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08-27-2013, 11:44 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| Young adult Yorkie wanted in upstate NY I live in upstate New York and would love to adopt a Yorkie who needs a good home. I have been through the puppy stage more times than I can count so adopting a young adult is the next best thing. I am home all day and night I don't travel. I am in my early 50's and lead a laid back life due to disability and early retirement. I don't have any children or grandchildren, I live in a pet friendly apartment complex. And would not consider moving to another apartment unless it was pet friendly. I am very much an canine advocate and have zero tolerance to animal abuse of any kind. I used to have Rottweiler's a breed I adore but living in an apartment is too difficult for that. But each of them has a part of my heart and soul. |
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08-29-2013, 10:20 AM | #2 |
YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: dearborn heights
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| Did you see this post?? http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ie-rescue.html The dog is a small 2 year old male and the person is willing to fly the dog anywhere to get it a good home. While he does have a liver shunt, it sounds like they are managing it with meds and diet, which, depending on the kind of shunt, its preferred over surgery...and it sounds like he's taking well to the medication. Have you looked on Petfinder as well?? Here are a few in the NY area just to give you an idea of what's out there...but there are lots more!! Petfinder Adoptable Dog | Yorkshire Terrier Yorkie | Cuba, NY | Jasper Jax Petfinder Adoptable Dog | Yorkshire Terrier Yorkie | Crompond, NY | Pippin and Pixie Petfinder Adoptable Dog | Yorkshire Terrier Yorkie | New York, NY | Donatella I found my Ricky on Petfinder and he's the most adorable little guy. I recently helped someone else find a dog using Petfinder as well and he is very happy with his new dog!! |
08-29-2013, 12:03 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| Thank you so much for the info but I have never ever had good luck adopting a dog through Petfinder. While I believe in adoption wholeheartedly I have been turned down so many times and have been hurt by the process. I won't go into each detail but I will give you examples let's see my home was too clean, I don't believe in overloading the dog's liver I just don't believe in heartworm medication I have had many and have never ever experienced the problem especially in the northeast. I also don't believe in flea treatment UNLESS I see flea's on my dog. I don't believe in overloading their liver's with needless meds just because that is what a vet recommends. I have had many dog's in the past and not one ever had flea's or heartworms. And as for my house being too clean I feel that was an excuse. I think rescue's are wonderful but prefer adopting from a private person so they can get to know the type of person I am vs what is on an application. This is just my opinion I will say this I am all for adopt and not shopping which is why I put this ad on the Yorkie board I just cannot go through the heartache of trying to adopt again it is just too painful. |
08-29-2013, 04:54 PM | #4 |
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| I totally hear what you are saying. I was turned down for not having a fence...and I was turned down because the lady didn't think my dog would mesh well with the little female I wanted. It took my friend and I MONTHS to find the dog he adopted a few weeks ago. When looking for both dogs, both of us encountered many occasions where we'd email someone about a dog and nobody would get back with us. A few things you may want to do is... a.) Consider a humane society adoption or a high kill shelter. The one we adopted from didn't do a background check or a home visit. They made us bring proof of residency, but that's about it. As long as we had the money and proof of residency, We got to take the dog home in the same day. Sadly, I feel like they should do more screening at the Humane Society we were at, but after seeing how many people are dropping dogs off and how busy it is, I don't think they have the time. b.) When looking on Petfinder, click on the website of the rescue if they have one...and read the fine print and the application. A lot of rescues will say up front what their requirements are. Some are harder than others. With Ricky, I emailed back and forth with the lady a few times and set up a date to go see him. I didn't know what her requirements were...or the price to adopt him as it wasn't specified...I didn't care though. I had fallen in love with him and just wanted to go see him and meet her. I ended up going to see him and taking him home in the same day. I brought my other dog to make sure they got along and I visited for a short time, filled out an application, handed her $150 and she gave me his vet records and we were on our way!! NO home visits...NO background checks or anything. I was honest about not having a fence. I was honest about my older dogs domineering personality...and was totally afraid she'd deny me, but she didn't. I think a lot of it REALLY depends on who you are dealing with. I would for sure fail some rescue's requirements...yet my dogs probably get more exercise by going on walks than they would if they had a fence... and my dogs are very spoiled and well taken care of as they are the center of my world and are my children. I am pretty sure I've seen a national rescue group on here that has rescuers on the East Coast. If I can find it, I'll point you to their web page. |
08-29-2013, 06:41 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| thank you so much that is what I do before anything is look up their adoption requirements and I find it is no wonder why rescue's are over loaded. I mean not everyone will have a fence and just because you have one doesn't mean you will love the dog more than someone who doesn't. That is what I don't get I do get the requirements to a point BUT I am a total advocate for adoptions and have zero tolerance to dog abuse of any kind. I would tell my tenants that. I always rented my apartment to someone with a dog because I found a dog and a responsible owner did not do nearly the damage as some children did. But I have know many people who would rather adopt and when they get turned down every time they give up and go to a breeder. Because honestly you can get a puppy for the same price as an adult dog who is already 5 years old. I don't know some people in rescue think they are God and sadly what they don't realize is you get your hopes up for this dog only to be shattered at the end of the process. The best luck I have had is at a Humane Society they check your license, if you rent they make sure you are allowed to have a dog and that is about it. I appreciate your reply. In fact I even tried to adopt one from Craig's List and found out tonight they adopted the Yorkie to a family with a stay at home mom and 2 older teenagers. That is fine but I honestly feel if I had not inquired I never would have known. I mean I lose sleep over stuff like this. I guess I will have to change that I have worked in rescue, I have fostered dog's and I would literally fight for them if necessary and I feel if they turn me down they are really missing out on a great owner. I had a Rottweiler who I would take a bullet for he was that awesome, much better than a husband as I knew he always had my back, always! He is at Rainbow Bridge now waiting for me. I think I loved that dog more than life itself. |
08-29-2013, 09:48 PM | #6 |
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| I don't know of any rescue that will approve an adoption to someone who does not use heartworm preventatives. I would also hope a breeder would not sell a dog to someone who refused to protect their pups. I strongly suggest you rethink this. Maybe some reading on the Heartworm Society's website might help: American Heartworm Society While there may be a lower risk where you live, there is still a risk....this link has a map of where there are cases of heartworms in the US: American Heartworm Society | What Is Heartworm Disease?
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08-29-2013, 10:59 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| Ladyjane, I am very offended by your comment. You have no idea how many dog's I have had or how many rescue's I have fostered for. In fact, I am a huge advocate for dog adoptions and I have zero tolerance for animal abuse. I don't see the need for breeder's to bring unwanted dog's into this world when thousands are euthanized every day. I do give credit to those breeder's who are trying to better the breed standard. I have however taken care of more dog's in my 53 years of life than you will own in a lifetime. I am offended but I am not angry, because every person is entitled to their opinions. I fail to see why a rescue would make heartworm medication a criteria for adoption unless you live in the south. I live in New York my dog's are house dog's and I have never, ever had a dog with heartworm. I have however taken care of a dog I adopted who had parvo, luckily for me she survived. I have also put $7,000 into my female Rottweiler who was hit by a truck because her shoulder was broken and needed surgery from an orthopedic specialist. I had taken care of that very same dog who ended up with bone cancer, spending thousands of dollars in making sure she was not in any pain. Slept on the couch when she was unable to climb the stairs to bed with me. When it was time for her to be put down I requested my vet come to my home because she was scared to death of going to the vet. I was not going to let that be her very last memory on this earth. I would give my life for a dog, regardless if it were mine or not. The reason I am explaining this is because I do not hesitate to get the very best treatment possible for one of my dog's who may be ill. I live in upstate New York near Cornell University where you get the best of best Vet care in the northeast. Now would you say I am irresponsible by not giving my dog's heartworm medication, when these very same meds are toxic to their liver? Would you still deny an adoption application knowing this about me? When I go above and beyond to provide the best veterinary care possible for my dog's? But the biggest thing I give to each and every dog is my heart and soul, without question I give 200%. And each and every dog who has passed on to Rainbow bridge is here with me in their urn's and will be buried with me. Just to further inform you most breeder's don't care what you do with their puppies. The only thing they care about is getting paid for the puppy. And I would bet, you would be surprised at how the so called "tea cup" Yorkie got so small? Some breeder's deny them puppy food to stunt it's growth. Other breeder's will breed runt's who are unhealthy to get the smallest of the small Yorkie which cost's thousands of dollars. But the biggest fallacy of all is there is no such thing as a "tea cup" Yorkie. So having said my peace I bid you a fond good night and hope to see you on the forums again sometime. Last edited by dlb19595; 08-29-2013 at 11:03 PM. |
08-30-2013, 04:03 PM | #8 | |
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1. The things I stated were fact, not just my opinion. I provided a link so that you could see that there is a chance of your pups contracting heartworms in NY. 2. I did not say you are irresponsible...I provided information for you that perhaps you read into my wording when you saw that yes indeed there are heartworms in NY? If you would call the irresponsible, then yes, I suppose you are. I would be more inclined to call you uninformed regarding the topic...which is why I posted links for you. As for heartworm preventatives killing dogs...no, that is not true. What can kill them is the treatment if they contract heartworms. 3. And, finally, yes, absolutely I would deny your application as I believe any reputable rescue would...as would a reputable breeder. You are playing with fire...it is not your life you are risking, it is your pups. Finally: I don't doubt that you love your pups and I don't doubt you do a lot for them in terms of vet care....but if you don't give heartworm preventatives it cancels the rest out in my book. Again, I suggest you read the links I provided.
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08-30-2013, 05:10 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| I have decided to take the debate about heartworm medication off line and sent Ladyjane a private email. My point of denying a loving family an opportunity to adopt a homeless pet simply because they don't use heartworm medication in a low infested area. Is thousands of unwanted dog's are stuck in high kill shelters and are being euthanized everyday because rescue's are overcrowded. By making needless requirements of their adopter's, they are actually killing more dog's than they are saving. This is just my opinion..... |
08-30-2013, 07:31 PM | #10 | |
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08-30-2013, 08:16 PM | #11 | |
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heartworms.2.jpg Here is the map that shows the prevalence of heartworms in various states. Note there are no white areas in the northeast. map.jpg
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08-30-2013, 08:46 PM | #12 |
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| I just wanted to chime in and say that I live in NJ and would never dream of leaving my babies unprotected from heartworms. Its just not worth the risk.
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08-30-2013, 09:42 PM | #13 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| If you feel the need to protect your dog's by using heartworm medication that is great, there is nothing wrong with it. However it is not a veterinary requirement like Rabies and DHLPP shot's are. Have a wonderful evening! |
08-30-2013, 10:02 PM | #14 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Corning
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| PS - How sad, more dogs die in high kill shelter's every day due to euthanasia than die of heartworm's! And most of these dog's have been through hell and have never known the love of a family and never will. The rescue's I have fostered for have never made heartworm medications a requirement. Their missions statements were to place dog's in loving and safe forever homes. Incidentally, the bare minimum is just giving a dog a rabies shot or nothing at all. |
08-30-2013, 10:28 PM | #15 | |
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Since you have such high regard for Cornell and seemed to indicate that they don't suggest HW preventatives, I figured maybe this might help you to understand the importance of protecting pups from this very real and horrible threat to their health and well being. Baker Institute : Animal Health : Canine Heartworm Quotes from that site: Canine heartworms, scientific name Dirofilara immitis and members of the nematode family, were discovered more than a century ago and were once only a problem in southern climates. Today however they are recognized as a major global parasite affecting dogs, wolves, coyotes, foxes, and occasionally cats and ferrets. Because it is such a devastating disease, veterinarians actively encourage all patients to treat and prevent heartworm using a wide variety of drugs and medications. Thankfully, modern drugs are highly effective, but it is vital that every owner remain current with preventative medication for his or her dog. Modern veterinary medicine has blessed us with a vast array of drugs to prevent heartworm infection in our dogs. The products come in many different forms, including injections, daily or monthly tablets, and monthly topical medications. Which form of prevention is right for your dog will depend upon where you live and your individual needs. Your veterinarian will be more than happy to provide you with the information you need to decide upon the proper course of prevention. What is most important is that preventative measures are taken, as heartworms can be devastating to your dog’s health.
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