Buying a Yorkie that is not from a puppy mill - Page 3 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

KazzyK810 · 12-29-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy

I could see how that would. But I know what I mean is that you will get support from the breeder if you have questions, be that training, grooming, etc. Also a good breeder will want to know how the health of their dog is over the course of their life. It is very important information for the breeder.

Yes, I can understand that. ZoE just turned a year old a few weeks ago and when she was about 10 months old, her breeder called out of the blue to see how she was doing and to make sure she hadn't developed any health issues she should be aware of.

Nancy1999 · 12-29-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810

I see things like this referenced alot here on YT and ....I don't know how else to say this....but...it always rubs me the wrong way

. I don't want a "relationship" with a breeder....I just want a healthy dog of my own.

I look at getting a puppy much like adopting a new member to my family. And for any adoptive member of my family I'd want a closed-adoption, not an open-adoption. I want my pup to be mine...not feel like I'm raising someone else's pup...if that makes sense.

Anyone else feel this way....or is it just the only-child in me screaming, "mine, mine, mine!"

Ha ha, Joey's breeder has never made me feel like that. I know she will be a valuable resource if I ever need to make any important health decision. I also depend on a great relationship with my vet, but having Joey's breeders input will make me much more confident in my decisions. I think it’s important for breeders to stay in their clients lives because otherwise, how will they know what type of job they’ve done? Anyway, Joey's breeder is more like a good Grandma, not a surrogate mother.

MyTrixie143 · 12-29-2011, 11:02 PM

Please don't ever buy from a puppy mill, there is no excuse for it. Your just as guilty as the mill breeder by supporting them buy buying one of their pups. Your putting misery onto those poor dogs. Do you have any idea what happens to those parents?
For example, nearby recently, a guy who worked for a puppy mill came forward with all that saw that happened at one before he quit. One of the common things was to brutally kill the adult yorkies once they would no longer produce. You really want to contribute to that?

It might seem frustrating but it just takes research and time. When you buy a car for example do you not check it out thoroughly? The dealership, the make, and model, what to look for? Or do you just buy the first car you see, no questions asked.
Same thing for a dog. You do your research ahead of time. It can be a lengthy process but worth it in the end. I've always established a good relationship with the breeder long before I got a puppy.
Secondly you accept the fact that if you want a good healthy yorkie from a good breeder you may have to travel a bit to get one. PA is well known for their puppy mills so you are more likely to find a puppy mill than a good breeder there.

I haven't traveled less than 2 hours for one of my yorkies. For example, I went to Indiana for one, and Maryland for another. It was well worth it because I knew what I wanted and what I was getting.
It would have been so much easier to get a yorkie pup 5 minutes away from where I live by just going to a puppy mill. But not worth playing a part in putting those dogs in misery for the rest of their lives.
I myself have sold puppies out of state. All have driven here to meet me and my dogs as it was their better option not the most convenient one.

I wish it was easier to find a good breeder but puppy mills and back yard breeders far out number the good breeders. And with yorkies being such a popular breed it adds even more bad breeders who are looking to make money to the mix.

MyTrixie143 · 12-29-2011, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KazzyK810

I see things like this referenced alot here on YT and ....I don't know how else to say this....but...it always rubs me the wrong way

. I don't want a "relationship" with a breeder....I just want a healthy dog of my own.

I look at getting a puppy much like adopting a new member to my family. And for any adoptive member of my family I'd want a closed-adoption, not an open-adoption. I want my pup to be mine...not feel like I'm raising someone else's pup...if that makes sense.

Anyone else feel this way....or is it just the only-child in me screaming, "mine, mine, mine!"

I don't understand that. They don't tell you how to raise your yorkie. They may make suggestions or offer tips but that is for your benefit. Most have been doing this for a long time and know a thing or two.

What happens if you dog develops a condition? Or has food issues or training issues? You would want a breeder around then to help. But if you have no relationship with that breeder that isn't likely to happen.

I have a great relationships with all the people I have sold pups to. I hear from them often. I never tell them how to raise their pup but do give tips and suggestions anytime they ask and they seem grateful to have someone to go to that they can trust.

yorkiedallas · 12-29-2011, 11:21 PM

What is so special about buying a dog? I always look to a rescue or pound first. Do a petfinder search and you will be amazed at the number of high quality dogs available for adoption in your area. Or if you prefer, every single breed specific rescue is bursting at the seams with dogs that other people bought and threw away. Every new puppy born adds to the pet over population problem, no matter how the breeder justifies it.

gracielove · 12-29-2011, 11:35 PM

For others looking for a purebred dog: Go to the AKC website and look for the listing of breed clubs and conformation clubs in your area. There is a place to search for these. If you can contact people who belong to these clubs they may be able to point you in the direction of someone who breeds Yorkies in your general area. Of course you still need to do your home work and investigate the breeder and try to get references. Just because a person shows does not mean they have great stock or are necessarily honest although once you sort through your prospects you may find just the right breeder.

YorkieMan10 · 01-03-2012, 02:09 PM

The following website seems to be doing what I suggested on a small scale:
http://www.greenfieldpuppies.com

Has anyone bought puppies from this website?

Nancy1999 · 01-03-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

The following website seems to be doing what I suggested on a small scale:
http://www.greenfieldpuppies.com

Has anyone bought puppies from this website?

That particular website is run by brokers; they buy dogs from different breeders and sell to the public. They say “We visit our breeders, inspect their puppies and their facilities before we place their puppies for sale on our site. We have a strict no puppy mill policy and all of the puppies on our site carry a 30 day health guarantee. If you are looking for puppies for sale in PA, look no further!" But what they may call a puppy mill and what I call a puppy mill are two different things. A good breeder never sells to a broker. Furthermore, Pennsylvania has some of the worse puppy mills in the country.

YorkieMan10 · 01-03-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

That particular website is run by brokers; they buy dogs from different breeders and sell to the public.

Do you know that for a fact? If so, how did you come across that information?

Nancy1999 · 01-03-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

Do you know that for a fact? If so, how did you come across that information?

The quotes I used were from their website. They say that they buy from different breeders and that's the definition of a puppy broker.

Here's some more information on "What's a puppy broker." http://bullmarketfrogs.com/blog/2011...puppy-brokers/

YorkieMan10 · 01-03-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999

They say that they buy from different breeders and that's the definition of a puppy broker.

I think you might be reading into that too much. On their "About Us" page, they say:

"We are an advertising source for reputable breeders throughout Southeastern Pennsylvania."

That doesn't sound like a puppy broker to me.

Bitsy · 01-03-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

Do you know that for a fact? If so, how did you come across that information?

Just curious...YorkieMan10, are you affiliated with Greenfieldpuppies?

That site looks like a puppy mill broker to me.

Bitsy · 01-03-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

The following website seems to be doing what I suggested on a small scale:
http://www.greenfieldpuppies.com

Has anyone bought puppies from this website?

A small scale??? They have hundreds and hundreds of dogs listed. I only looked at the Yorkies, but they sure didn't all look to be a good representation of the breed.

YorkieMan10 · 01-03-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bitsy

Just curious...YorkieMan10, are you affiliated with Greenfieldpuppies?

Really?

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Originally Posted by Bitsy

A small scale??? They have hundreds and hundreds of dogs listed.

Welcome to my thread... you seem to have a lot of catching up to do....

Bitsy · 01-03-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieMan10

Really?

Welcome to my thread... you seem to have a lot of catching up to do....

Hahaha...I actually did read your thread.

Thanks for the welcome.

12-29-2011, 11:02 PM	#33
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,409	Please don't ever buy from a puppy mill, there is no excuse for it. Your just as guilty as the mill breeder by supporting them buy buying one of their pups. Your putting misery onto those poor dogs. Do you have any idea what happens to those parents? For example, nearby recently, a guy who worked for a puppy mill came forward with all that saw that happened at one before he quit. One of the common things was to brutally kill the adult yorkies once they would no longer produce. You really want to contribute to that? It might seem frustrating but it just takes research and time. When you buy a car for example do you not check it out thoroughly? The dealership, the make, and model, what to look for? Or do you just buy the first car you see, no questions asked. Same thing for a dog. You do your research ahead of time. It can be a lengthy process but worth it in the end. I've always established a good relationship with the breeder long before I got a puppy. Secondly you accept the fact that if you want a good healthy yorkie from a good breeder you may have to travel a bit to get one. PA is well known for their puppy mills so you are more likely to find a puppy mill than a good breeder there. I haven't traveled less than 2 hours for one of my yorkies. For example, I went to Indiana for one, and Maryland for another. It was well worth it because I knew what I wanted and what I was getting. It would have been so much easier to get a yorkie pup 5 minutes away from where I live by just going to a puppy mill. But not worth playing a part in putting those dogs in misery for the rest of their lives. I myself have sold puppies out of state. All have driven here to meet me and my dogs as it was their better option not the most convenient one. I wish it was easier to find a good breeder but puppy mills and back yard breeders far out number the good breeders. And with yorkies being such a popular breed it adds even more bad breeders who are looking to make money to the mix. __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey and the gang DestinyHarmonyScamperGracieLillieKiwi Hershey Peppi

12-29-2011, 11:21 PM	#35
yorkiedallas Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 220	What is so special about buying a dog? I always look to a rescue or pound first. Do a petfinder search and you will be amazed at the number of high quality dogs available for adoption in your area. Or if you prefer, every single breed specific rescue is bursting at the seams with dogs that other people bought and threw away. Every new puppy born adds to the pet over population problem, no matter how the breeder justifies it.

12-29-2011, 11:35 PM	#36
gracielove YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NY Posts: 6,582	For others looking for a purebred dog: Go to the AKC website and look for the listing of breed clubs and conformation clubs in your area. There is a place to search for these. If you can contact people who belong to these clubs they may be able to point you in the direction of someone who breeds Yorkies in your general area. Of course you still need to do your home work and investigate the breeder and try to get references. Just because a person shows does not mean they have great stock or are necessarily honest although once you sort through your prospects you may find just the right breeder.

01-03-2012, 02:09 PM	#37
YorkieMan10 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 91	The following website seems to be doing what I suggested on a small scale: http://www.greenfieldpuppies.com Has anyone bought puppies from this website?