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02-01-2008, 07:43 PM | #16 | |
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__________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue. | |
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02-01-2008, 07:46 PM | #17 |
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| OK.....I PROMISE THIS IS IT!!!! GOOD STANDARD OF THE BREED.....LOOK AT SOME PICTURES OF CHAMPIONS PEDIGREE RESEARCH....BIG BIG BIG.....KNOW THEM, LIVE THEM, LOVE THEM IF YOU DO THE RESEARCH ON THE PEDIGREE, YOU WILL GET MOST OF THE INFORMATION YOU NEED ON HEALTH THEN HAVE YOUR OWN SIRE/DAM MEDICALLY CHECKED STUDY GENETICS AND YOU WILL FIND A WORLD OF INFORMATION ok, i am going to bed. don't get me started on genetice, i am like the energizer bunny who keeps going and going and going etc.....
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02-01-2008, 07:57 PM | #18 |
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| LP is just so common in the yorkie breed it's really hard to determine if it's genetic or caused by injury...if it shows up early in a puppy then it would in my opinion be genetic but in an older dog past 1 or 2 it really could be from a slight injury as just running in the yard and injuring themselves and you wouldn't even know it....it's just so common in toy dogs....hard to determine on LP unless it shows up early... |
02-01-2008, 09:31 PM | #19 | |
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Why don't you have your vet contact Dr. Center for her updated protocol? Sharon A. Center, DVM, DiplACVIM Professor Department of Clinical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 Phone: 607-253-3060 (hospital, on page), ext. 3114 - biochemistry laboratory, audex recording) | |
02-01-2008, 09:45 PM | #20 |
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| Thank you for posting that Ladymom...So many vets are not familiar with her protocol, and she's the one that invented the bile acid test!!
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02-02-2008, 04:20 AM | #21 |
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| ladymom....this is off the subject i just wanted to let you know i looked at your site and love your bows. i did not see show bows (i might have missed it), do you have them?
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02-02-2008, 04:47 AM | #22 | |
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02-02-2008, 05:04 AM | #23 |
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| Bile Acid .blood panel and LP |
02-02-2008, 06:17 AM | #24 |
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02-02-2008, 06:35 AM | #25 | |
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My vet in Dallas works with Dr. Centers.....Bile acid testing prior to the age of 6 months will give you a false sense of security.....pups are going through many changes, especially with their diet...It has been discussed that yorkies are an anomily and the normal bile acid test performed can give you false readings...urinalysis testing can give you a better reading. OFAing is a great test for your breeders as well as CFA. But, having eyes tested for Progressive Retinal Atrophy, as well has hearing checked. Routine Smear for SDTs should be performed. However, it is best to do this on your females prior to breeding to insure they are free of any bacteria that could affect the pregnacy and puppies.
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02-02-2008, 07:41 AM | #26 |
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| This is great information but still confusing to me about the testing. I have been told that you should do a blood panel on your puppies at 12 weeks and if it shows any abnormalities then do a bile acid test.....is this wrong? When you get the LP's checked on puppies or adults are the vets doing x-ray or just feeling of the knee? |
02-02-2008, 07:54 AM | #27 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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On puppies false readings can occur on Bile Acids due to a multitude of reasons, but mostly food....Royal Canin food can produce a false reading. One must remember that pups do have lose knees during their growth period. Initial checking for LP is done manually....experienced vets can identify the grade....but, x-rays can better identify the problem in detail. One must remember LP can be produced by injury (allowing our pets to jump up and down) as well as genetically. LP is a problem that has existed in toy dogs due to their skeletal structure. Breeders are more cognisant of the problem and breeding more selectively to breed LP out. OFA testing is recommended at the age of 2.
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02-02-2008, 09:39 AM | #28 |
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| Mardelin......thanks for you input, it makes sense. |
02-02-2008, 10:26 AM | #29 | |
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"2: The best approach to avoid "over diagnosis" is to test bile acids in young dogs of highly affected breeds (at 4 mths of age) while they are clinically healthy and before they are adopted into pet homes. Highly affected breeds include: Yorkshire Terrier, Cairn Terrier, Maltese, Tibetan Spaniels as well as many other "terrier" type breeds (Miniature Schnauzer, Lhasa Apso, Shih Tzu, Dachshund, Bichon Frise, Pekingese, Toy and Miniature Poodles, and Havanese and others). Proactive assessment of serum bile acids will limit the awkward circumstance imposed when an MVD dog, with minor health issues, is suddenly recognized to have abnormal bile acids by a pet owner's veterinarian. This circumstance can lead to unnecessary diagnostic confusion and unwarranted invasive tests such as liver biopsy and portovenography. | |
02-02-2008, 10:38 AM | #30 |
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| I have also heard that vaccinations can cause false readings on the blood work. What are your thoughts on that....true or false? |
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