Breeder vs Adopting?

[matese]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Oh. lol Sorry.

Usually I look for healthy, sturdy, etc. but I wasn't sure if her disease was bad enough.

To be honest, I'm sort of a couch potato, but I do enjoy short walks, and occasional time outdoors(hiking, fishing, easy paced stuff).

I thought of a small breed because I was reading that walking them for a few short walks 2x daily(30min - 1 hour per walk) + playing with them indoors and backyard rigorously would be enough to satisfy them.

Sometimes I like going for 1 and half or 2-3 hours but it's not as common. It's why I wanted to avoid -other- terriers like the notorious jack russel...

I would enjoy a bulldog but they're neither foofy, and they're exercise level is way too low. I.e. their form of exercise is walking from the couch to the fridge from what I read(well not that literal but you get what I mean).


To be honest, I wanted a dog that would be close to me a lot, would enjoy short walks and some play. Though cuddling is fine. Non-slobbery (like not a basset hound- although they are beautiful they drool like crazy and it's a bit off putting). Something that's just happy go lucky and a bit mellow. That's how my aunts dog was. It was like that since it was a puppy, she got it from some breeder after much research.

Her dog much like my mothers dog followed her everywhere.

The only reason I didn't want to go for another cockapoo(what my mother has) is that after 3 days of bathing she reeks of this strange smell(I sadly have sensory issues).

I found out that it's probably the cocker spaniel in her, because cocker spaniels tend to produce more skin oils and that it can smell weird after some time.

That, and I've never had that issue with any other dog before-- even that wire haired fox terrier didn't smell weird.

But when you said I should go for something sturdy and healthy, I kind of agree because my brother has a daughter and she is rather young (about a year or two) and while they wont come into contact- I'd rather be careful in both cases. We only see them 2x a month though.


She had another yorkie before that apparently and the dog was like hers now. But it may have just taken cues from her. Heard that dogs sometimes take after(copy- behaviorally) their owners.


So would it be prudent to compare a yorkie with say a fox terrier or worse... a jack russel? I've seen my neighbors jack(he has 2) and they're rather obnoxious and hyper... Yipping, running around, "popcorning", etc without ceasing-- even after I go back inside for sometime. His dogs also bark at night, and sometimes howl.

This is rather heart breaking as yorkies are rather beautiful.

JR are super hyper, my neighbor had one OMG that dog was on speed 24/7 lol.

Yorkies are a beautiful breed and very smart, they are like Velcro, they must have their human in their sight at all times, including the bath room lol. They are by no means docile, timid or submissive. All yorkies although have the same traits, they all have different personalities. Owning a yorkie is like having a toddle for it's life time,Yorkies are very child like, charming, entertaining, mischief makers lol. They can be very stubborn at times and before you know it, you are owned by a yorkie.

You cannot base a yorkie on the two your aunt had. I suggest you do a lot of reading on the breed, and a lot of reading on terriers to see if any terrier would be right for you.

Getting a yorkie from a rescue, an older one, say 2 or 3 years old chances are they could be more calmer. I read your concerns about rescues, as I stated it's a crap shoot. Like a box of chocolates ya never know what you're gonna get.

My perfect boy had some issues when I got him, I worked with him, trained him to be what I expected out of him, he was eager to please and learned fast, he did not come from an abusive owner, he was loved much and spoiled rotten lol.

Take your time, even tho it's your mothers vet, you can still call them and ask about shelters, rescues.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by matese

JR are super hyper, my neighbor had one OMG that dog was on speed 24/7 lol.

Yorkies are a beautiful breed and very smart, they are like Velcro, they must have their human in their sight at all times, including the bath room lol. They are by no means docile, timid or submissive. All yorkies although have the same traits, they all have different personalities. Owning a yorkie is like having a toddle for it's life time,Yorkies are very child like, charming, entertaining, mischief makers lol. They can be very stubborn at times and before you know it, you are owned by a yorkie.

You cannot base a yorkie on the two your aunt had. I suggest you do a lot of reading on the breed, and a lot of reading on terriers to see if any terrier would be right for you.

Getting a yorkie from a rescue, an older one, say 2 or 3 years old chances are they could be more calmer. I read your concerns about rescues, as I stated it's a crap shoot. Like a box of chocolates ya never know what you're gonna get.

My perfect boy had some issues when I got him, I worked with him, trained him to be what I expected out of him, he was eager to please and learned fast, he did not come from an abusive owner, he was loved much and spoiled rotten lol.

Take your time, even tho it's your mothers vet, you can still call them and ask about shelters, rescues.

Like I am not asking for a dog that wont have any spunk to it. It's a dog, of course it'll have spunk. A dog without spunk is not a dog imho. But by spunk I mean, dominant when it has to be.

Like what I don't want is me just trying to change its water bowl and it tries to bite me. lol or if I am playing with it and throwing toys(frisbees and rubber bones) I dont want him to get aggressive when he brings it. We had a short problem with our dog when she was young but she passed it within a month...

Though that other dog I had was pretty bad- it wouldn't get over that.


Or like if I am sitting down, and the more submissive dog comes by my legs(she always does that) I don't want them to fight-- by this I mean... I dont want the dog I brought to instigate.

I just dont want to see bullying or aggression like that. Submissive is kind of a clear cut to avoid that.

There are other concerns like it randomly marking territory- more so than other dog breeds, or chewing up the sofa...

This sofa kind of doesnt matter as we're getting rid of it(very old).

But the new one, we want to pad so that we can keep it safe until its trained.

What do you mean by a kid? Kids are highly destructive.. at least the ones I've seen are-- without reason.

I know a dog is unpredictable and stuff, but I was hoping that once it's trained it stays trained. Like our current.

[matese]

If you're concerned about marking then get a female.

My boy was neutered about 8 months old, he was house broken when I got him. He came with a bag of belongings, in that bag was a pee pad so I knew he used them. I do have a pad down for him ALL THE TIME, in 3 years he used it once. He prefers to make out doors. He squats, no leg hiking. If I walk him he will hike his leg, in the yard he does not. That is why he is PERFECT for me lol.

I have only had female dogs, I raised them from 8 weeks old. I had a pack of 3, all 3 years apart. My 3rd baby was bossy, and aggressive towards my 2 older girls, she wanted to be # 1. She was my smallest weighing in at 9 pounds as an adult, the 2 older ones were 13 pounds,very sweet passive girls. The baby was very dominant, I was able to train the aggressiveness and dominance out of her, and teach her I WAS THE PACK LEADER, not HER lol. But she was a baby, not a rescue, I trained her not someone else.

In most rescues they do allow a meet and greet where you can see if both dogs are friendly towards each other. But, that is not to say they will stay friendly once they share the same roof, toys, yard, humans. There is NO guarantee they will always get along, that also holds true if you buy a baby, raise it yourself, that baby can be aggressive and dominant towards the other dog.

Older dogs (over 1 yo old) usually do not chew furniture, chewing is usually done when a baby is teething. That has been my experience in raising 8 puppies.

I can understand all your concerns in adopting a rescue, it's a chance you take in adopting and having another dog in the same house. There is no guarantee you will get exactly what you want, a perfect, well mannered, well adjusted, non aggressive, non dominant dog.

You may be better off getting a female puppy, go through the house training, teething stage, raise her the they you want her to be, there is more of a guarantee she will be more of what you want.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by matese

If you're concerned about marking then get a female.

My boy was neutered about 8 months old, he was house broken when I got him. He came with a bag of belongings, in that bag was a pee pad so I knew he used them. I do have a pad down for him ALL THE TIME, in 3 years he used it once. He prefers to make out doors. He squats, no leg hiking. If I walk him he will hike his leg, in the yard he does not. That is why he is PERFECT for me lol.

I have only had female dogs, I raised them from 8 weeks old. I had a pack of 3, all 3 years apart. My 3rd baby was bossy, and aggressive towards my 2 older girls, she wanted to be # 1. She was my smallest weighing in at 9 pounds as an adult, the 2 older ones were 13 pounds,very sweet passive girls. The baby was very dominant, I was able to train the aggressiveness and dominance out of her, and teach her I WAS THE PACK LEADER, not HER lol. But she was a baby, not a rescue, I trained her not someone else.

In most rescues they do allow a meet and greet where you can see if both dogs are friendly towards each other. But, that is not to say they will stay friendly once they share the same roof, toys, yard, humans. There is NO guarantee they will always get along, that also holds true if you buy a baby, raise it yourself, that baby can be aggressive and dominant towards the other dog.

Older dogs (over 1 yo old) usually do not chew furniture, chewing is usually done when a baby is teething. That has been my experience in raising 8 puppies.

I can understand all your concerns in adopting a rescue, it's a chance you take in adopting and having another dog in the same house. There is no guarantee you will get exactly what you want, a perfect, well mannered, well adjusted, non aggressive, non dominant dog.

You may be better off getting a female puppy, go through the house training, teething stage, raise her the they you want her to be, there is more of a guarantee she will be more of what you want.

Yeah i was thinking of a female puppy. Its back to the drawing board as i am not sure what other breeds to go with as well.

I may need to keep them separate regardless and only together with supervision

[ChibiLuv]

Please adopt, there are many cute awesome dogs that need homes. I adopted both my yorkies as puppies as was able to train them and work with them just as if I'd bought them. My older dog is a yorkie/schnauzer mix and is supper cuddly and calm but can be playful and likes to go for walks, my girl is 100% yorkie and the most energetic, mischievous, loud, stubborn little dog I've ever met. You may be better off with a mix. If you adopt from a rescue often they are fostered and you can get an idea of their personality so you have a better chance of getting what your looking for. Good luck!

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by ChibiLuv

Please adopt, there are many cute awesome dogs that need homes. I adopted both my yorkies as puppies as was able to train them and work with them just as if I'd bought them. My older dog is a yorkie/schnauzer mix and is supper cuddly and calm but can be playful and likes to go for walks, my girl is 100% yorkie and the most energetic, mischievous, loud, stubborn little dog I've ever met. You may be better off with a mix. If you adopt from a rescue often they are fostered and you can get an idea of their personality so you have a better chance of getting what your looking for. Good luck!

Hello, I am actually considering strongly on that.. but so far I have sent 2 emails (inquiries) to separate associations and not been replied to yet.

But it's to be expected.


I did look on the ones website, it didn't seem that privacy invasive... Did announce that potential owners home would be inspected. Sounds fine, but it makes me a tad nervous. Not sure how to make things perfect in their eyes is what I mean.

I am thinking of going to local shelters, because I've been looking at rescues, which the dogs are in foster homes like that dog I showed earlier.. and I don't think they even have much info on her... So I was thinking maybe just directly to a shelter.

[FlyingNimbus]

Read through the link

BHSApp

It's an application form... some questions are rather too invasive and quite frankly a bit cringe worthy on some...

[TxVicki]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Read through the link

BHSApp

It's an application form... some questions are rather too invasive and quite frankly a bit cringe worthy on some...

Nothing wrong with this application form at all. All questions seem OK to me. The ONLY one I find that is none of their business is asking what the value of your home is. The value of home has nothing to do with adopting a pet in my opinion.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by TxVicki

Nothing wrong with this application form at all. All questions seem OK to me. The ONLY one I find that is none of their business is asking what the value of your home is. The value of home has nothing to do with adopting a pet in my opinion.

That, and the income one... Could be more subtle than that... besides you can be a bit on the poor side but still be able to afford a dog, its care and your own care.... Just cant be frivolous spender for those.

I found this dog but I cant tell what kind of mix it is....


Harrison, NY - Yorkie, Yorkshire Terrier Mix. Meet Elena a Dog for Adoption.

Does look a bit like a yorkie mixed with a maltese or a poodle or something like that.


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Ultimately I may just go to a pound because the dogs there would be in immediate danger.. I actually sympathize a bit with kill shelter workers... I think the blame shouldn't be placed on them, but the specific dog owners who just give up their dogs whenever for whatever dumb reasons...

Too bad you cant tell the actual personality of a dog in a pound.... due to the stress they're in.

[FlyingNimbus]

I sent an email with questions regarding the dog-- and they told me that first I have to fill out the form... but the description isn't that descriptive and to be honest it seems more counterproductive to fill out an adoption form only to later on find out that the dog isnt what you want in a dog(because lack of information) and decide not to adopt it after all.. which means the time you filled the application, the time for them to process it... was a waste of time (for both).

I just dont understand that or if i should proceed or just skip.

[Rachael1983]

You also have the option to ask for an older dog from a breeder if you want a dog that may already be pad trained or you want to know what you're getting already.

I made the choice to go the breeder route for several reasons (health, I had a small child so history is important, and lifetime support). I commend those who choose to adopt, however I knew that it wasn't a option for me.

If you're filling out applications, and you're denied it can be heartbreaking however just know that that's not your fault. You can provide a great home but that may not have been the dog that was intended for you. Things happen for a reason and season.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Rachael1983

You also have the option to ask for an older dog from a breeder if you want a dog that may already be pad trained or you want to know what you're getting already.

I made the choice to go the breeder route for several reasons (health, I had a small child so history is important, and lifetime support). I commend those who choose to adopt, however I knew that it wasn't a option for me.

If you're filling out applications, and you're denied it can be heartbreaking however just know that that's not your fault. You can provide a great home but that may not have been the dog that was intended for you. Things happen for a reason and season.

I actually wanted to go through a breeder but then at the same time I feel bad for shelter dogs.

As for being denied- I haven't been denied as I haven't even made an application yet....

But you can denied for just about something insignificant and dumb.


Being denied for not having a fenced yard(or a yard for that matter) is stupid unless the dog happens to be something like those alaskan huskies or alaskan malamutes, or something like a jack russel (i.e. not apartment dogs)

But luckily I don't have that problem since we live in a house in the suburbs(soon to move somewhere out in the country-- which is also why we havent done anything as we wanted to get settled in first before going at it-- doubt it'd be good on a dog to go through moving when they just first met us).

Still I was planning on owning a dog that is able to live in an apartment happily- because you never know where life will take you and someday you may end up indeed in an apartment even if temporarily.

Like we had hurricane sandy hit us hard a few years ago and peoples houses were completely devastated, some where probably able to live in an another house- while typically people probably moved into apartments.

So those who had a large and active breed mostlikely had to rehome their pets.

What I want is a contingency plan as well. For me a dog that is calm, non-aggressive, kid-tolerant, dog/cat/animal tolerant(i.e. low prey drive), friendly, and such would be easily accepted into an apartment. Should I ever need to move out.

That is why I am taking my time and asking multiple questions. If rescues, or shelters don't want to answer my questions or don't even respond then the next step is avoid adoption all together because clearly it isn't going to work out if I can't know anything about the dog- or at least their personality.

I still have hope adoption can be viable and I could give one a good and happy home.