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Old 02-20-2013, 01:53 AM   #76
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Hi I just got A chorkie from a lady that didn't want it. He is 3 years old and is pretty big feels like it weighs 15 pounds. And she said he was lazy what I didn't like is that she said that give him cheese for a treat and I know not to give dogs Human food. What can I do?
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Rabies Vaccine if you love your Babies please don't give them anymore vaccinations. We lost our Baby girl because of a Rabies vaccination it destroyed her immune system and there is no cure she suffered so badly I still cry for her anything you put on them or give them can harm their immune system. Check the web for Rabies vaccine side effects you will be surprised as I was. Now I trust no vets and if I have to take one of my Babies in they don't leave my sight. They will never have anymore vaccinations and the Vet I use knows it.
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Rabies Vaccine if you love your Babies please don't give them anymore vaccinations. We lost our Baby girl because of a Rabies vaccination it destroyed her immune system and there is no cure she suffered so badly I still cry for her anything you put on them or give them can harm their immune system. Check the web for Rabies vaccine side effects you will be surprised as I was. Now I trust no vets and if I have to take one of my Babies in they don't leave my sight. They will never have anymore vaccinations and the Vet I use knows it.
We vaccinate our dogs every year, and the vaccine they get depends on what they got the year before. Some last 1 year, some 2 or 3 years.
They only get the rabies vaccine when we travel and it's last 3 years..
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If you feel comfortable doing this it is your choice I just won'y do it I listened to the veb and they killed her.
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I understand. The thing is that if we want to travel with them , they need the rabies vaccine.
My parents enjoy when I bring them with me and I feel comfortable having them with me instead of in a doggy-care.
Basically I don't have a choice..
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Default Aren't shots required in order to get their heart worm meds?

I'm so confused about shots. I have a four-year-old Yorkie named Izzy. I have changed vets three times due to the outrageous costs for her shots every six months. The newest vet only gives them once a year which helps, but the first time I took her in the vet gave her all the shots at once. Izzy was so sick. She didn't throw up, but she was so lethargic for two days that it scared me to death. I've never seen her that way.

I give her Triflexis for heart worms, which is prescription. Can anyone tell me what is the least amount of shots I can give Izzy to keep her protected and still be able to get her heart worm pills?
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After the initial puppy shots, they should not be vaccinated again for at least three years, and even then you can get the titer test to see if they are still protected. Yearly shots have contributed to major health problems.
Hi! I am wondering if you know how often you should do the titers to check for immunity? Every year?
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Every year is probably not necessary especially for Rabies where-in you have gotten the 3 year Rabies shot.
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Ok, thanks! I appreciate your response and advice!
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Titers are not a reliable test for immunity

How reliable are vaccine titers for dogs and cats for vaccine determination? | Web DVM

http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/vacc...vacctiters.htm
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I am afraid of vaccines and medications for my dogs as well as for myself. I do believe they can cause serious problems. What science needs to do now is measure the risks vs benefits to let us decide what is worth the risk. Meanwhile, we each have to do our own research and vaccinate and medicate according to risks in our own geographical regions and with lifestyle in mind. An indoor little dog that is exposed to nothing will likely not need much vaccination or preventive medication.
Veterinarians make a lot of money on vaccines and meds and many are surely influenced by the lure of profit margin. Be an informed consumer as your Yorkie's life may depend on it!
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I am afraid of vaccines and medications for my dogs as well as for myself. I do believe they can cause serious problems. What science needs to do now is measure the risks vs benefits to let us decide what is worth the risk. Meanwhile, we each have to do our own research and vaccinate and medicate according to risks in our own geographical regions and with lifestyle in mind. An indoor little dog that is exposed to nothing will likely not need much vaccination or preventive medication.
Veterinarians make a lot of money on vaccines and meds and many are surely influenced by the lure of profit margin. Be an informed consumer as your Yorkie's life may depend on it!



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An extract from your first link: highlights mine

The story, however, does not end there. [COLOR="Red"]I[COLOR="Yellow"]n the case of the three major and life threatening diseases vaccinated for in the canine core DHPP vaccine (distemper, parvo, and hepatitis), antibody titer does seem to correlate well with adequate protection against disease[/COLOR].[/COLOR] Therefore, if owners wish to rely on titers to decide on whether or not their dog needs to be vaccinated, if they do not mind the increased expense of titer testing rather than just vaccinating, I support that decision. Unfortunately, for rabies and the non-core vaccines, titers not proven even nearly as reliable in determining individual disease protection. This is why in the case of rabies, any jurisdiction I am aware of will not accept proof of protective rabies antibodies as an alternative to a rabies vaccine for dogs and cats. T[COLOR="Yellow"]hus in the case of canine non-core vaccines and rabies, I do not advise reliance on antibody titer testing…nor is it even legal to do so for rabies anyway.[/COLOR]

Well in order to import a dog to England you MUST TITER TEST for Rabies - a current Rabies certificate is not enough - something called an EXPORT TITER must be done. The cost is approx $500 Cdn. last time I checked. So Englands Import Authority relies upon Rabies Titers to prove immunity to Rabies.... As a sidebar a friend of mine got the Titering done as she wanted to bring her dog to England - he did not PASS the Titer test - another Rabies vaccine needed to be administered. She would never have known he was not protected as he was apparently resistant to the vaccine if she had not had to Titer to import her dog to England. The point is if RAbies titering is not indicative of protection why does England insist upon it for dog imports???

Also in the second link the author explains that DHPP titer testing is strongly correlated to immunity being present for these diseases - Rabies not so much and some other diseases which are non core vaccines such as LYMES
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The story, however, does not end there. [COLOR="Red"]I[COLOR="Yellow"]n the case of the three major and life threatening diseases vaccinated for in the canine core DHPP vaccine (distemper, parvo, and hepatitis), antibody titer does seem to correlate well with adequate protection against disease[/COLOR].[/COLOR] Therefore, if owners wish to rely on titers to decide on whether or not their dog needs to be vaccinated, if they do not mind the increased expense of titer testing rather than just vaccinating, I support that decision. Unfortunately, for rabies and the non-core vaccines, titers not proven even nearly as reliable in determining individual disease protection. This is why in the case of rabies, any jurisdiction I am aware of will not accept proof of protective rabies antibodies as an alternative to a rabies vaccine for dogs and cats. T[COLOR="Yellow"]hus in the case of canine non-core vaccines and rabies, I do not advise reliance on antibody titer testing…nor is it even legal to do so for rabies anyway.[/COLOR]

Well in order to import a dog to England you MUST TITER TEST for Rabies - a current Rabies certificate is not enough - something called an EXPORT TITER must be done. The cost is approx $500 Cdn. last time I checked. So Englands Import Authority relies upon Rabies Titers to prove immunity to Rabies.... As a sidebar a friend of mine got the Titering done as she wanted to bring her dog to England - he did not PASS the Titer test - another Rabies vaccine needed to be administered. She would never have known he was not protected as he was apparently resistant to the vaccine if she had not had to Titer to import her dog to England. The point is if RAbies titering is not indicative of protection why does England insist upon it for dog imports???

Also in the second link the author explains that DHPP titer testing is strongly correlated to immunity being present for these diseases - Rabies not so much and some other diseases which are non core vaccines such as LYMES
Thanks for attempting to clarify, Gemy. Appreciated. My vet, however, is Canadian and told me about rabies titre testing requirements as she and her dogs are classed as 'high risk'. However, she went into the science about why she thought they were ineffective but habitual 'safe guarding' or 'in case' which is a hard cycle to break, hence, the reason we all over vaccinate.

So, I do know where you're coming from but the science does not support titre testing past a few weeks/months of puppy inoculations. There are 2 strains of immunity, titres check one which is not valid after a certain point or too simplistic in isolation to confirm immunity.

I can get you some stuff to read, as I know you are very scientifically inclined, but for others, I would suggest speaking to the vet before relying on titre testing and the reasons behind them etc.
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I am afraid of vaccines and medications for my dogs as well as for myself. I do believe they can cause serious problems. What science needs to do now is measure the risks vs benefits to let us decide what is worth the risk. Meanwhile, we each have to do our own research and vaccinate and medicate according to risks in our own geographical regions and with lifestyle in mind. An indoor little dog that is exposed to nothing will likely not need much vaccination or preventive medication.
Veterinarians make a lot of money on vaccines and meds and many are surely influenced by the lure of profit margin. Be an informed consumer as your Yorkie's life may depend on it!
Agreed. I spoke to my vet about Leukaemia vaccinations for my cat, each year, who told me that a 'house' cat who never goes outside is not at risk. Would I like to schedule a Leukaemia booster for my cat that never goes outside?

OH YEAH, Sure!!! thanks!

People really do have to do research or rely on the vet who, at worst, over vaccinates. Under vaccination or not vaccinating at all can be deadly. Over vaccinating can cause issues but, like you say, weigh the pros and cons and balance these with knowledge or lack thereof for a full picture.
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