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Old 01-02-2007, 02:36 PM   #46
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Just to add my 2cents worth.

I think she was led to believe that "teacups" were a separate breed, and she thought she was buying one, therefore when it got to be over 7 pounds she felt she had been scammed.

So in her saying she wanted a "good one" perhaps, she simply meant she wanted what she thought she was buying, not realizing that they don't exist. That the word is just a description, not a breed. She had no idea that "teacups" are not a separate breed.

As for her be willing to take the runt of the litter, well someone has to give them a home too.

That is the problem with using that term when you are selling. It makes people believe that it is a separate breed, not just a size description.

There is nothing wrong with the term in itself, it's the way it is used to extort money out of people that is wrong.

[B]When someon is selling one and describing it as a "teacup" they deserve to be bashed.

When someone is buying looking for a "teacup" they need to be educated so they aren't taken in by some slick advertising.

VERY WELL SAID.
IF everyone stayed silent over certain words - then how are people new to yorkies ever going to know ??

I remember back when this site opened it was to share and LEARN about yorkies - telling someone there is no such breed as a teacup yorkie is helping them ....if it's said in the right way it shouldn't cause so much drama.
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My 2 cents..........just as much as people get educated that there is no such thing as a teacup.........there are those who get offended and 'defend' that person claiming they are being slammed or such. (note, that the person needs not be defended as there is no arguing going on). To me, this is what starts all the controversies.

I just don't get it..........LEARNING should be fun. For the most part, many people here educate in a nice way and with their hearts at hand!

Anyhow, to the original poster..........good luck finding that small pet you want. If you haven't done so, please do some searching about the breed and most of your questions will be self-answered

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VERY WELL SAID.
IF everyone stayed silent over certain words - then how are people new to yorkies ever going to know ??

I remember back when this site opened it was to share and LEARN about yorkies - telling someone there is no such breed as a teacup yorkie is helping them ....if it's said in the right way it shouldn't cause so much drama.
That's right Villette! take us to the YT roots!
I know it really sounded bad when she said "a good one", but I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that her yorkie is not "a great one".
Always check if the member is pretty new, don't be harsh!!! We don't want to scare people away! They just need guidance, that's why we are here!
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That's right Villette! take us to the YT roots!
I know it really sounded bad when she said "a good one", but I'm pretty sure she didn't mean that her yorkie is not "a great one".
Always check if the member is pretty new, don't be harsh!!! We don't want to scare people away! They just need guidance, that's why we are here!
LOL !!!! I tried. I didn't think anyone really pays attention to my posts on this subject..

I agree with you, Jessy_RN2B and Jeannie - it's ok to correct people IF done in a nice way. It shouldn't be a controversary - when I started looking for Yorkies I looked for a Teacup too and was on the sites that scream TEACUP all over the place....someone helped ME a long time ago so hopefully we can all help the next person.....We all have to learn somewhere and why not here ???
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VERY WELL SAID.
IF everyone stayed silent over certain words - then how are people new to yorkies ever going to know ??

I remember back when this site opened it was to share and LEARN about yorkies - telling someone there is no such breed as a teacup yorkie is helping them ....if it's said in the right way it shouldn't cause so much drama.
Amen.. I agree. there is no breed teacup. to me I know its just the size they are saying.. and they try to get big bucks for the word.. I don't thank that is right.. but they do..
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LOL !!!! I tried. I didn't think anyone really pays attention to my posts on this subject..

I agree with you, Jessy_RN2B and Jeannie - it's ok to correct people IF done in a nice way. It shouldn't be a controversary - when I started looking for Yorkies I looked for a Teacup too and was on the sites that scream TEACUP all over the place....someone helped ME a long time ago so hopefully we can all help the next person.....We all have to learn somewhere and why not here ???
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VERY WELL SAID.
IF everyone stayed silent over certain words - then how are people new to yorkies ever going to know ??

I remember back when this site opened it was to share and LEARN about yorkies - telling someone there is no such breed as a teacup yorkie is helping them ....if it's said in the right way it shouldn't cause so much drama.

I agree! When I first started researching yorkies, the VERY 1ST thing I learned was that there are no teacups. I learned this from friends, internet research, and yorkietalk. I mean it was everywhere, alls I read was "teacups are a selling term to get more money", "there is no such breed as a teacup". If this lady has had a yorkie already though, and done any amount of research (isn't that what your supposed to do when you buy a dog) I can't understand how she did not come across the teacup memo
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There is no way to predict how large a yorkie will be as an adult until they are an adult. Cozy was the runt of her litter and she is currently 10.5 pounds. There is no such thing as a teacup yorkie. I know that some breeders will take their yorkies out of the gene pool because they are too small to be bred. You could try contacting repetuable breeders and see if they have any young but adult sized yorkies that they are adopting out.
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there is no guarentee in size 7 lbs is a standard yorkie you never kno exactly what size they will be
We only have AKC (American Kennel Club) Pups, so I can tell you AKC standard size is 4-7 pounds, but we do have some under that. But we will NEVER tell someone it is a teacup, to tug at their heart and purse strings in one tug. Good Day...justus www.akc-yorkie-r-us.com
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We only have AKC (American Kennel Club) Pups, so I can tell you AKC standard size is 4-7 pounds, but we do have some under that. But we will NEVER tell someone it is a teacup, to tug at their heart and purse strings in one tug. Good Day...justus www.akc-yorkie-r-us.com
may I ask what size was the mommy and daddy that had the very little one. why would only one be so small? My daddy to my babies is 2 1/2 pound all of the puppys are very small just an oz in size bigger or smaller. is it the lasts one born? I am asking because I myself haven't had this happen before. Mine, like I said all are born about 2oz to 3oz when born.

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There are alot of yorkie owners that have the so called "teacups" and good ones at that!!!!! Im one of them. There are alot of yorkies who are 10 lbs or more that have health problems. What if us "teacup" owners looked down on owners who have oversized small breeds that exceed the standard weight?
I agree with you on this to the point that it does not matter the size as all yorkies can have health problems. Some on here will tell you 10 pounders are good ones when according to AKC standards a yorkie is up to 7 pounds by their standards. This argument has went on and on on this site and I am here to say if someone doesn't like a term someone else is using then do not reply to them. That way there would not be any arguments.
I do not agree with the term teacup but I do agree with having the smaller in size yorkies, like 2 pounds and up as I have several. It is all in what people call their small little ones, nothing more in my opinion.
You can pm me if you are wating a smaller yorkie as I know a few people who have them and are good BREEDERS with good ethics.
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I can tell you AKC standard size is 4-7 pounds, but we do have some under that. But we will NEVER tell someone it is a teacup, to tug at their heart and purse strings in one tug. Good Day...justus www.akc-yorkie-r-us.com
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#1 - Reminding that the AKC standard is 4 - 7 pounds. NOT "anything under 7lbs", as I've seen stated here recently
#2 - For not using your under-standard sized pups to fatten the bank account. That is - IF you don't charge more than the standard pups go for...??
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#1 - Reminding that the AKC standard is 4 - 7 pounds. NOT "anything under 7lbs", as I've seen stated here recently
#2 - For not using your under-standard sized pups to fatten the bank account. That is - IF you don't charge more than the standard pups go for...??

To be exact AKC standards for the Yorkshire Terrier says; weight...must not exceed seven pounds.

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Toy Group

General Appearance
That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well proportioned. The dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self-importance.

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Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparkling with a sharp, intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped, carried erect and set not too far apart.

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Well proportioned and very compact. The back is rather short, the back line level, with height at shoulder the same as at the rump.

Legs and Feet
Forelegs should be straight, elbows neither in nor out. Hind legs straight when viewed from behind, but stifles are moderately bent when viewed from the sides. Feet are round with black toenails. Dewclaws, if any, are generally removed from the hind legs. Dewclaws on the forelegs may be removed.

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Docked to a medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.

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Quality, texture and quantity of coat are of prime importance. Hair is glossy, fine and silky in texture. Coat on the body is moderately long and perfectly straight (not wavy). It may be trimmed to floor length to give ease of movement and a neater appearance, if desired. The fall on the head is long, tied with one bow in center of head or parted in the middle and tied with two bows. Hair on muzzle is very long. Hair should be trimmed short on tips of ears and may be trimmed on feet to give them a neat appearance.

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Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply:

Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs.

Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.

Color on Body
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.

Headfall
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.

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Must not exceed seven pounds.

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#1 - Reminding that the AKC standard is 4 - 7 pounds. NOT "anything under 7lbs", as I've seen stated here recently
No, I'm sorry, you are wrong. AKC states "must not exceed 7 pounds"
Here is the link to their site...it's the very last sentence on the page.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/yorkshire_terrier/index.cfm

So, I'm not sure where you are getting the 4 pound minimum.

It may be the average, but it is not the standard.
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yes but im sure you wouldnt think your old ones arent good ones
i dont believe in the word teacup some people use it some dont all size yorkies are still just yorkies
and i think there ALL GOOD ONES !
I know I have been prone to calling my small one's Tiny's..:Looks around: I could be put on the block for that technically. ha ha But I believe for myself, that a 5-6 pound female and a small male is sufficient in breeding practice..for me. This way I do get Tiny's, and I also get mid size...ha ha I feel I am talking cars now) I don't need any Tiny's (but I do thank you for the info) as we do breed our Family pets, not to be a kennel. Minus giving table scraps, we have never had any of our babies get over the 6 pound mark, but you have to spoil them a bit, they do spoil us. Thanks again for your feedback. justus Kirk and Mary www.akc-yorkie-r-us.com
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