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Old 09-12-2011, 08:25 AM   #151
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You are on the wrong side of this fence. She obviously was suspended for a reason. The folks who send their gifts and put thought and energy into doing so are the ones who are compassionate. If I received only 1 gift for my dog that was handmade, and my buddy was very actively leaving hints and was genuinely excited about my gift, i would be content with that one gift if I knew it came from the heart. If someone put $200 worth of "stuff" in a box that doesn't fit or have anything to do with my dog's personality or being, never left a hint and shipped it out late, i would have been happier with the 1 gift. I personally join the GE because I like to give. I think that's 90% of us. The other 10% are the ones who you are compassionate for.

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You are on the wrong side of this fence. She obviously was suspended for a reason. The folks who send their gifts and put thought and energy into doing so are the ones who are compassionate. If I received only 1 gift for my dog that was handmade, and my buddy was very actively leaving hints and was genuinely excited about my gift, i would be content with that one gift if I knew it came from the heart. If someone put $200 worth of "stuff" in a box that doesn't fit or have anything to do with my dog's personality or being, never left a hint and shipped it out late, i would have been happier with the 1 gift. I personally join the GE because I like to give. I think that's 90% of us. The other 10% are the ones who you are compassionate for.

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Well said Karen and I agree with you totally. One gift made with love and caring is worth 100 times more than a ton of money spent and nary a thought put into it...sorry my southern side came out there with the "nary"
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:13 AM   #153
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Thank you. It was a difficult month for sure. But I should have explained my point further. I have witnessed compassion here more than once in the GE because life gets in the way. If I am not mistaken, there is another example of that this time around. The thing is, "most" people come back to say the GE was the high light of their low spot. It's what put a smile on their face, or gave them something else to focus on through their rough patch, including me. It helped me get throuh it.
very well put Shelly and i am so sorry for your loss

i think the part of this that really upsets me is that there was no appology or explanation sooner, or ever really. and it has happened over and over and over. the lack of compassion on the senders part is sad.

I have been going through the hardest time of my life this month with a divorce i don't want to see happen, spending days at the ICU with my MIL not knowing if she was going to make it and having to put my heart break aside to be a support system for my now ex husband who thought his mother was going to die, apartment hunting, packing up my life and trying to mentally prepare myself for starting over. i had way more stress and sadness than i thought i could ever handle...but i would try to get on here when i could to at least give a little update or a hint and was truly upset that i couldn't give more time in the hint threads for both the buddy that we have and the trying to guess the buddy that had us. i understand that no matter what i am going through, there are other people who are involved with the commitment i made to the GE and i know how sad i was when my buddy in the first GE i ever entered (years ago) didn't post any pictures or a smilebox of the gifts i sent to them.

not once did i think of the GE as a burden and it was always a happy retreat to help me re-group, remember YT and all the friends and FURiends we have made here and the support that has been shown to me from so many people that i have never met.

i know life happens and i truly do feel for the sender if all of these bad things continued to happen for real, but you never know what kind of day your buddy could be having either... it might not be as bad as yours, but sometimes trying to give someone else a smile helps to put one on your face too...

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Old 09-12-2011, 09:26 AM   #154
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well I guess because I am the one who did not receive the box this ge I feel like I need to respond.

I hope you read the responding post I made to my sb. I don't think I say anything that was mean or untrue. I agree... I think we all could have more compasion but when that compasion is abused we have to take a stand. I feel for my sb, I really do, but I think she abused the ge, and hurt quite a few people.
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I would like to add...

I really love you guys, and I am so sorry that some of you are having such hard times. I wish I really had the power to make it all better.

I have had my share of the bad times and the support and love I got from my yt family helped me a lot. My little yapping yorkies in the back seat of my car... lol
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i know life happens and i truly do feel for the sender if all of these bad things continued to happen for real, but you never know what kind of day your buddy could be having either... it might not be as bad as yours, but sometimes trying to give someone else a smile helps to put one on your face too...
i re read this line and hope no one takes this as defending the senders actions. i was telling the sender that SHE is the one that should remember that no matter how bad her day is or what she is going through that she should have still made an attempt to make her buddy smile and shown the buddy that sent her gifts some respect and post at least pictures... i worded it a little bit weird and didn't want any confusion...
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Almost this entire thread makes me very sad and the other thread closed made me
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i re read this line and hope no one takes this as defending the senders actions. i was telling the sender that SHE is the one that should remember that no matter how bad her day is or what she is going through that she should have still made an attempt to make her buddy smile and shown the buddy that sent her gifts some respect and post at least pictures... i worded it a little bit weird and didn't want any confusion...

don't worry... we know what you were saying!!
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Of the things I've learned (or tried to) in life, one is that compassion, care and understanding (along with forgiveness) are crucial to our well being as humans. However, it is equally crucial to protect ourselves from abuse. My perspective is that over several GEs this SB has turned abusive. She is abusing other's good will, her "right" to take what she can and give as little as possible, "abusively" ignoring the person who gave to her with love, and also affecting the GE experience for all who enjoy the comaraderie, fun and presence of other buddies and friends. The compassion and understanding that HAD been shown to her wore thin as many protected themselves and their friends.

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You haven't walked in any of these shoes. In fact, many here know FAR more about the situation than you do, based on your posts. The comments made were based on "proof" that she was out and about, sewing, taking and posting pics and had plenty of time, energy and wellness to do what she chose to do.
Karma might, indeed, come into play here...

BTW, as far as the high road, to have your say and then refuse to "listen" to others about it...not such a high road, nor very understanding.

This is all sad...obviously for many. I also chose to be in this GE during a challenging time, as I knew it would be a bright, fun and happy diversion. It was for me, but not so much for Juicy and Remy.
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This post actually makes me so sad. This was Lily's and I first GE. And I worried the whole time if I was doing things right. We had so much fun trying to guess who our buddy might be. And watching all the clues even when we knew we where out. I can not imagine how sad Remy is not receiving a box. My skin daughters asked every day if Lily got her box. ( they are grown and do not live with me). There is a lot of sadness that happens in our lives. But when you sign up you are making a promise to everyone in the GE. And when you don't keep that promise it affects many people. I am truly sorry for all your pains and problems. But then maybe the Ge is not for you. So sorry Cha Cha about your brother. And hang in there Alana better times are coming. I love this group of people and look forward to the next GE.
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Almost this entire thread makes me very sad and the other thread closed made me
I would like to clarify.... I am sad that unfortunate circumstances caused Remy to be hurt ((huggs)). I am even more sad that so much judgement and attacking (especially in other thread) has to be made in a public forum
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Of the things I've learned (or tried to) in life, one is that compassion, care and understanding (along with forgiveness) are crucial to our well being as humans. However, it is equally crucial to protect ourselves from abuse. My perspective is that over several GEs this SB has turned abusive. She is abusing other's good will, her "right" to take what she can and give as little as possible, "abusively" ignoring the person who gave to her with love, and also affecting the GE experience for all who enjoy the comaraderie, fun and presence of other buddies and friends. The compassion and understanding that HAD been shown to her wore thin as many protected themselves and their friends.

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You haven't walked in any of these shoes. In fact, many here know FAR more about the situation than you do, based on your posts. The comments made were based on "proof" that she was out and about, sewing, taking and posting pics and had plenty of time, energy and wellness to do what she chose to do.
Karma might, indeed, come into play here...

BTW, as far as the high road, to have your say and then refuse to "listen" to others about it...not such a high road, nor very understanding.

This is all sad...obviously for many. I also chose to be in this GE during a challenging time, as I knew it would be a bright, fun and happy diversion. It was for me, but not so much for Juicy and Remy.
I said I was done here and I am. However, I felt the need to respond to the bolded text. I will not be responding to anything other than people turning my words (some intentionally, and some perhaps unintentionally).

Again, I will say I did NOT say any of my posts here were taking the high road.

I have NOT taken the high road here (nor did I ever say anything of the sort). I am human and I have faults. I am fully aware of this. I even said that I was NOT taking the high road because I was (like the rest of you) making judgments on a situation that I am not involved in.

What I did say was that I, put in the situation where I did not receive a gift or knew that someone did not receive a gift and that was because someone was having hardship, that *I* would have shown compassion *in that situation.*

I simply would have given the benefit of the doubt, shown some compassion, and moved on. It isn't like it wasn't ever coming, it was just delayed.

I am not in that situation and never claimed to have taken the high road with any of my actions here. In fact, I said the opposite. That in judging the situation at all that I was not really taking proper action. People need to stop putting words in my mouth.
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I said I was done here and I am. However, I felt the need to respond to the bolded text. I will not be responding to anything other than people turning my words (some intentionally, and some perhaps unintentionally).

Again, I will say I did NOT say any of my posts here were taking the high road.

I have NOT taken the high road here (nor did I ever say anything of the sort). I am human and I have faults. I am fully aware of this. I even said that I was NOT taking the high road because I was (like the rest of you) making judgments on a situation that I am not involved in.

What I did say was that I, put in the situation where I did not receive a gift or knew that someone did not receive a gift and that was because someone was having hardship, that *I* would have shown compassion *in that situation.*

I simply would have given the benefit of the doubt, shown some compassion, and moved on. It isn't like it wasn't ever coming, it was just delayed.

I am not in that situation and never claimed to have taken the high road with any of my actions here. In fact, I said the opposite. That in judging the situation at all that I was not really taking proper action. People need to stop putting words in my mouth.
I have to comment. My Max has not received a gift. His buddy is going through hardship and 100% of the GE folks have been extremely supportive and compassionate. In fact, if it takes us another month to receive that gift we will still wait for it happily and accept it graciously with understanding. buddy

The member we don't appear to be compassionate for undergoes hardship during every GE. If things are so difficult, why sign up and put someone out every single time?

Furbaby Friend, you know I like you. But this has been going on way too long now and I don't think you realized this before you commented.
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I think people should refrain from judging about a situation they do not have the whole story about. I do not have the story either, but I'm just saying it is not good to judge. I tend to err on the side of compassion and understanding in situations like this.
You don't know the whole story, her past SB do. Time and time again she gives excuses why boxes are not sent, why she doesn't participate in the hints threads, etc. While it was a fact that she was at a sewing expo doing just fine. She had time to post a GE box from another forum. She had plenty of time to post up tons of pics of stuff she had to sell. This was all during this same few days.

Some stupid gifts are not as important as showing someone understanding when they are going through a tough time. Chemo (to treat constant pain like RA), a leg injury, a depressed immune system, family members in an accident... those things deserve a little understanding in my opinion.

Would I be sad that I didn't get my gifts on time? Yes. However, I don't think ripping someone apart when they are going through a rough time and already feeling remorse is the best road to take.

What to you seems like excuses could be someone's real pain, and THEN how would you feel for picking at them? Karma certainly wouldn't smile upon you.
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I said I was done here and I am. However, I felt the need to respond to the bolded text. I will not be responding to anything other than people turning my words (some intentionally, and some perhaps unintentionally).

Again, I will say I did NOT say any of my posts here were taking the high road.

I have NOT taken the high road here (nor did I ever say anything of the sort). I am human and I have faults. I am fully aware of this. I even said that I was NOT taking the high road because I was (like the rest of you) making judgments on a situation that I am not involved in.

What I did say was that I, put in the situation where I did not receive a gift or knew that someone did not receive a gift and that was because someone was having hardship, that *I* would have shown compassion *in that situation.*

I simply would have given the benefit of the doubt, shown some compassion, and moved on. It isn't like it wasn't ever coming, it was just delayed.
The first times people DID give the benefit of the doubt and did not complain about the cheap dollar store gifts or the super late boxes. It wasn't until this time around that it came to light that MANY of her past SB have had the same experience from her. Enough is enough. How many times must one let someone take advantage of them until you speak up? Sometime speaking up IS taking the high road.

I am not in that situation and never claimed to have taken the high road with any of my actions here. In fact, I said the opposite. That in judging the situation at all that I was not really taking proper action. People need to stop putting words in my mouth.
In order to not put words in your mouth, I am directly quoting you.

Really, you've never participated in a GE before, you don't know any of the back story regarding this person. You really need to stop shaking your finger at us. You say we shouldn't be too quick to judge, but you were quick to judge us. Hmmm. That doesn't sound hypocritical at all. Or you need to just apologize for your gaffe for not reading the whole thread.
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I said I was done here and I am. However, I felt the need to respond to the bolded text. I will not be responding to anything other than people turning my words (some intentionally, and some perhaps unintentionally).

Again, I will say I did NOT say any of my posts here were taking the high road.

I have NOT taken the high road here (nor did I ever say anything of the sort). I am human and I have faults. I am fully aware of this. I even said that I was NOT taking the high road because I was (like the rest of you) making judgments on a situation that I am not involved in.

What I did say was that I, put in the situation where I did not receive a gift or knew that someone did not receive a gift and that was because someone was having hardship, that *I* would have shown compassion *in that situation.*

I simply would have given the benefit of the doubt, shown some compassion, and moved on. It isn't like it wasn't ever coming, it was just delayed.

I am not in that situation and never claimed to have taken the high road with any of my actions here. In fact, I said the opposite. That in judging the situation at all that I was not really taking proper action. People need to stop putting words in my mouth.
but what if you found out that the person you were showing compassion to had done this to several of your friends in the past? How would you feel then? at that point it looks a bit like a scam
I agree, I will live without the box, I was upset but I am over it now. I have too much other life to focus on this too long. I know the person who I sent my box to is happy (or at the very least she has the grace to act happy). I made my statement to the person in question beacuse other people that I have grown fond of on yt were hurt too.

I think you are a great person, put I feel now you are putting words in my mouth.. not on purpose but I wanted to clear that up too.
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