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Old 05-12-2011, 03:27 PM   #16
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I just love how judge mental alot of you are. I have posted 3 times I think maybe and always rude replies .I would never hurt anything. I wouldn't just try something for fun. I get attached to my dogs. If something happened because of me I would hate myself. My dogs are just like my kids a part of the family. I would do nothing to disrespect them. You have no clue who Ive talked to . I just wan't to find a Female yorkie that is Show quality AKC standers for my daughter. So if I do Breed them there not crap dogs like all yall get mad at everyone for making. Money is no issue if it was I would not have 4 kids. I have one beautiful Yorkie. I'm very prod of . AKC breeder rights for $750.00. Champion blood lines yea hard to find, took a year, but can if you take your time. I have up to 3,000 to spend on a female don't really want to spend that much but thats what I have up for her. I thought i could get pointed in the right direction from yall. I got some good info already from some thanks. I know I can find what My daughter and I want. With or with out your help. Thank you.
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I just love how judge mental alot of you are. I have posted 3 times I think maybe and always rude replies .I would never hurt anything. I wouldn't just try something for fun. I get attached to my dogs. If something happened because of me I would hate myself. My dogs are just like my kids a part of the family. I would do nothing to disrespect them. You have no clue who Ive talked to . I just wan't to find a Female yorkie that is Show quality AKC standers for my daughter. So if I do Breed them there not crap dogs like all yall get mad at everyone for making. Money is no issue if it was I would not have 4 kids. I have one beautiful Yorkie. I'm very prod of . AKC breeder rights for $750.00. Champion blood lines yea hard to find, took a year, but can if you take your time. I have up to 3,000 to spend on a female don't really want to spend that much but thats what I have up for her. I thought i could get pointed in the right direction from yall. I got some good info already from some thanks. I know I can find what My daughter and I want. With or with out your help. Thank you.
Can you be more specific? Breeding rights? No show breeder who is interested in improving their line and the breed will give you full breeding rights. %750 is a good price, but you already seem to have your mind made up. Hopefully, you will have a long time to make up your mind about breeding. Are their campions in the lines? Parents, Grandparents, and back 10 generations? What about the stud? Most top breeders have their own stud. You were given good advice like a lot but will do what you want regardless. Best of luck! Maybe we will see you down the road over in the Sick and Ill section.
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Woooohaaaaaaaaaa, I was not being judge mental by any means. I don't know how you got that out of my post!! I was however, correct, you WERE looking for a female dog, AKC to BREED if you want to, as you pointed out you already have a MALE AKC dog with breeding rights!!! Please do not put words in my mouth or make it out like I was rude to you, I was not, I was just pointing out the obvious, BREEDING is hard work. IMHO not for everyone. I think if you were HONEST in your OP and said , I am looking for a female AKC dog around 5-6 pounds so I can breed her because my friends and family want a dog you would have received some opinions on that.
So in all honesty you are looking for a female dog for your daughter breeding weight so you can " decide" if you want to breed her.
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I looked on the ytca.com. It just has alot of names and numbers. It doesn't tell me who has Yorkies. If they don't have one now and will have one later. I'm am willing to wait. Do you think its ok for me just to start calling all these numbers? I had waited to get a yorkie for 6 years so expensive but finally financially able to get, Bitty at 6 months He is traditional not carrier. I took my time and looked for about 10 months to get him. I was told he would be 4.5 pounds ,but he is a 3.3lbs. Hes 9 months now didn't grow a bit. I know no one can be sure on the size. The lady I bought him from was really nice and I trusted her. I am very happy with my little love bug , He is gold and blue pretty teeth no bits and good posture. I was going to get a yorkie for my daughter 12 year old birthday, but it was yesterday. BTW she is very resposable does all her chores makes straight A's and is great with Bitty. Since it is for my daughter i really wanted to make sure it was 4.5 to 5 pounds. I'm not seared she will hurt her. Just want to be safe. So anyways I really don't want it to take another 10 months to find a yorkie. But I know what I want. I waited 6 years and 10 months for first one guess it wont hurt to wait again. Just so hard. lol. Thanks for the info.
If you are looking to have breeding right I can guarantee you that YTCA will not allow breeding right. If you read their website all dogs are to be sold on Spay/Neuter contracts. The members of the YTCA keep very tight clean lines and do not sell for breeding purposes and would never allow their lines to be mixed with just any AKC registered Yorkie. I really think you are going about your search the wrong way and need a lot more information that you are currently armed with about the breed.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:47 PM   #20
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Thanks for all the help.
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........snip........I would never hurt anything. I wouldn't just try something for fun. I get attached to my dogs. If something happened because of me I would hate myself. ......snip...........
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.....snip....I know my daughter wants one for her birthday for now. I do have two sisters, two nieces, and three daughters. All love yorkies.
I used to breed for show with another breed until a car accident intervened but here's my advice for what it's worth.

I don't believe you want to hurt anyone or anything but sadly good intentions simply aren't enough. Breeding isn't something that should be done casually to provide puppies for friends in this day and age of recessive genetic issues.

To breed responsibly you must know every dog in your dog's pedigree and know about all the progeny they have thrown. You need to understand what each line carries good and bad. That's the point of pedigrees so you can track what the genetics behind dogs are and hopefully can cross for improvement and strengthening.

Unfortunately you are describing a fairly insular situation where you provide dogs to family. So what happens when those dogs then interbreed and voila you have a close line breeding. Those are exactly the circumstances that create and strengthen these undesirable recessive traits that are tragedies just waiting to happen.

So the first step to becoming a responsible breeder who breeds for standard improvement is to apprentice with a show breeder and spend years at their side while they let you help groom and carry and go to shows and they educate about all the inside intricacies of the genetic lines.

Otherwise it's just another backyard/hobby breeder situation where you begin with good intentions and tragedy can ensue. Sadly tragedy can ensue with even the very best of intentions which I believe you have.

That's why people here may seem judgmental, when you see horror and tragedy over and over and the stories all seem to begin the same, or quite similarly, it's hard not to try and warn someone of what lies ahead especially when you've seen those little suffering brown eyes.......

If breeding interests you make connections with the responsible AKC breeders, go to shows, listen and you will learn. The dog show world is very friendly and will usually share above and beyond, they love the dogs beyond reason and love sharing their passion to the truly interested.
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I used to breed for show with another breed until a car accident intervened but here's my advice for what it's worth.

I don't believe you want to hurt anyone or anything but sadly good intentions simply aren't enough. Breeding isn't something that should be done casually to provide puppies for friends in this day and age of recessive genetic issues.

To breed responsibly you must know every dog in your dog's pedigree and know about all the progeny they have thrown. You need to understand what each line carries good and bad. That's the point of pedigrees so you can track what the genetics behind dogs are and hopefully can cross for improvement and strengthening.

Unfortunately you are describing a fairly insular situation where you provide dogs to family. So what happens when those dogs then interbreed and voila you have a close line breeding. Those are exactly the circumstances that create and strengthen these undesirable recessive traits that are tragedies just waiting to happen.

So the first step to becoming a responsible breeder who breeds for standard improvement is to apprentice with a show breeder and spend years at their side while they let you help groom and carry and go to shows and they educate about all the inside intricacies of the genetic lines.

Otherwise it's just another backyard/hobby breeder situation where you begin with good intentions and tragedy can ensue. Sadly tragedy can ensue with even the very best of intentions which I believe you have.

That's why people here may seem judgmental, when you see horror and tragedy over and over and the stories all seem to begin the same, or quite similarly, it's hard not to try and warn someone of what lies ahead especially when you've seen those little suffering brown eyes.......

If breeding interests you make connections with the responsible AKC breeders, go to shows, listen and you will learn. The dog show world is very friendly and will usually share above and beyond, they love the dogs beyond reason and love sharing their passion to the truly interested.
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I'm sorry if a post(s) seemed rude to you. I guess we tried to answer your questions w the info we were given, and different advice would have been given if we knew you were interested in a female for breeding. I recommended YTCA, but their breeders would need to get to know you and agree to mentor you before they would sell a female with unlimited registration.

I noticed on the other thread you started asking about parti registration, the same problem kind of surfaced. Ppl originally thought you were trying to register a parti you had bought, but then it turned out you were thinking of buying parti female to breed. Then it descended into breeding for partis. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ti-yorkie.html

In the future, it might help if you tell the full situation when you ask a question so it can be answered. Then ppl who answer don't feel like someone was trying to snow them, and you don't feel like ppl are typing in a rude tone. I think it would help the communication. I wish you well in finding a little one.
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No I was going to buy a, yes a female yorkie from a lady that the dad was parti. Wanted to know the deal on the partis. The partis are very pretty. I did learn alot about them. I just don't understand all the rude comments. I mean can't you get your point across with out been a troll on every post. I think I came on here being honest telling what I wanted. I did not think I would have to explain everything on here ,( would do with who I buy yorkie from) or be posted as a lier. Every question yall asked me I answered honestly. I really have a 11 year old daughter that wants a yorkie. If I can't find a yorkie with breeding rights. (Witch I can) I will still be getting my daughter a yorkie . I told yall I don't know if I want to breed. I have been doing alot of research . Not something I want to jump in to. Like I said. Someone said something about back yard breeder. And have insist pups. If I had pups It would be one or two litters. Then I would get the dogs fixed. I understand I need to learn alot more. I've been looking for a show to go to. I dont even know the right people to talk to yet. I know I have alot to learn , before I decide what I do about breeding. I may never do it. My daughter wants a yorkie. I do think it is better to get a bigger one for her and if I was to breed I would need it bigger also. I think you can breed 3rd heat to 5 years. Not something I would have to do right away. No I haven't already made up my mind. I don't think I can be in pocketpus anyways. Im not sure but doesnt your yorkie have to be 12lbs. I don't meet qualification.
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Steve is right - ytca.org and look for the breeder referral page to find reputable breeders in your state.
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Yes, you can go ahead and just call them. I have found reputable breeders to be very kind ppl. If they have none available, I'm sure they would offer you suggestions of where to turn. There are reputable breeders who do not have web sites, so don't let that throw you. Some have, some don't. They are breeding for quality in their line, not to sell puppies as a way they make their living.
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