What exactly is a parti yorkie?

[trishaandtim]

Hi, I am fairly new to raising yorkies, and I currently have one little yorkie and am currently looking for another, I am having some confusion understanding exactly what a parti yorkie, bewier yorkie is.

Ive been told that this is a cross between a Pomeranian and a yorkie, ive heard that this breweir yorkie is also sometimes called the parti yorkie, And that they cannot be registered AKC,

Ive also been told that Parti yorkie is just a color variatation of the regular yorkshire terrier and is just fine, and recognized by AKC . But I notice on my papers for my Blue and Tan yorkie that there is not even a option box to select 'party' colors.

So can someone tell me if this is an actual yorkie, or a cross breed, or a mutation, or a whole different dog, or a mutt even, and if it is AKC recogonized. Also ive heard these same kind of stories about the solid gold yorkies.

Any clarification or help is greatly appreciated,
Thanks in advance,

( dont want to be buying scam dog )

[jencar98]

Parti refers to a tri color yorkie. Many believe Biewers are tri color yorkies that are from a specific German line, originated by a man named, Werner Biewer. Some Biewer owners are trying to get the Biewer recognized as a different breed and therefore do not call them yorkies.

Below are several threads that you may want to read. If this isn't enough info, there are numerous threads on YT discussing this subject.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ti-yorkie.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ou-prefer.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...kes-parti.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ti-beiwer.html

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Parti refers to a tri color yorkie. Many believe Biewers are tri color yorkies that are from a specific German line, originated by a man named, Werner Biewer. Some Biewer owners are trying to get the Biewer recognized as a different breed and therefore do not call them yorkies.

Below are several threads that you may want to read. If this isn't enough info, there are numerous threads on YT discussing this subject.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ti-yorkie.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ou-prefer.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...kes-parti.html

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...ti-beiwer.html

Ya, refer to the threads listed above, this topic can get long and heated lol I have a parti, she's my avitar <----. It just means they have white in their coloring and AKC currently considers it a "fault" in Yorkie standards, so there won't be a spot on your AKC form although they can be registered - the papers will just say "parti" for the color, but as you will see from the threads, there's much debate there.
It's NOT a pomeranian mixed with a yorkie though.

[trishaandtim]

Hi thanks for the quick responses, I had looked into that 1st thread before I posted but it was more like a history lesson. =P

So from what I understand they are a gene issue or whatever, but if my 'standard' colored yorkie and another 'standard' colored yorkie got together, would they throw out a parti, and would it be a regular occurence. Some of these people here will have 5 yorkie pups, and 3 of them are parti colored out of the whole litter. And it will happen on more than one litter, I was just thinking, if its a recessive gene things, wouldnt it only throw out a parti maybe 1 every few generations, but some people half their pups are coming out parti colors. Same with the all gold Yorkies. and its making me leery of the sellers. Im actually not wanting the 'parti' colored Yorkies allthough they are cute. But if I ever decide to breed, I dont want it to start spitting out all parti's either.

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by trishaandtim

Hi thanks for the quick responses, I had looked into that 1st thread before I posted but it was more like a history lesson. =P

So from what I understand they are a gene issue or whatever, but if my 'standard' colored yorkie and another 'standard' colored yorkie got together, would they throw out a parti, and would it be a regular occurence. Some of these people here will have 5 yorkie pups, and 3 of them are parti colored out of the whole litter. And it will happen on more than one litter, I was just thinking, if its a recessive gene things, wouldnt it only throw out a parti maybe 1 every few generations, but some people half their pups are coming out parti colors. Same with the all gold Yorkies. and its making me leery of the sellers. Im actually not wanting the 'parti' colored Yorkies allthough they are cute. But if I ever decide to breed, I dont want it to start spitting out all parti's either.

The way I understand it, the trait would have to be in the gene pool. Most people that are intentionaly breeding partis are breeding one or both partis, but sometimes they get some traditional colored pups, especially if only one parent was a parti.
Example - my dog, her mother is "technically" considered a parti because she has white on her chest and belly, father was a traditional black/tan. Out of six puppies, 3 were just black/tan, 2 had some white on chest and belly like mom, and my dog is mostly white with black and tan face and black "spots".
If two Yorkies are being bred together and neither of them is a parti and neither were any dogs in their genetic lineage, they aren't going to just throw a parti puppy. It's not a random occurance or a "defect" that can just "show up" in breeding. Also, partis don't have any medical issues simply because they're partis, it's just a color, that's it.
You mentioned considering getting into breeding - WAIT - FIRST, there is MUCH to consider. Look through the "breeders" section here and seek the advice of professionals first.
Sounds like you're looking to purchase a Yorkie? Check the breeders section for that also and the "breeder reviews" section. You are right to be cautious about who you buy a puppy from, but you don't have to worry about getting a parti unless you are actively seeking one (which is fine).

[trishaandtim]

Thanks for the tip, Ill check the breeder section for info there. Would this same principle that you described above also apply to the solid gold, or chocolate yorkie?

[AlicetheYorkie]

Originally Posted by trishaandtim

Thanks for the tip, Ill check the breeder section for info there. Would this same principle that you described above also apply to the solid gold, or chocolate yorkie?

That I'm not sure of, but based on what I remember about genetics, I'd say yes, same rule applies, but ask the breeders.
Think of it like humans with hair and eye color, same idea.

[bchgirl]

Originally Posted by trishaandtim

Hi thanks for the quick responses, I had looked into that 1st thread before I posted but it was more like a history lesson. =P

So from what I understand they are a gene issue or whatever, but if my 'standard' colored yorkie and another 'standard' colored yorkie got together, would they throw out a parti, and would it be a regular occurence. Some of these people here will have 5 yorkie pups, and 3 of them are parti colored out of the whole litter. And it will happen on more than one litter, I was just thinking, if its a recessive gene things, wouldnt it only throw out a parti maybe 1 every few generations, but some people half their pups are coming out parti colors. Same with the all gold Yorkies. and its making me leery of the sellers. Im actually not wanting the 'parti' colored Yorkies allthough they are cute. But if I ever decide to breed, I dont want it to start spitting out all parti's either.

Unless your dogs carry the recessive pie bald gene it is impossible for them to produce a parti colored puppy.

The reason you see both colors in some litters...is because the standard colored dog carries two genes. 1 dominant (standard coloring) and 1 recessive. When bred to another dog with the same genetic make up...both must offer the recessive gene for the parti coloring to be expressed (seen).

I have seen people advertising "carriers" for sale ...puppies which are the product of two standard colored parents...and quite honestly there is no way to determine if those puppies are carriers. It is entirely possible the puppy inherited two dominant genes from the parents.

[trishaandtim]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Unless your dogs carry the recessive pie bald gene it is impossible for them to produce a parti colored puppy.

The reason you see both colors in some litters...is because the standard colored dog carries two genes. 1 dominant (standard coloring) and 1 recessive. When bred to another dog with the same genetic make up...both must offer the recessive gene for the parti coloring to be expressed (seen).

I have seen people advertising "carriers" for sale ...puppies which are the product of two standard colored parents...and quite honestly there is no way to determine if those puppies are carriers. It is entirely possible the puppy inherited two dominant genes from the parents.

So a parti and a party carrier can make parti yorkies and blue and gold yorkies but you wont know if the blue and gold pups will be parti carriers?
The reason for the question is I am supposed to buy a yorkie from a lady that has a parti yorkie male and i know she does not have a parti female . idk if she has a parti carrier but she has a litter with like 3 partis and two blue and gold. Sorry for not understanding first time you explaned

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Unless your dogs carry the recessive pie bald gene it is impossible for them to produce a parti colored puppy.

The reason you see both colors in some litters...is because the standard colored dog carries two genes. 1 dominant (standard coloring) and 1 recessive. When bred to another dog with the same genetic make up...both must offer the recessive gene for the parti coloring to be expressed (seen).

I have seen people advertising "carriers" for sale ...puppies which are the product of two standard colored parents...and quite honestly there is no way to determine if those puppies are carriers. It is entirely possible the puppy inherited two dominant genes from the parents.

It's now possible to determine if a traditional colored dog is a piebald carrier, there's a lab in Canada that can DNA test for piebald in the Yorkshire terrier!

Canine Coat and Nose Color Test (Code: C128) | Genetic Tests For Canine - HealthGene, Toronto

If a breeder is so concerned about parti showing up in their litter, they can test their dogs to determine if they carry for off colors (chocolate and gold can also be tested for).

[trishaandtim]

The reason for the question is i am supposed to buy a yorkie female from a lady that has a parti male. i know she does not have a parti female, but idk if she has a parti carrier or not. She has like 3 parti in the litter and two blue and gold , but wont know if blue and gold are carriers right? And it works same way with the other colors?

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by trishaandtim

The reason for the question is i am supposed to buy a yorkie female from a lady that has a parti male. i know she does not have a parti female, but idk if she has a parti carrier or not. She has like 3 parti in the litter and two blue and gold , but wont know if blue and gold are carriers right? And it works same way with the other colors?

If the sire of the litter is a parti, then all of the puppies have one copy of the parti gene. The mother would have to be a parti carrier in order for the parti colored pups to be in the litter - they received a copy of her recessive parti gene. The other two puppies who are blue and gold, did not receive a parti gene from mom, otherwise they'd be parti colored too.

[Teegy]

they are gorgeous lovable tricoloured doggies from the Yorkie family.
Every dog is a wolf and has been cross bred with one thing or another to get to where they are now. Why can't we all just love our babies without prejudice.
Just kidding, I think parti biewer whatever are gorgeous

[trishaandtim]

Thanks for all the info really helped.

[shodanusmc]

Just go to YTCA.org, and look for Yorkie Breeders in your area. Buy the breeder first, and then the pup.