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07-29-2014, 06:09 PM | #1 |
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| Feeding Raw I'm really interested in feeding raw but I don't know anything about it. What, when, how? Can you do half and half is it better all or nothing? Do you feed fruits and veggies too? What about treats? At what age do you start? |
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07-29-2014, 06:58 PM | #2 |
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| I would not do it with a puppy or my dog. I would also look at the risks. There are vet associations very much against it. https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Pag...Dog-Diets.aspx. There are some very serious risks and scary stories I have heard so it's very important to make sure you do all your research. I would wait until your pup becomes an adult and then home cook using the balance it supplement. Balanceit.com and petdiets.com are two great sites to check out. With home cooking you kill all the gross germs but your dog is still getting awesome healthy fresh food. You just have to make sure your using a recipe a vet nutritionist has made like on the two sites I suggested and you have to make sure to use the supplement. It's really not hard you can make several weeks worth at one time.
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07-30-2014, 05:26 AM | #3 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I've been feeding raw for about 6 years now and really love it. I use the pre-made raw by Primal, or Nature's Variety. Do you want to feed pre-made or are you talking Prey Model where you feed bones w/ the meat still on them? Yes, you can feed raw and non-raw together, the stomach does not know the difference...it merely knows if something is a fat, carb, protein, or toxin etcetera. Many raw feeders start their dogs as puppies - so when you start is really up to you and what you feel comfortable with. My Wylie was about 2 yrs old when he started, Marcel was 10 mths old, and then when we got Pfeiffer she started raw when she was about 14 weeks old. For treats, I give different chews like Beams from Honest Kitchen, Munchy Stix, CET chews, and RMBs (raw meaty bones).
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07-30-2014, 08:44 AM | #4 |
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| I feed Primal, Stella & Chewy's (both frozen & freeze dried versions). They eat every meal like it was their 1st time trying it, totally love it! For age, the store bought premade raw foods are all nutritionally balanced for all ages, except for the 'supplemental feeding' products. For treats, they get ZiwiPeak (lamb), sometimes different proteins like fresh poached wild salmon or boiled chicken, some fruits & veggies if I happen to have it. For my guys, they didn't do well when I mixed kibble & raw food (but every dog is different). They got digestive issues, like gas & loose stool. Here's an excellent video by Dr. Becker (3 part video), she talks about the "digestive confusion" @ 2:30
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07-30-2014, 08:47 AM | #5 |
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| Here's part 1 & 2. Happy viewing
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07-30-2014, 09:08 AM | #6 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Thanks for posting these videos...I'm only listening to the 1st one so far. Are these good "intro" videos to raw? If yes, I think I should add them to the raw feeding thread in the Library...what is your opinion/synopsis of them? I really like her so far . I don't really agree w/ her as far as "digestive confusion" (not a real term we ever use in the medical field) where she says the gut can get confused by feeding a protein (raw) w/ a starch (kibble), bc the stomach can definitely digest both just fine at the same time...it just uptakes different chemicals to digest each one. I'd say any upset is more due to being sensitive to an individual ingredient and/or a sensitive tummy in general in an individual dog. She's a really good speaker, btw . I like that she supports raw. Does she do a website or just the videos?
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07-30-2014, 09:50 AM | #7 | |
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Why Foxtails Are So Dangerous to Pets I agree with you about digestive confusion. The largest portion of Katie's diet is from home cooking. Because she won't eat in the morning before I go to work, I leave out a little kibble topped with a little Stella and Chewy's, Primal, or Orijen dehydrated frozen raw (dry). It doesn't upset Katie's stomach.
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07-30-2014, 10:11 AM | #8 |
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| I think Dr. Becker's videos & articles are very informative & educational. She believes that raw food is a biologically appropriate food for felines & canines. She also advocates minimal vaccines & going the holistic route when it comes to the well being of pets. As for Ann's questions whether if I think it's a good video for 'intro' for raw food. I do not know. I only feed premade raw & have little to no experience feeding a BARF or PMR diet. But I do think Dr. Becker explains in detail how the species appropriate diet works, handling of raw food, the safety issues & controversial myths of feeding raw food in her videos. There's many people that feed kibble topped w/freeze dried raw & their pups do perfectly on it. Some feed kibble for 1 meal & raw for the other, some mix, some don't. I think it all depends on how your individual dog does on the diet.
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07-31-2014, 05:50 AM | #9 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
And those darn foxtails....geesh I despise those things !
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07-31-2014, 08:28 AM | #10 |
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| I have fed raw since a puppy, most raw feeding breeders wean the pups around 4-8 weeks. I can certainly provide you with a wealth of information regarding feeding your dog raw |
07-31-2014, 08:35 AM | #11 | |
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How is very simple and it's your choice, you can throw out the kibble and feed cooked organic chicken for a week with some yoghurt and each day add a little ground bone and organ in premixed raw and within a week you will have your dog on raw completely. I would do this with the help of a probiotioc and digestive enzyme to help the flora and fauna in their digestive system with the change. You could go cold turkey and put the dog straight onto a ground premixed raw chicken, then slowly introduce your dog to a bone in chicken breast once you see they are taking to it. Lew Olson PHD is a natural nutritionist and her book is fantastic. I recommend reading it. Amazon She also worked to develop products specifically for dogs for nutritional needs and digestion and has a great site. You can always PM me any questions you have | |
07-31-2014, 08:37 AM | #12 | |
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I'm gonnae watch them too and give you my feedback | |
07-31-2014, 08:38 AM | #13 | |
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07-31-2014, 09:04 AM | #14 |
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| Yep great information in these videos. Love Dr. Becker |
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