Buying a Yorkie that is not from a puppy mill

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

The quotes I used were from their website. They say that they buy from different breeders and that's the definition of a puppy broker.

Here's some more information on "What's a puppy broker." The Dog Game Defined: Puppy Brokers | Frogdog Blog

Yep, I completely agree.

[bellemarie]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

I think you might be reading into that too much. On their "About Us" page, they say:

"We are an advertising source for reputable breeders throughout Southeastern Pennsylvania."

That doesn't sound like a puppy broker to me.

That's just a lie; little Sandra will be available at only 8 weeks...
She is also ACA registered... There are Very few reasons for a breeder to not akc register, and none of them are good.

[YorkieMan10]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

Yep, I completely agree.

Agree about what?

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

If you don't know what I meant by "small scale", then you should probably head back and start over at the first post. And please save your keystrokes if you're going to come in here and start throwing out assumptions. I was asking a serious question.

You seem very defensive to me.

I was asking a very serious question too when I asked if you were affiliated with greenfield puppies. They look like an obvious puppy mill broker to me...just wondering why you were posting their site and showing support for them.

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

Agree about what?

If you take a closer look at my post, you'll see that I quoted Nancy. I was obviously agreeing with her.

[YorkieMan10]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

You seem very defensive to me.

And you sound like you're here to stir up some trouble.

Originally Posted by Bitsy

They look like an obvious puppy mill broker to me

How is that so obvious? Their "About Us" page says otherwise.

Originally Posted by Bitsy

just wondering why you were posting their site and showing support for them.

I asked a few serious questions and I am now showing support? Really?

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

If you don't know what I meant by "small scale", then you should probably head back and start over at the first post. And please save your keystrokes if you're going to come in here and start throwing out assumptions. I was asking a serious question.

I certainly wasn't throwing out assumptions about you...I asked a question...which you have not answered yet.

Are you in any way affiliated with greenfield puppies?

Of course if you are, you probably wouldn't want to admit it. But, I am well within my rights to ask.

Not saying you are doing this at all, but you must understand that breeders, puppy millers, brokers, etc. come here to promote their sites all the time.

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

And you sound like you're here to stir up some trouble.


How is that so obvious? Their "About Us" page says otherwise.


I asked a few serious questions and I am now showing support? Really?

Then you obviously don't know me very well. I don't look for ways to "stir up trouble". Not my style!

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

I think you might be reading into that too much. On their "About Us" page, they say:

"We are an advertising source for reputable breeders throughout Southeastern Pennsylvania."

That doesn't sound like a puppy broker to me.

Okay, perhaps they just accept payment to advertise the dogs, it really doesn't make any difference to me. No reputable breeder would sell this way.

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Okay, perhaps they just accept payment to advertise the dogs, it really doesn't make any difference to me. No reputable breeder would sell this way.

Once again...I agree here with Nancy. To me, they are NO different than a puppy broker.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

[Bitsy]

Did a quick search here on YT for Greenfield puppies and found this old thread. Pretty interesting read.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...d-puppies.html


There are many other threads about them...just haven't read through them yet.

[Sweet Girls]

Yorkieman10, I have been following your thread, and I think I understand what you are trying to say. But let me share my story. I wanted a dog. Now, when I was young, my father came home with a Purebred Chi from a friend (no idea of the history of that one), and I added another Chi mix because of an OOPS breeding of a friend's dog...but I was now an adult, and I decided I wanted a dog. Being the personality that I am I did my research. (It took me 12 months of research before I bought my first car...reading reviews and ratings...then I walked into a dealer, chose the car and bought it in under 60 mins) When it came time to find a dog, I researched what made a good breeder, I researched what breed would best fit my needs...I went to dog shows to see/meet possible breeds that I had not really considered. Then I went to the CKC (I'm Canadian) and the Canadian Guide to Dog Breeds to find the breeder of the breed I wanted in my location...then I visited homes...at the first home the breeder seemed great, dogs looked good, she answered my questions, but it didn't just "feel" right. The next home I visited, she answered my questions, allowed me to see the pups (3 wks old), meet the dame and the father. We talked about my needs, and she determined which of the 3 puppies in that litter would be the best fit for me. We arranged a time for pick-up and I placed a deposit. I'm not particularly "close" to my breeder, but I've called when I've had a question and she has been a great support when my puppy turned out to have some skin issues. She also provided a 5 year health guarantee...not 30 days!

But that's me...and I know many people like yourself that say, "I don't want a show dog", why go to a "show breeder". The answer to that question is, you don't need to show a dog from a show breeder, but if your breeder's only purpose in breeding is to make money...then you might as well stick your money in the slot machine and see what comes out...because I am certain that a breeder breeding for money is not wasting that precious commodity on things like health checks, vet appointment, quality food etc. If you don't want the "standard" of the breed you are looking to get...then go to a rescue. They are full of puppies of "oops" litters, and rescued puppy mill dogs and others that have been "rejected" because their owners did not do their research and make the appropriate choices. In fact, the dog I bought through the above process is my Miniature Schnauzer, and my Yorkie in fact is from rescue. She came with papers, due to a change in circumstance her original owner could not keep her, and her so-called "breeder" wouldn't help her out...she would rather see her end up in rescue or a pound...

I apologize for the long reply, but its important to echo a number of the statements made in this thread. If you do your research and buy from a reputable breeder, you will have a resource for the lifetime of your puppy. People who want to buy without doing the research should look to a rescue or pound for their dog...after all any breeder who is breeding for money and not to improve the breed should not be considered an option...and if you can't stop yourself from looking at those poor dogs in the pet store, stop visiting the pet store...I have. And if you can't delay the gratification that doing the research requires than you are at risk for making a poor choice, and I'll likely soon find your puppy on Petfinder.com looking for a new home.

[YorkieMan10]

Originally Posted by Sweet Girls

If you do your research and buy from a reputable breeder

The problem is that it seems to be the popular opinion on YT that no reputable breeder posts their puppies online for sale. Yet, there are people in this forum who are doing just that. And, for some reason, that's okay. But, if you go outside of YT -- anywhere outside of it -- all puppies for sale are being sold by brokers or they come from puppy mills. Why that might be true in many cases, it just doesn't make good sense to instantly assume that is the case for every website that has puppies for sale.

[YorkieMan10]

Originally Posted by Bitsy

Did a quick search here on YT for Greenfield puppies and found this old thread. Pretty interesting read.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...d-puppies.html

There is nothing interesting about this thread. All I see are a bunch of assumptions and no facts.

[Bitsy]

Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

I don't think Nancy really meant that. It seems she just misread some content on their website.

A puppy broker is someone who buys a bunch of puppies and resells them instead of breeding within their own kennels. How that's the same as charging breeders to post on your website is beyond me. Even YT charges breeders to post puppies. I suppose you think YT is a broker too?

It's a real shame there are people like you here clogging up threads that could potentially help people with their buying experience. I came here looking for help. All you dish out is grief. Are you trying to inflate your post count to look important? I think so.

I will respectfully let Nancy speak for herself.

As for myself, it is my opinion that the site seems to be a puppy broker. You are obviously in support of them. If that is your opinion...then so be it. I wish you the best of luck in whatever way you choose to find a puppy.

For everyone else reading this thread: There are MANY ways to buy a puppy that is NOT from a puppy mill. I should know, as I have two and they are not from puppy mills. I went to show breeders who breed to show dogs and better the breed. You can find these breeders by going to local dog shows and by going to websites such as YTCA...as was suggested by many others on this thread. I would NEVER by a puppy from a broker or a puppy miller. There are better options available.