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04-11-2017, 04:35 AM | #1 |
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| Pet Fooled. Great documentary for all pet owners If you haven't seen it yet, check out Pet Fooled. It's on Netflix worldwide and you can also rent it for 99c on iTunes. It gives some insight into our pets diet and the pet food industry for those out there curious to learn more and feed the best diet they can for their pets and pet health. https://m.facebook.com/Pet-Fooled-1793771757524419/ Pet Fooled – Truth about Pet Food |
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04-11-2017, 10:15 AM | #2 | |
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Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It's good to know what kinds of things are out there, for better or worse. | |
04-11-2017, 01:26 PM | #3 |
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| I won't waste my time with. There is a lot of misinformation in it. I feel bad that it's going to poison other people's minds.
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04-11-2017, 04:05 PM | #4 |
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| What they are bringing to light is that the ingredients in major dog foods are not great sources of nutrition for our pets, with the help of great marketing, we have been convinced to feed our dogs food containing cheap filler that has been topped up with vitamins and minerals to pass AAFCO feed requirements. And also showing that the large pet food companies are not willing to be transparent about this. The goal is to show that animals survive on these foods but don't thrive and it's about showing people they don't need to be afraid to feed whole raw foods to their pets. There is a lot of wonderful information and it would be a shame if people didn't take an hour out of their day just to watch it, then form their own opinions at the end. It's wonderful to see that studies are now being done all over the world to show us this |
04-11-2017, 06:38 PM | #5 | |
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04-12-2017, 02:17 AM | #6 | ||
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Who funded/made the movie, I wonder...? That can tell you a lot too. Quote:
Not surprised one bit that a vet tech instructor is teaching one side to the story about raw . Unfortunate (and naive, in this day and age). Save
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04-12-2017, 04:13 AM | #7 |
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| The world would be a boring place if we all had the same opinions on every topic. What it shows is plant is being used as protein and we all know dogs are carnivores and that plant protein is cheap. Tufty has been raw fed from the age of 11 weeks and Teegy since 2 1/2 years old. I walked in with an open mind hoping I was going to find something that Teegy could thrive on after pancreatitis and he's soared. When I throw down a frozen lamb neck they get their whole bodies involved, it's like they are leaving a puzzle together and they'll figure out and enjoy getting that meat in their belly. Kohl Harrington wrote and directed it and was produced by Michael Fossat and sponsored by the independent documentary fund. Last edited by Teegy; 04-12-2017 at 04:15 AM. |
04-12-2017, 07:42 AM | #8 |
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| The classification of dogs as carnivores or omnivores is controversial, but it is clearly the case that dogs will thrive on a mixed diet derived from animal and plant sources, so they are not obligate carnivores. I'm not going to argue this any further, but I will provide a link to a good article that discusses this: https://thesciencedog.wordpress.com/...nivores-right/ With respect to feeding raw, I'm sure that there are good commercial sources of raw foods, and that a conscientious dog owner can create a healthy raw food diet. However, here is a link to a Skeptvet article that discusses the dangers of raw feeding with links to many additional articles pointing out the dangers as well: Raw Diets for Pets | The SkeptVet |
04-12-2017, 07:51 AM | #9 | |
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More Evidence of the Risk of Infectious Diseases Associated with Raw Pet Foods | The SkeptVet Evidence Update-Review of Risks and Benefits of Raw Meat Diets for Dogs and Cats | The SkeptVet | |
04-12-2017, 07:58 AM | #10 |
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| A little more information from one of the cited scientific studies (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4152787/) : "In recent years, various groups have advocated feeding raw food diets to companion animals. This practice poses health risks to both animals and owners. A limited study, completed in Canada, showed that dogs fed a BARF (bones and raw food) diet were more likely to shed Salmonella in their stool than dogs fed commercial diets (Joffe and Schlesinger, 2002). There is an increasing trend of feeding raw meat diets in the United States, and these raw diets pose a risk to pet owners due to an increased risk of bacterial contamination from handling these products (Freeman and Michel, 2001). The results from our investigation show that these raw pet food products can contain pathogenic bacteria. In 2011, a study in California evaluated raw horsemeat diets in zoo settings and screened for Salmonella and E. coli, but not Listeria (Singleton et al., 2012). This study found one sample positive for Salmonella out of 54 samples that were screened using a sandwich ELISA test. The data show fewer positives than previous studies from zoos, which reported up to 60% positive findings for raw diets (Richter and al-Sheddy, 1990; Singleton et al., 2012). The Singleton study tested a small number of samples (54) and did not use standard microbial culture methods, which may have resulted in underreporting of positives from the raw meat diet. Our study used standard culture methods, tested more samples, and screened for a wider range of bacteria, including Listeria. We found that the raw pet food products could be contaminated with either Salmonella, Listeria monocytogenes, or both pathogens." This is why most vets don't recommend raw diets, and why the dangers of raw diets are taught in vet med schools. Not to say it can't be done, but the dangers are real. |
04-12-2017, 08:03 AM | #11 |
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| I love how they keep saying it's all anecdotal about raw feeding then they tell us they poison our pets isn't that a complete contradiction. In one sentence it's "no studies done to prove they are better than....". Then it's "they are full of evil poisonous germs and we will all die if we feed them" |
04-12-2017, 10:12 AM | #12 | |
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04-12-2017, 10:24 AM | #13 | |
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04-12-2017, 10:27 AM | #14 | |
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04-12-2017, 05:23 PM | #15 |
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| I watched it. It was definitely biased. I think it's an okay watch for an average pet owner who just walks into a grocery store and picks out a pretty bag of food. Most people literally have never even looked at the back of the bag or an ingredient list or find out how/where their dogs food is made. I know sooo many people who truly believe they are feeding their dog the best by feeding Beneful because "it's colorful and looks like it has real veggies in it!" Sooo for that, I think it's good to at least get people *thinking*. But I really hated the pushy raw feeding in it. I wish they would've spoken of homecooking more, to be honest, because I sort of feel like this is likely the healthiest option for our pets if done correctly. Also, they did not touch on properly balancing raw. Raw can be fantastic for some dogs but there is a balancing act to it and it has to be done properly or you could have a very sick dog. I feel like they kind of... left that out. It wasn't a bad doc but I think it should have been more well rounded.
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