When I put on YT that I was looking for reputable breeder in the Chicago area, I got a pm from Kim (RIP) a breeder across the country to tell me that Stardust Yorkies in my area might have something I was interested in. I contacted Susan at Stardust that evening. After a 45 minute phone conversation where she was finding out about me she told me she had a 13 month old and a 3 year old available. A few hours later I came home with Pixie the 13 month old. She was exactly what I was looking for. So while you do have to be careful, it worked out for me. You have to do your research.

One would like to think so but that's not what she said. Now she says she'd only consider someone she has to "beg" to get a dog from. And a wait list?? What's with that? I hardly would judge a dog by how hard it was to get it. There's always the first one on the list too.
Like I said I wouldn't just sell to anyone that (after learning I had pups to sell) responded. I want my pups to go to a good home, thus letting people know there is a pup available and then being selective of the buyer is how to achieve that goal. Sometimes the best lists fall apart and people get tired of waiting - so much for the list one acquired...it happens.
Of course one has to be careful, I myself have had people try to get me to sell them a dog and they were clearly scammers. If someone responds to me regarding a pup I will send them pictures, and copy of the pup's pedigree and some "general" information along with more personal contact information. If they are interested further I will assume they will (after being encouraged) to call and talk more, then after that if they'd like to see the pups they can and we go from there.
Say I only had a female available and they wanted a boy, I would then refer them to a good breeder I know that may have a boy available, etc (which would also include asking them if they prefer to be on a wait list, etc). It's a process. It starts with communication on both sides. Sometimes someone will have a pup available & call the person on their list and that person is no longer interested (for whatever their entitled reason not to be interested is), thus you now have a pup available. The next potential buyer might end up being very lucky to get the pup right at that time, so how hard it is to acquire a pup doesn't say anything about the pup's quality.
Once people on this forum know you have pups to sell, a person gets so inundated with emails from all over it's so much easy to only let those in your area actually looking know you have pups. Unless ones ships, then I'd say it'd be okay to let everyone know, but if someone doesn't ship, then why go through all that - sorting though emails, getting someone's hopes up (only to find out their location knocked them out of the running), etc
I think people should be encouraging the interested party to speak to YT members who might have pups to sell, but it seems some odd interest of some people to post misinformation making it more difficult for someone interested in getting puppy to get one. I've just yet to figure out why there's so much unsubstantiated information being posted that's all.
Is it assumed the potential buyer can't figure out a PM isn't legit?? What? Is it some people are jealous that someone has puppies for sale and they try to block the other's potential sales? Did they not do their own homework and got burned and assume all people are out to get them? It can't be for "protection" of the buyer, because if it was then only factual information would be posted (like beware of POSSIBLE scams - not all PM one's receives must be a scam)
Just hard for me to understand where people are coming from that's all.

Welcome to YT! Good luck in your search as I am sure you will find the right baby to love.

Then I assume you would not go onto a public forum, such as this and ask if someone is selling a puppy. So that would work for you, but it doesn't work for everyone.

She is a He! Actually, the first time I came here I did ask that question. I was cluessless, and I got quite a few PM's. Yes, quite a few. Prices ranged from $250 all the way up to $6000. I am thankful that I did not bite, and stuck around here and go the knowledge on what to do, and what not to do.

Now I hope you are not taking this personally or think I am singling you out. I am not. You may be a great breeder, but if you were to PM me, I would ignore you as a possible buy. Again, that is just me. As far as others, many will get burned, as have been evidenced in the sick, Injured and Health section. I will end it with these 2 words, and then not reply again in this section....Caveat Emptor

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If money is an issue, this might be why a rescue would have issue with placement. If you can't afford a Yorkie...at a rescue price...can you afford all that comes along with a Yorkie? One has to keep in mind, Rescues are in this business to find "forever" homes...and we count on families who have done their research on this breed and can shoulder the costs as they come up.

"Mr." Shodanusmc (:p)...you are exactly correct in your opinion! One of the first things I've learned about finding a good and reputable Breeder...you go to them because they never need to go to you looking to sell a puppy.

Infact, most who have good reputations for breeding to standard and of quality will often have waiting lists.;)

:):thumbup::thumbup: I guess we think alike and along the same lines. These are little breathing creatures, not a car or an Stereo System. Again. all one has to do is read the Sick and Health sections, and in some cases, ask a breeder. Unfortunatley, most people do not and many potential past and present, and future Yorkie Buyers are not aware of this forum, or what they really need to ask, and to do. It is easy getting a fog, any dog. It is harder finding the right one, and ginding that great breeder. Buy the Breeder first, and the dog second.

Ok, so that explains in part why you feel those that PM that they have a puppy available may be less than legit; however, your limited experience does not mean everyone from YT that PM's someone they have a pup available is less than reputable and you don't do the searcher any favors by implying it does. That's what I'm saying.
If I, on the other hand, were to go to a public forum and actually request if anyone had a puppy for sale would be very appreciative of all PM's - yes, then it would be up to me to go through them and speak with the people, weed out the bad, keep the good.
Caveat Emptor is an apt response, but so common, it's hardly worth the mention, as the average person is smart enough to figure it all out but why eliminate some of the really good pups out there that might be available to them because you happen to have had a bad experience (or if you simply ignored the PM's you really don't know what you would have gotten, correct (good or bad)?
I would think the responses received from here would more likely be a better shot of getting a good dog over, and to automatically exclude those PM's limits one's choices. No need for anyone to state how 7 years ago their second cousin on their Aunt Millie's side got a PM and got a sick dog, etc., etc. We all know that can happen, but it can also happen someone will get a good dog too.

It's obvious...problem is, you are a Breeder (by your own admission) and one who would cold-call a potential buyer just because you caught whiff of a sale...?

The thing is...it's Breeders who operate this way who are at the root of why Rescues keep getting calls from shelters & owner surrenders...when that great deal of a puppy turns out to be the opposite!

Excellent post! :thumbup:

Cold Call? You missed the obvious, the person is posting/requesting for a puppy of a certain type in a certain location. To pm them is to respond to their request (which isn't YOUR request, it's THEIRS).
I, for one, have often been scrolling through the new posts and see where someone wants a particular puppy in a certain locale. Because I actually care where my puppies go sometimes I think 'oh them seem nice, would be worth checking out (key words there), oh, I don't ship, no need to answer them and let them know there's a pup of the kind they are looking for available from me' (one doesn't know if someone is a good buyer for their pup until after they've spoken with them) Sometimes I see posts that turn me off.
Breeders who care about their pups want them to go to a good home preferabley early enough to establish good bonding (less likely the pup will get dumped into a shelter) --- making sure they get a good home is the priority, so obviously the bigger pool of potential buyers assures one will in all likelihood achieve that purpose. Hardly a "whiff of a sale" that was pretty funny.
The fact remains very often one has a list and the list falls apart...jeez, wish I could guarantee things like that would never happen, but since one can't often times someone just happens to have a puppy available...why wouldn't they want a potential good home to be made aware of this?
To help keep the pups from ending up in a shelter or worse - I do have a relinquish agreement and a money back guarantee if they decide they don't want the dog for any reason I will give them a percentage of their money back.
The fact is just because someone PM's you doesn't mean they are not legit...that's the facts, regardless of how some breeders sell...from lists or not isn't going to change that fact. Even if there are a 1,000 dogs in a shelter in some obscure mid west town, doesn't mean if someone PM's you they have a dog available that the dog isn't a high quality pup. The point was don't make statements that are not fact based. It is NOT a fact that if someone comes on YT and requests a puppy and receives a PM from someone that they will not get a good healthy dog. Don't go off in some other area.

Elmbrook Humane Society has a girl yorkie named Rosie she is 8 1/2 and super sweet. Very mellow doggie. Her sister was just adopted today and I saw her after she went back into the cage. This is in Brookfield WI so not to far and I think her rehoming fee is $200

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