Just a question...

[SMApup]

I am around reading some posts here and there and I have noticed quite a few people responding to posts about selling puppies too young... I have not even bred my girl yet and I have four people that are ready to purchase a puppy from me. Is this wrong? I have always read and been told that a good sign of a responsible breeder, whether a new breeder or established, was when puppies already have a place to go before they are ready to be separated from mom... Am I wrong? Was all the experience that I had in the past with breeding other breeds wrong? So, is it so bad that people are looking for homes for puppies that are newborns? Just a little confused about this...



What are other people's thoughts on this...

[BonBon]

At what age were you planning to let them go to their new homes?

[francis53]

Originally Posted by SMApup

I am around reading some posts here and there and I have noticed quite a few people responding to posts about selling puppies too young... I have not even bred my girl yet and I have four people that are ready to purchase a puppy from me. Is this wrong? I have always read and been told that a good sign of a responsible breeder, whether a new breeder or established, was when puppies already have a place to go before they are ready to be separated from mom... Am I wrong? Was all the experience that I had in the past with breeding other breeds wrong? So, is it so bad that people are looking for homes for puppies that are newborns? Just a little confused about this...



What are other people's thoughts on this...

I think it is great to have homes lined up before the pups are even born, that's a great idea. The problem is, breeders letting their puppies go to those new homes too young. Yorkies especially really need to stay with mom and siblings till that are around 12 weeks old. I know it is hard for the new owners to wait that long, but it really is in the best interest of the puppy.

[yorkiemama1986]

Originally Posted by francis53

I think it is great to have homes lined up before the pups are even born, that's a great idea. The problem is, breeders letting their puppies go to those new homes too young. Yorkies especially really need to stay with mom and siblings till that are around 12 weeks old. I know it is hard for the new owners to wait that long, but it really is in the best interest of the puppy.

i agree...and i have one home lined up so far, but even i had a woman email me and wanted me to "let one go as soon as posible" and i said HELL NO. she said she was used to bottle feeding and it would "save me money"
hell, i dont care how broke i get. my pups will have ALL their vaccs before leaving for my peace of mind. But it just goes to show you what peoples intentions are

[WinstonMom]

Wonderful, line up homes, just please keep your puppies with their mom for the 12 week period. Puppies that leave home early have bad manners. Mom teaches them how to act with other dogs and with people.

[SMApup]

I know that I have plans that my girls pups will not leave her until they are twelve weeks or have reached a weight at which they are past some of the more common issues that can come with a smaller puppy.

What bothers me though is that some people need to stop immediatly assuming that others do not understand the special needs that some pups can/may need whether it is by breed or because of a physical reason. The condescending tone is not appreciated by some people. This is supposed to be a community where we can get together, celebrate and share the love that we have for our little guys.

Those of us that are choosing to breed are looking for support and a bit of an education in the mean time. I know I can learn something every day and have actually had some really fantastic conversations with some people here on things as diverse as genetics to the best way to snuggle up with my little girl...

[danny7481]

i have been flamed for supposidly selling pups to young. but in all honestly i already have 1 home for one pup, and i broke the rules and responded to someones post about wanting to purchase one. but i had no intentions of taking a puppy away from mom early (absolutly not). my intentions were basically just letting the person know i have pups and when its time for them to leave mom, we can talk. i do plan on doing my best to make sure a pup goes to a good home. the 1 pup thats already got a home is a family member and he asks me while she was pregnant, LOL

[scrapindee]

If one goes into the Sick, Injured section, you will see many of these ill puppies were less than 12 weeks when they left their breeders. Or, we read about dogs being pregnant on their first heat, or the owner didn't know their girl was pregnant, or the girl got pregnant by a male twice her size.

In theory, a breeder shouldn't be breeding before having clients lined up for puppies. In theory, the breeder is breeding to the standard and is looking for that perfect dog for themselves, before being interested in the sales of puppies.

We all learn something new everyday, and we want to improve our breeding skills and information.

I screen potential buyers, get references, run google and yahoo searches, yahoo map, call the rescue organizations in their areas, etc. Does every breeder do this, probably not. Every breeder sets their own requirements...

and for every breeder who doesn't do this, there are puppies leaving at 6-8 weeks, even going to family members doesn't mean that puppies can grow up to be healthy and have a long life.....every breeder makes choices; hopefully for the best interest of their puppies.

[SET Yorkies]

Originally Posted by SMApup

I am around reading some posts here and there and I have noticed quite a few people responding to posts about selling puppies too young... I have not even bred my girl yet and I have four people that are ready to purchase a puppy from me. Is this wrong? I have always read and been told that a good sign of a responsible breeder, whether a new breeder or established, was when puppies already have a place to go before they are ready to be separated from mom... Am I wrong? Was all the experience that I had in the past with breeding other breeds wrong? So, is it so bad that people are looking for homes for puppies that are newborns? Just a little confused about this...



What are other people's thoughts on this...

I generally have a "waiting list" if possible prior to breeding. This insures that the puppies have a committed home waiting and preparing for his/her arrival. Clients have time to purchase supplies, "puppy safe" their home, and generally prepare / research especially if this is their 1st yorkie.

However, I keep the puppies for 15 wks even if they are "sold" to insure there are no issues... Many congenital / genetic issues tend to surface between the 10th and 15th wk, so it is best to monitor that period closely and have the puppies last "well check" during that time. Just another safeguard for your puppies and your potential clients. I do offer "bonding" time for clients who live close, so that every week they can come over and spend time with their puppy. This really helps in the transition from my home to their new home as they already know their new parents' voices, smell, ect... For out of town clients, I suggest sending an item of clothing that has been worn (tshirt) or a blanket the family has laid on as well as toys and such that will go home with the puppy.

As many have explained, puppies placed at 6 and 8 wks are barely weened and still need the socilaizatoin skills only mom and other siblings can effectively provide... They miss this critical socilaizatoin period which makes training more difficult and can greatly affect temperament...

[RoscoesMommy42]

Originally Posted by SMApup

I know that I have plans that my girls pups will not leave her until they are twelve weeks or have reached a weight at which they are past some of the more common issues that can come with a smaller puppy.

What bothers me though is that some people need to stop immediatly assuming that others do not understand the special needs that some pups can/may need whether it is by breed or because of a physical reason. The condescending tone is not appreciated by some people. This is supposed to be a community where we can get together, celebrate and share the love that we have for our little guys.

Those of us that are choosing to breed are looking for support and a bit of an education in the mean time. I know I can learn something every day and have actually had some really fantastic conversations with some people here on things as diverse as genetics to the best way to snuggle up with my little girl...

I think that many times when the wonderful, experienced breeders on here are trying to educate someone, or just make sure that they know certain things, they are taken the wrong way. The fact is that many do NOT know very important things and I think it is great they are willing to share their knowledge. If it is already known, great! But someone that dosen't know may also be reading the thread and learn something. Sometimes things get taken wrong when typing. That's why I hate texting sometimes! LOL JMHO

[smartpuppiepets]

Originally Posted by SMApup

I am around reading some posts here and there and I have noticed quite a few people responding to posts about selling puppies too young... I have not even bred my girl yet and I have four people that are ready to purchase a puppy from me. Is this wrong? I have always read and been told that a good sign of a responsible breeder, whether a new breeder or established, was when puppies already have a place to go before they are ready to be separated from mom... Am I wrong? Was all the experience that I had in the past with breeding other breeds wrong? So, is it so bad that people are looking for homes for puppies that are newborns? Just a little confused about this...



What are other people's thoughts on this...

Nothing wrong in finding homes to new born, but you need to make sure you wait until the right age, about 12 weeks or older to send them home.
A great thing about having homes for them already is that you can have the future owners come in several times and socialize with the puppies before you send them home. And you may develop a great relationship and make new friends too.



XOXO

[BamaFan121s]

There is nothing at all wrong with having a waiting list before you have a litter. (I have always thought that was a very GOOD thing.)
I think the complaints come from 1) people posting pups for sale when they are under 10 wks, which is against YT guidelines, and 2) people releasing pups in general when they are very young, in the 8 wk range.

[joeys mom]

I am thinking about advertising for Cabella's litter in the paper. They are 3 weeks old, but I was thinking the new owners could follow their development with weekly picture updates and now that I can tell each puppy I could do a daily diary on each pup. This is something I would like to have had with Joey. I was thinking I could take deposits for pick of the litter, 2nd pick of litter etc. Not sure if this is a good idea or not. look forward to more of you giving your opinions. Sharon

[SMApup]

Originally Posted by joeys mom

I am thinking about advertising for Cabella's litter in the paper. They are 3 weeks old, but I was thinking the new owners could follow their development with weekly picture updates and now that I can tell each puppy I could do a daily diary on each pup. This is something I would like to have had with Joey. I was thinking I could take deposits for pick of the litter, 2nd pick of litter etc. Not sure if this is a good idea or not. look forward to more of you giving your opinions. Sharon

I think it's a great idea... That's pretty much what I plan on doing. I think people should have an oportunity to see their puppy grow up. And it is built in socialization with other people. It gives you as a breeder a chance to build up a really good relationship with the new "parents." It builds trust and you can even help them set up vet visits... teach puppy how to wear a collar... walk on a leash... I know that would be in an ideal world and it may not happen but it is a plan.

Trevor

[jeanm1963]

I live in Ma, are you breeding the female that is in your avitar??? Are you just breeding one litter or are you planning on future breeding as well, I know in your area there are very few breeders if any? I believe there is just cape cod yorkies toward the Cape area?