Yorkie Puppy for X-Mas

[TysonMyBoy]

This is going to be long....I'll start with some history, my story, and finally my questions.

I read and have learned quite a lot from this forum for the last year or so. I rarely post but..... I have two precious yorkies, Rin-5 year old female and Tyson-4 year old male. Both of my dogs are potty pad trained and rarely have accidents. They are both healthy and have only required basic vet care. Just wait....that info will be part of my question!

I got the craziest gift of a new yorkie puppy for Christmas this year from my sister-in law The puppy was 8 weeks old the day before Christmas. WHO GIVES A PUPPY FOR CHRISTMAS WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING?!! I did not know how to say "no thank you" and make her take it back. I should have, especially considering I KNOW I can't afford to vet and groom a third dog. Well, I have figured this part out....I can enroll this puppy (and possibly the other two) in a pet health insurance plan and sort of spread out the yearly expenses. Also, my adult daughter has agreed to help with expenses. (She's already in love with the puppy, but who doesn't love a puppy). I just pray to God he is generally healthy. However, I suspect he came from a BYB. I was able to meet the "breeder" but I don't have much faith in her standards. The puppy did come with a health guarantee but it seemed rather limited to me.....

With all that being said, I do have a couple of questions. Rin and Tyson are EXTREMELY unhappy with this new addition. I hope they all adjust......

Rin and Tyson have lost all sense of thier potty training. Rin actually squatted on the bathroom rug right in front of me and Tyson is peeing everywhere. Almost like marking, but he is neutered and these are full on pees, not just random squirts. Are they doing this because I set up the x-pen in their potty area? Would they do better if the x pen was located elsewhere? Also, Rin and Tyson have snapped and growled at the puppy. Do I let them work out the pecking order on thier own or is there some way I can assist?

Any help would be appreciated. Sorry the post is so long.

[Deb1]

If someone gave me a yorkie puppy, I would be crazy in love! But every one is different with different situations! No suggestions......just sorry you are not happy with your newest addition!

[Kataliadre]

Originally Posted by TysonMyBoy

This is going to be long....I'll start with some history, my story, and finally my questions.

I read and have learned quite a lot from this forum for the last year or so. I rarely post but..... I have two precious yorkies, Rin-5 year old female and Tyson-4 year old male. Both of my dogs are potty pad trained and rarely have accidents. They are both healthy and have only required basic vet care. Just wait....that info will be part of my question!

I got the craziest gift of a new yorkie puppy for Christmas this year from my sister-in law The puppy was 8 weeks old the day before Christmas. WHO GIVES A PUPPY FOR CHRISTMAS WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING?!! I did not know how to say "no thank you" and make her take it back. I should have, especially considering I KNOW I can't afford to vet and groom a third dog. Well, I have figured this part out....I can enroll this puppy (and possibly the other two) in a pet health insurance plan and sort of spread out the yearly expenses. Also, my adult daughter has agreed to help with expenses. (She's already in love with the puppy, but who doesn't love a puppy). I just pray to God he is generally healthy. However, I suspect he came from a BYB. I was able to meet the "breeder" but I don't have much faith in her standards. The puppy did come with a health guarantee but it seemed rather limited to me.....

With all that being said, I do have a couple of questions. Rin and Tyson are EXTREMELY unhappy with this new addition. I hope they all adjust......

Rin and Tyson have lost all sense of thier potty training. Rin actually squatted on the bathroom rug right in front of me and Tyson is peeing everywhere. Almost like marking, but he is neutered and these are full on pees, not just random squirts. Are they doing this because I set up the x-pen in their potty area? Would they do better if the x pen was located elsewhere? Also, Rin and Tyson have snapped and growled at the puppy. Do I let them work out the pecking order on thier own or is there some way I can assist?

Any help would be appreciated. Sorry the post is so long.

I agree with Deb1, I would be over the moon! But you make valid points and it sounds like you had good reasons for not wanting a 3rd puppy.

First, I have no idea about the potty training. That hasn't happened with me so I have no advice to offer there. But I do have experience with my 1st yorkie not wanting to accept my 2nd yorkie into the house. We do rescue puppies now and then and I think he thought she would leave eventually as well. Once he figured out she was staying he got used to her. It took quite a while though. Now they're playmates and get along pretty well, although I call him a grumpy old man bc he will snap at her when he's done playing and she wants to keep going.

The advice I got here was to always give him preferential treatment until he settled down. Feed him first, pet him first, etc. Give them a few weeks and I think they will come around!

[Lovetodream88]

Honestly if you don't think you can afford it I would give it back. I can tell you the pup is definitely from a bad breeder if it was sold to be given as a gift and by the fact it was taken away from its mom before 12 weeks so I'm sure this breeder did not do any health or genetic testing and probably doesn't know the history of there lines so even if this puppy seems healthy now it might not be in the future and it might not be until 2 years old when it starts showing problems. Luxatting Patella seems to be running high these days and that can be around $3,000 a knee for surgery. Also the first year of a puppies life is very expensive all the shots and all the necessary things to buy that it will need plus getting the pup fixed.

[Oddsock]

I'm no expert, we've had dogs all our lives and introduced new pups 4 or 5 times over those years. So I'll let you know what worked for us, but must say this pup hubby and son bought me this Christmas is the first pup I've introduced to a YORKIE (10 month old Caleb). ..and Yorkies are different than the big dogs we've always had. More easily offended, hurt, or vocal about how they feel etc.

I'd move the ex pen as you stated it's where your dogs pee pad were. Your dogs lives (and yours for a short while) have been turned upside down. So don't change too many things in their life, that don't need to be changed.
Keep their pee pads, where they've always been.
Pet them first.
Feed them first.
Greet them first.
Give them extra attention, and time without her.
If they will let you, in time hold her on your lap, and them at the same time, giving them their own space as you do so.

Your sister in law needs to be talked with, she may do this again to you or someone else. I'd worry about this pups background. (my family talked with me first, and our new pup is from the same breeder of Caleb, whom I trust) Boy what a situation you've been put in. Is this your brothers wife? Can you talk to him about it, so that no one else is put in this situation.

Any pic's of the pup? Hope he soon fits in and the others grow to love him.......is it a him? A female might be accepted better.

[MarkFromSea]

Ouch.... no advice except, she shouldn't have given you a puppy. That's a lot of work and responsibility.... it's sorta like giving a person a human baby to care for.

[Kaitlynx89]

She should of talked to you first before giving you a puppy especially since you have 2 others and you don't know the background on the parents.

[Maximo]

I agree with Oddsock:

Move the puppy's xpen far away from your dogs' piddle pad.

Relative to relations between the puppy and the older dogs, let them work it out on their own -- unless things look dangerous.

Greet, pet, and do everything for the older dogs first. Keep their routine as normal as possible and lavish them with the same praise/affection that the puppy is getting.

Training helped bring my two boys together. Doing simple tricks for treats. We also played fetch and walked together. You will have to wait on the walking until the pup is old enough.

I also agree that you should try to talk to your SIL about giving pets as gifts. Tell her that you appreciate where her heart was, but pets are a big responsibility financially and in terms of time. Not everyone is prepared for this responsibility. Also, where they come from is important.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I agree with Oddsock:

Move the puppy's xpen far away from your dogs' piddle pad.

Relative to relations between the puppy and the older dogs, let them work it out on their own -- unless things look dangerous.

Greet, pet, and do everything for the older dogs first. Keep their routine as normal as possible and lavish them with the same praise/affection that the puppy is getting.

Training helped bring my two boys together. Doing simple tricks for treats. We also played fetch and walked together. You will have to wait on the walking until the pup is old enough.

I also agree that you should try to talk to your SIL about giving pets as gifts. Tell her that you appreciate where her heart was, but pets are a big responsibility financially and in terms of time. Not everyone is prepared for this responsibility. Also, where they come from is important.

^^I agree with Maximo. I would talk to your SIL and tell her how absolutely in love you and your family are with the new puppy, just a heads up next time would be greatly appreciated.

I understand what you were trying to say. It's not that you're unhappy with the puppy, and I'll be taking your own words op, who doesn't love a puppy?!?! But the fact of the matter is you have your life under control with the 2 pups. You had a budget worked out for them, you had had a routine, you knew where to take them for long trips, or who to leave them with, etc etc etc. Unless you spent the last 2 months dropping hints and telling everyone and their mom that all you wanted for Christmas is a new puppy, then yes, a puppy can be inconvenient.

Anyway, on to your questions. To me it does sound like your boy dog is marking, neutered or not, they are capable of marking, the instinct is still there, just the overall drive to do it is not. That is unless provoked, like say having an intruder in the house. (Ie new puppy) I have heard that changes in their routine can cause some pups to regress on their training. Good luck with your new pack member! I'm sure once the dust settles, everything will go back to normal, and you can start enjoying your new surprise addition to the family.

[TysonMyBoy]

THanks for the advice everyone! Don't worry, the puppy is definitely last when it comes to attention and feeding time...right now he is not allowed in my bedroom because Tyson gets really grumpy, showing his teeth and everything. Bless his heart...

My daughter still lives at home and she has taken over most of the care, but she does go to college and works part time. The puppy is kenneled during the day when no one is home.

I will definitely be moving the x pen, although my older dogs did have a good weekend with no accidents or marking (however I was home and encouraged them to go outside often )

For now, I am letting them work out the pack boundaries. I did have to intervene Friday evening, the puppy wandered into my room and my female jumped on him when the puppy tried to play with her. Rin did not hurt the puppy and I simply separated them and walked away (my daughter took the puppy out of the room without saying anything). I didn't want to show favoritism to either of them...ya know, reward Rin for her behavior or show the puppy special attention. I just want to do the right thing and not make things worse.

As for my husband's sister, I will have to figure out a delicate way to approach the topic of buying a puppy from a BYB and then giving me all the responsibility. Again, WHO DOES THAT?

I said earlier I met with the "breeder"...well, I did attempt to give him back to be with his mom for the next three to four weeks, she refused! She told me she had already separated the puppies from the mother.

BTW everybody, his name is ERNIE and he is absolutely adorable. I will post pics soon.

[Verbena]

Originally Posted by Maximo

I agree with Oddsock:

Move the puppy's xpen far away from your dogs' piddle pad.

Relative to relations between the puppy and the older dogs, let them work it out on their own -- unless things look dangerous.

Greet, pet, and do everything for the older dogs first. Keep their routine as normal as possible and lavish them with the same praise/affection that the puppy is getting.

Training helped bring my two boys together. Doing simple tricks for treats. We also played fetch and walked together. You will have to wait on the walking until the pup is old enough.

I also agree that you should try to talk to your SIL about giving pets as gifts. Tell her that you appreciate where her heart was, but pets are a big responsibility financially and in terms of time. Not everyone is prepared for this responsibility. Also, where they come from is important.

I agree with Oddstock and Kristin. Good luck with your new puppy. I would definitely have a talk with your SIL