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marcerella02 · 09-23-2008, 05:50 PM

wow. I know nothing about breeding but i'll be praying for the safety of Gracie and her pups! please keep us posted!

altigger74 · 09-23-2008, 05:59 PM

thank you and I will. The computer is here next to us while we wait.

TeddyBear · 09-23-2008, 06:04 PM

I hope everything goes okay. I'll keep checking the forum for updates. Fingers are crossed and hands are folded praying.

peanut · 09-23-2008, 06:07 PM

What is she doing now, is she discharging or panting

PANAMA69 · 09-23-2008, 06:08 PM

I don't know either anything about breeding but I sure hope also that everything turn out fine for her and the puppies

eaglez28 · 09-23-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by altigger74

This whole thing is just weird to me. I can't be three weeks off but she has alot of milk, and the baby on the ultrasound you could see it's bones perfectly. Her temp at 12pm was 101.2 and now it's 99.9. I'm so confused

Do you remember what dates they tied?
Which day did you start recording temps?

altigger74 · 09-23-2008, 06:15 PM

She was bred Aug 11, 12, and 13 which should put them due on Oct 14
I just started recording the temp today. I was planning on starting that in Oct.

altigger74 · 09-23-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by peanut

What is she doing now, is she discharging or panting

She's discharging, and has that vstaring off into space look and she pushes little pushes now and then

peanut · 09-23-2008, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by altigger74

She was bred Aug 11, 12, and 13 which should put them due on Oct 14
I just started recording the temp today. I was planning on starting that in Oct.

I did that with Lexie on the temp. taking and it about drove me crazy, if I remember right it started about 2 or 2.5 weeks before she had Magnolia, it would go up and down so much I gave on using it as a sign.

delisa2850 · 09-23-2008, 06:38 PM

Prayers from Idaho right now for you and Gracie and her little ones. Hang in there!

eaglez28 · 09-23-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by altigger74

She was bred Aug 11, 12, and 13 which should put them due on Oct 14
I just started recording the temp today. I was planning on starting that in Oct.

you are right - they should be due oct 13th
very confusing???
these pups can't come out this early.
Good Luck - we will be praying for gracie.

luckylady · 09-23-2008, 07:06 PM

I'm just getting ready to sign off and head for bed as I see this thread. I will say some extra prayers tonight for you, Gracie, and her babies and will check back in the morning.

altigger74 · 09-23-2008, 08:01 PM

Thank you everyone! She has been calm for the past hour. She was discharging some black goop but no major pushing. I'm wondering if maybe she was expelling some of the babies that never formed or started to disolve. He** I don't know anymore. With the stethiscope we can still hear two heartbeats. I will call the vet in the morning and see what he says.

yorkiegirl2 · 09-23-2008, 08:38 PM

I’m sorry but it sounds like there is a placenta detachment.
I hope that it does not cause a domino effect, that causes the others to detach too.
I had a girl that did the same thing.
She had the green and black discharge 2-3 weeks early.
She did not go into labor and no pup was born so I know she had absorbed it.
She did go on to carried the other 2 pups to term.
She expelled 2 placentas at birth but retain the other.
My Vet said to wait and see if the other came out so I didn’t get the clean out shot and it set up a uterine infection that I believe damaged one of her horns.
Just be sure to keep check on her if she does not expel the pup she is losing and the placenta .
Have your Vet to give her the clean out shot after she has the other pups and put her on antibodies.
I wish you both well and that she hangs on to the other pups she is carrying.

HillbillyBelle · 09-23-2008, 09:04 PM

I would advise that you take that mom to the emergency vet ASAP. The discharge indicates something is going on and it needs to be looked at. The puppies could aspirate the meconium and develop pneumonia or worse. A placenta might have separated (called placenta abruptio) and the puppies will not be able to breathe in the uterus. This is the advice I give when I am mentoring a nervous whelping midwife.
The vet would be able to manage this situation with a c-section or OXY. Anyhow, the mom probably will need a clean out shot.
We are sending prayers to you and those babies.

09-23-2008, 05:50 PM	#16
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	wow. I know nothing about breeding but i'll be praying for the safety of Gracie and her pups! please keep us posted! __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

09-23-2008, 05:59 PM	#17
altigger74 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,523	thank you and I will. The computer is here next to us while we wait. __________________ Mommy of Cody,Gracie,Bella,2labs,1cat, 2 skinkids one Angel Baby Boy 8/8/09 I carried you under my heart for 20 weeks and will carry you in my heart forever

09-23-2008, 06:04 PM	#18
TeddyBear Hey Cutie! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,677	I hope everything goes okay. I'll keep checking the forum for updates. Fingers are crossed and hands are folded praying. __________________ Love, Leigh, Starsky and Shylah: You can never get enough Yorkie kisses!!! Proud member of the CrAzYcLuB http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/DenverYorkies/

09-23-2008, 06:07 PM	#19
peanut Dogs Rule Cats Drool! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 7,895	What is she doing now, is she discharging or panting __________________ KIM

09-23-2008, 06:15 PM	#22
altigger74 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,523	She was bred Aug 11, 12, and 13 which should put them due on Oct 14 I just started recording the temp today. I was planning on starting that in Oct. __________________ Mommy of Cody,Gracie,Bella,2labs,1cat, 2 skinkids one Angel Baby Boy 8/8/09 I carried you under my heart for 20 weeks and will carry you in my heart forever

09-23-2008, 06:08 PM	#20
PANAMA69 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ~~YorkieWorld~~ Posts: 8,428	I don't know either anything about breeding but I sure hope also that everything turn out fine for her and the puppies

09-23-2008, 06:38 PM	#25
delisa2850 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pocatello, ID, USA Posts: 414	Prayers from Idaho right now for you and Gracie and her little ones. Hang in there! __________________ DeLisa Roxy and Oakley

09-23-2008, 07:06 PM	#27
luckylady Living My Yorkie Dream Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,114 Blog Entries: 6	I'm just getting ready to sign off and head for bed as I see this thread. I will say some extra prayers tonight for you, Gracie, and her babies and will check back in the morning. __________________ Rose Lucky,Toby, Hannah,Camie, & Reggie Heartland Biewers and Yorkies

09-23-2008, 08:01 PM	#28
altigger74 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,523	Thank you everyone! She has been calm for the past hour. She was discharging some black goop but no major pushing. I'm wondering if maybe she was expelling some of the babies that never formed or started to disolve. He** I don't know anymore. With the stethiscope we can still hear two heartbeats. I will call the vet in the morning and see what he says. __________________ Mommy of Cody,Gracie,Bella,2labs,1cat, 2 skinkids one Angel Baby Boy 8/8/09 I carried you under my heart for 20 weeks and will carry you in my heart forever

09-23-2008, 08:38 PM	#29
yorkiegirl2 YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,394	I’m sorry but it sounds like there is a placenta detachment. I hope that it does not cause a domino effect, that causes the others to detach too. I had a girl that did the same thing. She had the green and black discharge 2-3 weeks early. She did not go into labor and no pup was born so I know she had absorbed it. She did go on to carried the other 2 pups to term. She expelled 2 placentas at birth but retain the other. My Vet said to wait and see if the other came out so I didn’t get the clean out shot and it set up a uterine infection that I believe damaged one of her horns. Just be sure to keep check on her if she does not expel the pup she is losing and the placenta . Have your Vet to give her the clean out shot after she has the other pups and put her on antibodies. I wish you both well and that she hangs on to the other pups she is carrying.

09-23-2008, 09:04 PM	#30
HillbillyBelle Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: MD Posts: 111	I would advise that you take that mom to the emergency vet ASAP. The discharge indicates something is going on and it needs to be looked at. The puppies could aspirate the meconium and develop pneumonia or worse. A placenta might have separated (called placenta abruptio) and the puppies will not be able to breathe in the uterus. This is the advice I give when I am mentoring a nervous whelping midwife. The vet would be able to manage this situation with a c-section or OXY. Anyhow, the mom probably will need a clean out shot. We are sending prayers to you and those babies.