is my yorkie pregnate

[sashazx75]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

For the next time, you don't push close to the vulva, you gently push back on the thighs. But, one has to know when to use this procedure.

The reason she keeps on moving them out of the box, is she's trying to hid them. You need to cover her area. She doesn't want anyone to see them.

thanks mardelin i didn't know that it seemed to help her with me gently pushing on her vulva..she's in a room i have my computer i'm going to change it around it put baby gates up and close the door for more privacy..when she goes in there and picks a pup up i put my hand on the floor and she puts him in my hand and does with the other 1 then she layes beside me i think she's looking for the attention i apprecite your input this was a first time for me even with reading books and talking to a lot of breeders on here you really don't know about the birthing and all that untill you've done i learn better as i go along i need any advice and ty again

[Furbaby Friend]

Originally Posted by sashazx75

...pleazzzzzzzzz give me a break you had to start somewhere and i bet when u started out you didn't know diddly squat and you learned as you went along..the vet did the hip test,eyes and blood tests then he said everything was ok he's a vet so he should more he has a degree in medicine more then you and that other thing was just my opioion everyone has there own opion...you must be 1 of these breeders that after your female is done breeding gets rid of them as if to say your no use to me now i couldn't do that they r family so leave me alone or i will report u getting so tired of immature ppl like you that feels joy in bashing ppl and making them miserable you must have a boring life so enough

I'm going to make a repost here of another post I made in a previous thread regarding vet authority...

"I don't see how people can neglect researching things when they have the time! Research is important! ::sigh:: Okay so you don't actually want to read up? Well don't call the expert breeders here less than intelligent because some random [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]vet[/COLOR][/COLOR] told you otherwise. Here let me make an analogy for you... (edit)

A vet is like a primary care doctor. A primary care doctor can tell you a lot of stuff because they went to medical school and such, BUT a *good* doctor refers you a a specialist when they are out of their league.

So moving along, you become pregnant. Where do human women go when they are preggers? When they need prenatal care? Birthing care? After care? What about after care for the baby? A primary care physician? Nope, they go to a gynecologist for their own prenatal care, birthing, and personal after care because gynecologists have the specific knowledge and went for extra specialized schooling to get more info on that specific field. Babies eventually go to a *pediatrician* and not a primary care [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]physician[/COLOR][/COLOR] until they are old enough to because children are also a special case to deal with.

Therefore, I'd say the breeders here as FAR better equipped than a primary care vet and especially more than an emergency vet.

Ever been to the emergency room? Well I have, quite a bit actually, due to my health complications (allergies/asthma/etc.) The release papers ALWAYS tell you to follow up with your primary because they know more about you and your history and are more equipped to handle your personal situation. Docs in ERs actually hardly know anything if whatever is wrong with you isn't easy to pinpoint either. They often tell you to follow up elsewhere.

My two sense is I'd trust the breeders here to know their stuff, especially about Yorkies because that is what they dedicate their LIVES to. Your vet is dedicated to a wide array of animals and I'm sure doesn't have room in their head to know everything there is to know about all of them. Unless you went to a specialized vet, which it doesn't seem like you did. I'd trust the people here...

That's just my opinion though I guess, but my experience in life, logic, and simple analogy tells me it is a good one. ::shrug::"

Moving right along. If you were referring to Mardelin, which is who you quoted in that post, you are off your rocker and have definitely NOT done enough reading here AT ALL. I'm not even looking to be a breeder, but I've read enough posts involving Mardelin to know that they are experienced, smart, and intelligent. Gosh darn it, if I was going into breeding I'd KILL to have Mardelin as my mentor. Mardelin cares about ALL dogs, obviously even those that are not their own after reading so many posts where they helped out, and would never "use" them. So you'd do well to respect instead of insult when asking for advice and getting it.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

I'm going to make a repost here of another post I made in a previous thread regarding vet authority...

"I don't see how people can neglect researching things when they have the time! Research is important! ::sigh:: Okay so you don't actually want to read up? Well don't call the expert breeders here less than intelligent because some random [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]vet[/COLOR][/COLOR] told you otherwise. Here let me make an analogy for you... (edit)

A vet is like a primary care doctor. A primary care doctor can tell you a lot of stuff because they went to medical school and such, BUT a *good* doctor refers you a a specialist when they are out of their league.

So moving along, you become pregnant. Where do human women go when they are preggers? When they need prenatal care? Birthing care? After care? What about after care for the baby? A primary care physician? Nope, they go to a gynecologist for their own prenatal care, birthing, and personal after care because gynecologists have the specific knowledge and went for extra specialized schooling to get more info on that specific field. Babies eventually go to a *pediatrician* and not a primary care [COLOR=green ! important][COLOR=green ! important]physician[/COLOR][/COLOR] until they are old enough to because children are also a special case to deal with.

Therefore, I'd say the breeders here as FAR better equipped than a primary care vet and especially more than an emergency vet.

Ever been to the emergency room? Well I have, quite a bit actually, due to my health complications (allergies/asthma/etc.) The release papers ALWAYS tell you to follow up with your primary because they know more about you and your history and are more equipped to handle your personal situation. Docs in ERs actually hardly know anything if whatever is wrong with you isn't easy to pinpoint either. They often tell you to follow up elsewhere.

My two sense is I'd trust the breeders here to know their stuff, especially about Yorkies because that is what they dedicate their LIVES to. Your vet is dedicated to a wide array of animals and I'm sure doesn't have room in their head to know everything there is to know about all of them. Unless you went to a specialized vet, which it doesn't seem like you did. I'd trust the people here...

That's just my opinion though I guess, but my experience in life, logic, and simple analogy tells me it is a good one. ::shrug::"

Moving right along. If you were referring to Mardelin, which is who you quoted in that post, you are off your rocker and have definitely NOT done enough reading here AT ALL. I'm not even looking to be a breeder, but I've read enough posts involving Mardelin to know that they are experienced, smart, and intelligent. Gosh darn it, if I was going into breeding I'd KILL to have Mardelin as my mentor. Mardelin cares about ALL dogs, obviously even those that are not their own after reading so many posts where they helped out, and would never "use" them. So you'd do well to respect instead of insult when asking for advice and getting it.

Why on earth would you dig up a thread that is 4 months old. these puppies have no doubt already gone to their new homes.

[sashazx75]

omg this is so old news and this is why i'm not on here anymore because of the bashing and the yelling and screaming and the put downs..i have found another forum where the ppl really care about each other and there feelings..i came on here to get help and all everyone did was run me into the ground..so i will no longer be on here like i said i found a better forum with a lot better ppl

[sashazx75]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

Why on earth would you dig up a thread that is 4 months old. these puppies have no doubt already gone to their new homes.

ty jeanie by saying this is 4months old yes scooter found a great home with new ppl and his name is now cody and i've decided to keep samson who just got fixed the other day so no breeding with mom and mom will be fixed in the future i'm done breeding i did it once and spent a lot of money on it..and learned a lot because of it..and again ty

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by sashazx75

ty jeanie by saying this is 4months old yes scooter found a great home with new ppl and his name is now cody and i've decided to keep samson who just got fixed the other day so no breeding with mom and mom will be fixed in the future i'm done breeding i did it once and spent a lot of money on it..and learned a lot because of it..and again ty

well it's good to know that you learning your lesson! some of us already knew that breeding is better left to the pros but i'm glad you figured it out the hard way as opposed to never figuring anything out at all.

[JeanieK]

I have no idea why people are beng so snotty. it's all over and done so what is the point of continuing to beat a dead horse.

Good luck to you.

[sashazx75]

Originally Posted by JeanieK

I have no idea why people are beng so snotty. it's all over and done so what is the point of continuing to beat a dead horse.

Good luck to you.

and again ty jeanie ppl just won't leave it alone i haven't heard anything for a couple of months and now starting back up and with christmas around the corner i don't need this and want to hear it..ty for your kind words again take care and merry christmas

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by sashazx75

to what i have said to ppl like you in the passed shutup...the experience breeders as you call them had to start from scratch and in my opinion you learn as you go along and complications can arise with breeding a small breed and yes i had complications and the experience ppl have complications rolling eyes back leave me alone like you and everyone else if you have nothing to say then shutup cause i don't want to hear and like i said that's why i went to another site with ppl who don't judge you for breeding i only intended to do it once for and offspring not like ppl who do it for the money so leave me alone..

I'm sorry you don't like the responses, and I kinda understand why you would question this thread's revival, but I also understand why the person revived it. I can see both sides of the coin. I'm sorry you had a hard time with the whelp, which could have been avoided if you would have done your homework in advance. You'll probably get mad for that comment too.

Anyway, my whole point for posting is to let you know you can opt out of ever getting a message from YT ever again. I know you said you found a better forum, and I'm happy for you. If you don't know how to opt out of getting email notifications you can unsubscribe to your own thread which is located in the upper left corner of the screen under "Thread tools". It doesn't affect your membership at all, but those pesky notifications will be gone. I hope that helps.

[Rhetts_mama]

If you don't want anyone to respond to this post anymore, contact admin and have them lock it.

BTW, I did report your post to Boopster. When you post on a public forum, expect to get a wide variety of responses. Telling someone to "shut up" isn't called for. This thread was not only for you, but for education of others who might find it.

As for the comment about "people being snooty", I wonder how that person can reconcile that statement with the multiple postings earlier about compassion. *Shrug*

[Furbaby Friend]

Okay... I apologized to the OP in a PM because I didn't want to make yet another post that bumped this thread, but obviously I've resurrected it now and it isn't going to just go away.

I'm sorry for bringing back a super old thread (I didn't realize it was super old at the time). It is just the outright disrespect really, really bothered me when I was reading through this thread and I couldn't keep my big mouth shut. I also felt like the analogy about vets is one that should be brought up any time the "breeders don't have a degree so they are obviously wrong and stupid" argument is brought up.

I didn't realize there was so much drama going on here at YT either as I've been MIA for a bit (I just read the compassion thread and also the thread where that one stemmed from, etc.) I feel like such a trouble making jerk now it isn't even funny.

So to all, sorry for beating a dead horse... Bringing up this thread was not my brightest moment and a bad idea. It was a mistake and I do apologize.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

Okay... I apologized to the OP in a PM because I didn't want to make yet another post that bumped this thread, but obviously I've resurrected it now and it isn't going to just go away.

I'm sorry for bringing back a super old thread (I didn't realize it was super old at the time). It is just the outright disrespect really, really bothered me when I was reading through this thread and I couldn't keep my big mouth shut. I also felt like the analogy about vets is one that should be brought up any time the "breeders don't have a degree so they are obviously wrong and stupid" argument is brought up.

I didn't realize there was so much drama going on here at YT either as I've been MIA for a bit (I just read the compassion thread and also the thread where that one stemmed from, etc.) I feel like such a trouble making jerk now it isn't even funny.

So to all, sorry for beating a dead horse... Bringing up this thread was not my brightest moment and a bad idea. It was a mistake and I do apologize.

Bringing up old threads is at times is good practice. Especially with those that provide good information to assist others.

I don't believe there was any bashing on this thread by those offering the advice. No nonsense advice, yes. No sugar coating. People at times refer to any strong advice as bashing, and they don't really know the definition of bashing. Which is associated with character attacks....mmmm come to think of it there was one post doing just that, but not by the people offering advice.

[JeanieK]

Originally Posted by Furbaby Friend

Okay... I apologized to the OP in a PM because I didn't want to make yet another post that bumped this thread, but obviously I've resurrected it now and it isn't going to just go away.

I'm sorry for bringing back a super old thread (I didn't realize it was super old at the time). It is just the outright disrespect really, really bothered me when I was reading through this thread and I couldn't keep my big mouth shut. I also felt like the analogy about vets is one that should be brought up any time the "breeders don't have a degree so they are obviously wrong and stupid" argument is brought up.

I didn't realize there was so much drama going on here at YT either as I've been MIA for a bit (I just read the compassion thread and also the thread where that one stemmed from, etc.) I feel like such a trouble making jerk now it isn't even funny.

So to all, sorry for beating a dead horse... Bringing up this thread was not my brightest moment and a bad idea. It was a mistake and I do apologize.

;-) Don't beat yourself up either. It's ok we've all done dumb things. Well I know I have, there may be some people who haven't.

[bellemarie]

how long does it take for a retained puppy to poison a yorkie? surely there would be rediculously obvious signs? that a 'show breeder' should have spotted?
sorry, may be a silly, incorrect observation; this question is being aimed at the ones who apparently should 'shut-up' btw...