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02-24-2010, 02:08 PM | #1 |
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| ORCA kills trainer Many of you have probably heard about the orca killing a trainer at Sea World today. Well, this is the THIRD person this orca has killed!!! I think it is crazy to keep these magnificent creatures in large swimming pools for our own amusement. Sea World makes huge profits off these magnificent animals, so you know they don't want to discontinue keeping orcas. I believe these animals should only live in the wild. The mere act of keeping them in shallow, concrete swimming pools is cruel. I would love to see them let this one free. |
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02-24-2010, 02:39 PM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Alison, I agree. I've just been watching all of the coverage on CNN etcetera. I'm so sorry for this tragic loss of life, but there are so many stories of Orcas who cannot handle captivity, because they are not meant to. Orcas are extremely intelligent, social, and normally travel up to 100 miles a day. Imagine life in captivity for them. Read more about them here. A salient excerpt: "Killer whales in captivity often develop pathologies, such as the dorsal fin collapse seen in 60–90% of captive males. Captive killer whales have vastly reduced life expectancies, on average only living into their 20s. However, there are examples of killer whales living longer, including several over 30 years old, and two captive orcas (Corky II and Lolita) are in their mid-40s. In the wild, female killer whales can live to be 70–80 years old (though this is a rare occurrence, and 50 years is the average lifespan expected for those who survive infancy), while males can live to be 50–60 years old (while 30 years is the average). The captive environment usually bears little resemblance to their wild habitat, and the social groups that the killer whales are put into are foreign to those found in the wild. Critics claim that captive life is stressful due to small tanks, false social groupings and chemically altered water. Captive killer whales occasionally act aggressively towards themselves, their tankmates, or humans, which critics say is a result of stress. Unlike wild killer whales, captives have attacked and even killed people such as their handlers or pool intruders, with nearly two dozen attacks since the 1970s."
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02-24-2010, 03:03 PM | #3 |
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| I completely agree. I feel horrible for the 3 people who have lost their lives, but this guy deserves to be free. I really hope his fate is to be released. I'm a little confused why after the first incident they continued to keep him in captivity. It does sound like the second person killed was acting irresponsibly by trying to swim with him after the park was already closed...
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02-24-2010, 03:57 PM | #4 |
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| I am so afraid they will destroy him because of his past history...
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02-24-2010, 04:13 PM | #5 |
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| wow, what a horrible tragedy |
02-24-2010, 04:55 PM | #6 | |
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This particular whale, Tilikum, was captured and taken from the wild....he was not born in captivity. This is extremely traumatic for a creature, especially one with these kinds of social connections. In my opinion, he should either be set free - or moved to a whale sanctuary. Whale experts on the news today have stated they are not aware of any Orca attacks in the wild at all - only in captivity. Very sad all around. Sea World is describing the incident differently than the eyewitnesses, which is concerning.
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02-24-2010, 05:29 PM | #7 |
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| This is what I am afraid of too. It makes my stomach churn to think about it.
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02-24-2010, 05:34 PM | #8 |
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02-24-2010, 06:20 PM | #9 |
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| Wow this is just terrible ! I agree they should not keep these animals in captivity like that. I don't understand how this animal was at Sea World if he had been been the cause of three other deaths
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02-24-2010, 06:32 PM | #10 |
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| My thoughts exactly! I've been to SeaWorld many times and have always enjoyed their shows, but I don't think anyone realizes that these beautiful animals are really dangerous . . .maybe they need to stop the shows now or at least keep the trainers out of the pool . . .such a tragic loss for all involved and all who witnessed.
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02-24-2010, 07:50 PM | #11 |
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| I heard this on the news this evening and my heart aches for the family that lost a loved one. Whales are certainly more beautiful when viewed in their natural setting. What a tragedy for all.
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02-25-2010, 06:17 AM | #12 |
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| This whale wasn't being kept for shows. He was being kept solely for breeding. I know that stresses from captivity is the likely reason why this one has attacked, but why in the world would you want to breed an animal that has shown the wrong temperament for the life style he is intended for, regardless of the reason?
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02-25-2010, 06:27 AM | #13 |
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| Woogie Man, I think this poor orca probably has gone almost insane in this enclosure. I think any whale would! That's the reason why he did what he did. I am not sure it has anything to do with temperament.. There is now a ban on capturing these creatures in the wild and putting them in aquariums or theme parks in the U.S., so that is why they are now BREEDING them in captivity. I don't think this is any better. Sea World is unlikely to ever give up orcas voluntarily. They are BIG BUSINESS, and the Bottom Line is always protected. This whole story is so sad. I think it is interesting that Sea World is now saying this woman "Slipped and fell" into the enclosure, even though eyewitnesses are very clear on what they saw. I think Sea World is concerned about further restrictions with regard to these animals in captivity. Always looking out for the bottom line. |
02-25-2010, 06:42 AM | #14 | |
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It's just a sad case all around.
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