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Davidgirl99 01-25-2011 03:33 AM

I want a Female Yorkie!
 
O.K so I looked into breeders and just cant afford their prices! I tried the resuce groups but no one responds:confused:! Help I just want a little girl to call my own. My little girl is 18 and gone away to college and boy am I lonely. Iam in chicago if anyone has any Yorkies available for a reasonable price:).

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 08:22 AM

I am in the Chicago area? What do you consider a reasonable price? You should buy from a yeputable breeder that breeds for the betterment of the breed and to the standard. Cheaper is not always better, especially if you wind up with a sickly pup, npo guarantee, no help, no mentoring, etc. Maybe wait a while so you can afford a quality pup. A good place to start is here. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club. Beware of getting PM;s from strangers just wanting to sell you a dog. Best of luck.

my2boyz 01-25-2011 08:51 AM

Good luck in your search but don't discount the boys! I have found the boys to be extremely devoted and lovable. My little Peanut would rather be with me than anywhere else in the world but my girls seem to be more attached to my husband. Megan is definitely a Daddy's girl and Maddie Jo keeps it pretty equal but Peanut is definitely a Momma's boy.

Ladymom 01-25-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3405299)
I am in the Chicago area? What do you consider a reasonable price? You should buy from a yeputable breeder that breeds for the betterment of the breed and to the standard. Cheaper is not always better, especially if you wind up with a sickly pup, npo guarantee, no help, no mentoring, etc. Maybe wait a while so you can afford a quality pup. A good place to start is here. Yorkshire Terrier Club of America About The Club. Beware of getting PM;s from strangers just wanting to sell you a dog. Best of luck.

:thumbup: Great post!

Shop for a reputable breeder, not by price. "Bargain" puppies are often no bargain in the long run as they can come with genetic time bombs for hereditary conditions Yorkies are prone to. They can break your wallet and your heart.

As Steve said, unscrupulous breeders troll our forum looking for posts like yours so they can try to sell a puppy behind the scenes. Be very wary of the messages you may get.

If you go to the top of this section, there are some wonderful threads about how to find a Yorkie puppy pinned:

Yorkies For Sale or Wanted - YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community

Teresamag 01-25-2011 09:26 AM

If you are patient very often you will find a Yorkie someone is wanting to rehome. I imagine in Chicago if you wait you can find one that way. Have you checked Craigs list? You have to be very careful in that situation about why they are rehoming their dog but it can be a source for you. Also, join in our community and you may find someone who is looking to rehome one of their pets. I believe recently there was someone in KY who wanted to rehome. I would recommend you check your local animal shelters and maybe be put on a waiting list for a Yorkie. Also, have you considered adopting a Yorkie who is being retired from a breeding home? Sometimes that works well for many people. Good luck in your search

Teresa

Teresamag 01-25-2011 09:38 AM

2 year old female looking for a home - you might want to check this out to see she would work for you.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...male-cali.html


Teresa

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 09:41 AM

Strangers just wanting to sell you a dog????? Isn't that EXACTLY what she's asking for??? By implying that someone who PM's them that the person would automatically be non-legit is misleading and untrue. You do more harm than good by making unfounded statements.
Here it is: I live in Washington state (so obviously I'm not trying to sell this person). I have exceptionally nice, well breed, of exceptional health & quality, championed sired/championed dam/ champion grandparents, et al puppies for sale. Anyone in the northwest that posts they are looking for a puppy I will PM them...for no other reason than they (by posting their location and interest in buying a puppy) have essentially requested an interest and in so many words requested I do so.
I have no desire to announce to the entire forum (though I realize I just did, but only out of necessity to stop this ridiculous "warning" and unfounded junk talk to people), so I will let those in my locale -who have specifically requested to buy a puppy know though PM that I may - or may not - have a pup that would fulfill their need/want. - guess what? I don't ship to NY, etc...so there is no reason to let the whole forum know I have puppies available. Just from minor postings I've already had so many contact wanting me to ship, etc. The seller has the right to selective posting of puppy availability.
So for heaven's sake quite telling people looking for a pup such junk that if someone PM's that person couldn't be legitimate. I don't sell to just anyone either - the potential buyer would have to meet my expectations just as much as I should meet theirs. But that is between buyer and seller and not the entire forum. And I am also acquainted with another breeder who breeds exceptional pups, thus if I can't meet a local person's need I could refer the person...who, in the end, makes the final decision whether I or another breeder is right for them.
It is one thing to state, "be careful of PM as there is the slight potential that one PMing might not be legit" which is much different from the implication that all who PM are not legit. Just please if you don't know what you're talking about and can't back it up with facts don't make wild generalized statements.

Ladymom 01-25-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Teresamag (Post 3405362)
If you are patient very often you will find a Yorkie someone is wanting to rehome. I imagine in Chicago if you wait you can find one that way. Have you checked Craigs list? You have to be very careful in that situation about why they are rehoming their dog but it can be a source for you. Also, join in our community and you may find someone who is looking to rehome one of their pets. I believe recently there was someone in KY who wanted to rehome. I would recommend you check your local animal shelters and maybe be put on a waiting list for a Yorkie. Also, have you considered adopting a Yorkie who is being retired from a breeding home? Sometimes that works well for many people. Good luck in your search

Teresa

If money is an issue, I'd be careful about adopting a rehome directly rather than through a legitimate rescue group. Rescues thoroughly vet every dog that comes in and take care of any health issues, update shots, spay, dentals, etc. The few hundred dollars they charge for adoption fees are a deal, trust me.

I adopted my Lady directly almost 11 years ago. In the first two months I spent $800 (it would probably be double that today!) on the basics like a dental, bloodwork, etc. She was relatively healthy, too. It can get much more expensive if it turns out the dog has bad knees requiring surgery, or any number of things.

Do keep in mind that owning a dog is expensive. The purchase price, no matter what is is, is small compared to what you will spend over its lifetime. For example, Yorkie's are prone to pancreatitis. Should a guest slip her a piece of ham, he could end up in the ER with a $1,000 (minimum) vet bill. Dentals in New York can run $500 and some Yorkies need them yearly.

Yorkiedaze 01-25-2011 11:02 AM

Kjcmsw, I'm sure that Shodanusmc isn't referring to the emails from people here on YT. There have been too many people getting emails from strangers that "claim" they only want shipping charges (sent Western Union) to send them a pet, but if anyone does send them money, they never hear from those crooks again. I'm sure that is what she was referring to.

gemy 01-25-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Davidgirl99 (Post 3405157)
O.K so I looked into breeders and just cant afford their prices! I tried the resuce groups but no one responds:confused:! Help I just want a little girl to call my own. My little girl is 18 and gone away to college and boy am I lonely. Iam in chicago if anyone has any Yorkies available for a reasonable price:).

There is a sticky in the YT library called : the Cost of Owning a Dog" for our Yorkie breed especially the initial purchase price is very small, compared to the lifetime cost of the dog.

Spend the time to learn more about the breed here on the forum. Learn the health concerns of Yorkies, there are many posts about that here; also you can visit the sick and emergency forum to see the "real" day to day cost of owning and loving a Yorkie with health problems.

A Yorkie is a 12-17 year commitment of time and responsibility on you the purchasers part; so you do want to be sure this is the breed you want, that you are prepared to enter into this long term commitment emotionally, physically and financially.

Go to some shows there is a big one in your area coming up soon; to see the listing of AKC shows go to www.akc.org and do a search for your state and see the upcoming conformation shows that mayhap be nearby to you.
Here at the shows you can meet the breeders and see some Yorkies in person.
If you are thinking about a trip to NYC go in Feb especially Feb 10th to 12th where there are several specialities for Yorkies happening at the New Yorker and Penn Hotel. Lots and lots of Yorkies and breeders to meet.

Find a reputable breeder first, develp a knowledge of them, get on a wait list and be fully screened by the breeder as you will fully screen them. Waiting is hard I know, but there are many opportunities that can come your way if you've done your homework and have passed muster with a good breeder. As someone mentioned, sometimes you can get an older male/female being retired from breeding or an older puppy or very young adult dog from a breeder. And the cost might be just way less than you think.

fill in the applications for rescues, adopting a rescue dog is a pretty good bet, as they should be throughly vet checked, and all health concerns addressed and or resolved prior to placement.


good luck with your search

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3405377)
Strangers just wanting to sell you a dog????? Isn't that EXACTLY what she's asking for??? By implying that someone who PM's them that the person would automatically be non-legit is misleading and untrue. You do more harm than good by making unfounded statements.

Here it is: I live in Washington state (so obviously I'm not trying to sell this person). I have exceptionally nice, well breed, of exceptional health & quality, championed sired/championed dam/ champion grandparents, et al puppies for sale. Anyone in the northwest that posts they are looking for a puppy I will PM them...for no other reason than they (by posting their location and interest in buying a puppy) have essentially requested an interest and in so many words requested I do so.
I have no desire to announce to the entire forum (though I realize I just did, but only out of necessity to stop this ridiculous "warning" and unfounded junk talk to people), so I will let those in my locale -who have specifically requested to buy a puppy know though PM that I may - or may not - have a pup that would fulfill their need/want. - guess what? I don't ship to NY, etc...so there is no reason to let the whole forum know I have puppies available. Just from minor postings I've already had so many contact wanting me to ship, etc. The seller has the right to selective posting of puppy availability.
So for heaven's sake quite telling people looking for a pup such junk that if someone PM's that person couldn't be legitimate. I don't sell to just anyone either - the potential buyer would have to meet my expectations just as much as I should meet theirs. But that is between buyer and seller and not the entire forum. And I am also acquainted with another breeder who breeds exceptional pups, thus if I can't meet a local person's need I could refer the person...who, in the end, makes the final decision whether I or another breeder is right for them.

It is one thing to state, "be careful of PM as there is the slight potential that one PMing might not be legit" which is much different from the implication that all who PM are not legit. Just please if you don't know what you're talking about and can't back it up with facts don't make wild generalized statements.

Are you referring to me? If so, that's ok. I will say again, be aware of any PM's you get from a person wanting to sell a dog. To me, I would not buy from a person PM'ing me. I would only buy from a person that I had to literally beg, wait, and go on a list to get a pup from. A lot of posters forum members will just hide in the back ground and then send a PM to a person that writes they are looking for a pup. Yes, you may get a good one, but you may also get a bad one. I would want references, especially is I could not meet the breeder in person, and take my time, not by from the first person to PM me. Then again, this is my opinion,. That and $2 will get you a medium starbucks.

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 11:10 AM

Here is another option.

Adopt-a-Pet.com :: Adopt One of these Great Dogs!

gemy 01-25-2011 11:10 AM

I think what for me is a "reasonable" statement about PM's, ie private messages, is the following; you might receive pm's about puppy availability from a member here on Yorkie Talk, it is always advisable to throughly research a breeder prior to making a purchase commitment. Membership on YT doesn't warrant or guarantee one way or the other about the quality of an individual member breeder.

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3405469)
I think what for me is a "reasonable" statement about PM's, ie private messages, is the following; you might receive pm's about puppy availability from a member here on Yorkie Talk, it is always advisable to throughly research a breeder prior to making a purchase commitment. Membership on YT doesn't warrant or guarantee one way or the other about the quality of an individual member breeder.

:thumbup::thumbup:

jrsygal37 01-25-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3405466)
Are you referring to me? If so, that's ok. I will say again, be aware of any PM's you get from a person wanting to sell a dog. To me, I would not buy from a person PM'ing me. I would only buy from a person that I had to literally beg, wait, and go on a list to get a pup from. A lot of posters forum members will just hide in the back ground and then send a PM to a person that writes they are looking for a pup. Yes, you may get a good one, but you may also get a bad one. I would want references, especially is I could not meet the breeder in person, and take my time, not by from the first person to PM me. Then again, this is my opinion,. That and $2 will get you a medium starbucks.

Mmm, Starbucks. :p Great Post Steve :thumbup:

Patti 01-25-2011 12:14 PM

When I put on YT that I was looking for reputable breeder in the Chicago area, I got a pm from Kim (RIP) a breeder across the country to tell me that Stardust Yorkies in my area might have something I was interested in. I contacted Susan at Stardust that evening. After a 45 minute phone conversation where she was finding out about me she told me she had a 13 month old and a 3 year old available. A few hours later I came home with Pixie the 13 month old. She was exactly what I was looking for. So while you do have to be careful, it worked out for me. You have to do your research.

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 3405461)
Kjcmsw, I'm sure that Shodanusmc isn't referring to the emails from people here on YT. There have been too many people getting emails from strangers that "claim" they only want shipping charges (sent Western Union) to send them a pet, but if anyone does send them money, they never hear from those crooks again. I'm sure that is what she was referring to.

One would like to think so but that's not what she said. Now she says she'd only consider someone she has to "beg" to get a dog from. And a wait list?? What's with that? I hardly would judge a dog by how hard it was to get it. There's always the first one on the list too.
Like I said I wouldn't just sell to anyone that (after learning I had pups to sell) responded. I want my pups to go to a good home, thus letting people know there is a pup available and then being selective of the buyer is how to achieve that goal. Sometimes the best lists fall apart and people get tired of waiting - so much for the list one acquired...it happens.
Of course one has to be careful, I myself have had people try to get me to sell them a dog and they were clearly scammers. If someone responds to me regarding a pup I will send them pictures, and copy of the pup's pedigree and some "general" information along with more personal contact information. If they are interested further I will assume they will (after being encouraged) to call and talk more, then after that if they'd like to see the pups they can and we go from there.
Say I only had a female available and they wanted a boy, I would then refer them to a good breeder I know that may have a boy available, etc (which would also include asking them if they prefer to be on a wait list, etc). It's a process. It starts with communication on both sides. Sometimes someone will have a pup available & call the person on their list and that person is no longer interested (for whatever their entitled reason not to be interested is), thus you now have a pup available. The next potential buyer might end up being very lucky to get the pup right at that time, so how hard it is to acquire a pup doesn't say anything about the pup's quality.
Once people on this forum know you have pups to sell, a person gets so inundated with emails from all over it's so much easy to only let those in your area actually looking know you have pups. Unless ones ships, then I'd say it'd be okay to let everyone know, but if someone doesn't ship, then why go through all that - sorting though emails, getting someone's hopes up (only to find out their location knocked them out of the running), etc
I think people should be encouraging the interested party to speak to YT members who might have pups to sell, but it seems some odd interest of some people to post misinformation making it more difficult for someone interested in getting puppy to get one. I've just yet to figure out why there's so much unsubstantiated information being posted that's all.
Is it assumed the potential buyer can't figure out a PM isn't legit?? What? Is it some people are jealous that someone has puppies for sale and they try to block the other's potential sales? Did they not do their own homework and got burned and assume all people are out to get them? It can't be for "protection" of the buyer, because if it was then only factual information would be posted (like beware of POSSIBLE scams - not all PM one's receives must be a scam)
Just hard for me to understand where people are coming from that's all.

n2cm 01-25-2011 12:51 PM

Welcome to YT! Good luck in your search as I am sure you will find the right baby to love.

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3405466)
Are you referring to me? If so, that's ok. I will say again, be aware of any PM's you get from a person wanting to sell a dog. To me, I would not buy from a person PM'ing me. I would only buy from a person that I had to literally beg, wait, and go on a list to get a pup from. A lot of posters forum members will just hide in the back ground and then send a PM to a person that writes they are looking for a pup. Yes, you may get a good one, but you may also get a bad one. I would want references, especially is I could not meet the breeder in person, and take my time, not by from the first person to PM me. Then again, this is my opinion,. That and $2 will get you a medium starbucks.

Then I assume you would not go onto a public forum, such as this and ask if someone is selling a puppy. So that would work for you, but it doesn't work for everyone.

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3405547)
Then I assume you would not go onto a public forum, such as this and ask if someone is selling a puppy. So that would work for you, but it doesn't work for everyone.

She is a He! Actually, the first time I came here I did ask that question. I was cluessless, and I got quite a few PM's. Yes, quite a few. Prices ranged from $250 all the way up to $6000. I am thankful that I did not bite, and stuck around here and go the knowledge on what to do, and what not to do.

Now I hope you are not taking this personally or think I am singling you out. I am not. You may be a great breeder, but if you were to PM me, I would ignore you as a possible buy. Again, that is just me. As far as others, many will get burned, as have been evidenced in the sick, Injured and Health section. I will end it with these 2 words, and then not reply again in this section....Caveat Emptor

miabellaamoure 01-25-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 3405420)
If money is an issue, I'd be careful about adopting a rehome directly rather than through a legitimate rescue group. Rescues thoroughly vet every dog that comes in and take care of any health issues, update shots, spay, dentals, etc. The few hundred dollars they charge for adoption fees are a deal, trust me.

I adopted my Lady directly almost 11 years ago. In the first two months I spent $800 (it would probably be double that today!) on the basics like a dental, bloodwork, etc. She was relatively healthy, too. It can get much more expensive if it turns out the dog has bad knees requiring surgery, or any number of things.

Do keep in mind that owning a dog is expensive. The purchase price, no matter what is is, is small compared to what you will spend over its lifetime. For example, Yorkie's are prone to pancreatitis. Should a guest slip her a piece of ham, he could end up in the ER with a $1,000 (minimum) vet bill. Dentals in New York can run $500 and some Yorkies need them yearly.

BBM

If money is an issue, this might be why a rescue would have issue with placement. If you can't afford a Yorkie...at a rescue price...can you afford all that comes along with a Yorkie? One has to keep in mind, Rescues are in this business to find "forever" homes...and we count on families who have done their research on this breed and can shoulder the costs as they come up.

miabellaamoure 01-25-2011 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3405466)
Are you referring to me? If so, that's ok. I will say again, be aware of any PM's you get from a person wanting to sell a dog. To me, I would not buy from a person PM'ing me. I would only buy from a person that I had to literally beg, wait, and go on a list to get a pup from. A lot of posters forum members will just hide in the back ground and then send a PM to a person that writes they are looking for a pup. Yes, you may get a good one, but you may also get a bad one. I would want references, especially is I could not meet the breeder in person, and take my time, not by from the first person to PM me. Then again, this is my opinion,. That and $2 will get you a medium starbucks.

"Mr." Shodanusmc (:p)...you are exactly correct in your opinion! One of the first things I've learned about finding a good and reputable Breeder...you go to them because they never need to go to you looking to sell a puppy.

Infact, most who have good reputations for breeding to standard and of quality will often have waiting lists.;)

shodanusmc 01-25-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3405564)
"Mr." Shodanusmc (:p)...you are exactly correct in your opinion! One of the first things I've learned about finding a good and reputable Breeder...you go to them because they never need to go to you looking to sell a puppy.

Infact, most who have good reputations for breeding to standard and of quality will often have waiting lists.;)

:):thumbup::thumbup: I guess we think alike and along the same lines. These are little breathing creatures, not a car or an Stereo System. Again. all one has to do is read the Sick and Health sections, and in some cases, ask a breeder. Unfortunatley, most people do not and many potential past and present, and future Yorkie Buyers are not aware of this forum, or what they really need to ask, and to do. It is easy getting a fog, any dog. It is harder finding the right one, and ginding that great breeder. Buy the Breeder first, and the dog second.

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc (Post 3405555)
She is a He! Actually, the first time I came here I did ask that question. I was cluessless, and I got quite a few PM's. Yes, quite a few. Prices ranged from $250 all the way up to $6000. I am thankful that I did not bite, and stuck around here and go the knowledge on what to do, and what not to do.

Now I hope you are not taking this personally or think I am singling you out. I am not. You may be a great breeder, but if you were to PM me, I would ignore you as a possible buy. Again, that is just me. As far as others, many will get burned, as have been evidenced in the sick, Injured and Health section. I will end it with these 2 words, and then not reply again in this section....Caveat Emptor

Ok, so that explains in part why you feel those that PM that they have a puppy available may be less than legit; however, your limited experience does not mean everyone from YT that PM's someone they have a pup available is less than reputable and you don't do the searcher any favors by implying it does. That's what I'm saying.
If I, on the other hand, were to go to a public forum and actually request if anyone had a puppy for sale would be very appreciative of all PM's - yes, then it would be up to me to go through them and speak with the people, weed out the bad, keep the good.
Caveat Emptor is an apt response, but so common, it's hardly worth the mention, as the average person is smart enough to figure it all out but why eliminate some of the really good pups out there that might be available to them because you happen to have had a bad experience (or if you simply ignored the PM's you really don't know what you would have gotten, correct (good or bad)?
I would think the responses received from here would more likely be a better shot of getting a good dog over, and to automatically exclude those PM's limits one's choices. No need for anyone to state how 7 years ago their second cousin on their Aunt Millie's side got a PM and got a sick dog, etc., etc. We all know that can happen, but it can also happen someone will get a good dog too.

miabellaamoure 01-25-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kjcmsw (Post 3405539)
One would like to think so but that's not what she said. Now she says she'd only consider someone she has to "beg" to get a dog from. And a wait list?? What's with that? I hardly would judge a dog by how hard it was to get it. There's always the first one on the list too.
Like I said I wouldn't just sell to anyone that (after learning I had pups to sell) responded. I want my pups to go to a good home, thus letting people know there is a pup available and then being selective of the buyer is how to achieve that goal. Sometimes the best lists fall apart and people get tired of waiting - so much for the list one acquired...it happens.
Of course one has to be careful, I myself have had people try to get me to sell them a dog and they were clearly scammers. If someone responds to me regarding a pup I will send them pictures, and copy of the pup's pedigree and some "general" information along with more personal contact information. If they are interested further I will assume they will (after being encouraged) to call and talk more, then after that if they'd like to see the pups they can and we go from there.
Say I only had a female available and they wanted a boy, I would then refer them to a good breeder I know that may have a boy available, etc (which would also include asking them if they prefer to be on a wait list, etc). It's a process. It starts with communication on both sides. Sometimes someone will have a pup available & call the person on their list and that person is no longer interested (for whatever their entitled reason not to be interested is), thus you now have a pup available. The next potential buyer might end up being very lucky to get the pup right at that time, so how hard it is to acquire a pup doesn't say anything about the pup's quality.
Once people on this forum know you have pups to sell, a person gets so inundated with emails from all over it's so much easy to only let those in your area actually looking know you have pups. Unless ones ships, then I'd say it'd be okay to let everyone know, but if someone doesn't ship, then why go through all that - sorting though emails, getting someone's hopes up (only to find out their location knocked them out of the running), etc
I think people should be encouraging the interested party to speak to YT members who might have pups to sell, but it seems some odd interest of some people to post misinformation making it more difficult for someone interested in getting puppy to get one. I've just yet to figure out why there's so much unsubstantiated information being posted that's all.
Is it assumed the potential buyer can't figure out a PM isn't legit?? What? Is it some people are jealous that someone has puppies for sale and they try to block the other's potential sales? Did they not do their own homework and got burned and assume all people are out to get them? It can't be for "protection" of the buyer, because if it was then only factual information would be posted (like beware of POSSIBLE scams - not all PM one's receives must be a scam)
Just hard for me to understand where people are coming from that's all.

It's obvious...problem is, you are a Breeder (by your own admission) and one who would cold-call a potential buyer just because you caught whiff of a sale...?

The thing is...it's Breeders who operate this way who are at the root of why Rescues keep getting calls from shelters & owner surrenders...when that great deal of a puppy turns out to be the opposite!

Ladymom 01-25-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3405573)
It's obvious...problem is, you are a Breeder (by your own admission) and one who would cold-call a potential buyer just because you caught whiff of a sale...?

The thing is...it's Breeders who operate this way who are at the root of why Rescues keep getting calls from shelters & owner surrenders...when that great deal of a puppy turns out to be the opposite!

Excellent post! :thumbup:

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3405573)
It's obvious...problem is, you are a Breeder (by your own admission) and one who would cold-call a potential buyer just because you caught whiff of a sale...?

The thing is...it's Breeders who operate this way who are at the root of why Rescues keep getting calls from shelters & owner surrenders...when that great deal of a puppy turns out to be the opposite!


Cold Call? You missed the obvious, the person is posting/requesting for a puppy of a certain type in a certain location. To pm them is to respond to their request (which isn't YOUR request, it's THEIRS).
I, for one, have often been scrolling through the new posts and see where someone wants a particular puppy in a certain locale. Because I actually care where my puppies go sometimes I think 'oh them seem nice, would be worth checking out (key words there), oh, I don't ship, no need to answer them and let them know there's a pup of the kind they are looking for available from me' (one doesn't know if someone is a good buyer for their pup until after they've spoken with them) Sometimes I see posts that turn me off.
Breeders who care about their pups want them to go to a good home preferabley early enough to establish good bonding (less likely the pup will get dumped into a shelter) --- making sure they get a good home is the priority, so obviously the bigger pool of potential buyers assures one will in all likelihood achieve that purpose. Hardly a "whiff of a sale" that was pretty funny.
The fact remains very often one has a list and the list falls apart...jeez, wish I could guarantee things like that would never happen, but since one can't often times someone just happens to have a puppy available...why wouldn't they want a potential good home to be made aware of this?
To help keep the pups from ending up in a shelter or worse - I do have a relinquish agreement and a money back guarantee if they decide they don't want the dog for any reason I will give them a percentage of their money back.
The fact is just because someone PM's you doesn't mean they are not legit...that's the facts, regardless of how some breeders sell...from lists or not isn't going to change that fact. Even if there are a 1,000 dogs in a shelter in some obscure mid west town, doesn't mean if someone PM's you they have a dog available that the dog isn't a high quality pup. The point was don't make statements that are not fact based. It is NOT a fact that if someone comes on YT and requests a puppy and receives a PM from someone that they will not get a good healthy dog. Don't go off in some other area.

BiewerMommy 01-25-2011 05:04 PM

Elmbrook Humane Society has a girl yorkie named Rosie she is 8 1/2 and super sweet. Very mellow doggie. Her sister was just adopted today and I saw her after she went back into the cage. This is in Brookfield WI so not to far and I think her rehoming fee is $200

kjcmsw 01-25-2011 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miabellaamoure (Post 3405573)
It's obvious...problem is, you are a Breeder (by your own admission) and one who would cold-call a potential buyer just because you caught whiff of a sale...?

The thing is...it's Breeders who operate this way who are at the root of why Rescues keep getting calls from shelters & owner surrenders...when that great deal of a puppy turns out to be the opposite!


I had a litter of three pups coming. I had a wait list of 8 people. Once the pups were born and developed some we decided to sell two of them and keep one. We went through our list and decided one of those on it probably shouldn’t have been, leaving us 7 people for 2 puppies. Now since the two we were selling were boys, of those 7 only 3 wanted boys for sure and one was a maybe for a boy. That took us down to 4 people for two male pups. After careful consideration and re-reading of their “application” we settled on the two we thought would be a good fit for the two available puppies, one sold right away, the other person had since bought a dog (would have been nice if they had called us, huh? Dang, wish I could dictate people’s behavior!!!). now we have two people for one pup. Should be easy, huh? So we select the older couple. All is good they are ready to go. As a courtesy we call the remaining people and refer them to another breeder. Of those that were still interested buy from her, including our last choice (if the older couple had not have worked out) --- Now we are wanting to hold onto the pups until they are 12 weeks so the one we sold isn’t a problem they’ve paid and will pick up at 12 weeks. So what do you think happens with the older couple? The lady dies suddenly and unexpectedly. The man is too sad and the dog was for her anyway (since they had lost her beloved Yorkie the year before). Ut oh, as sad as that is, we now have a pup available.
Now, I want this pup to go to a good home. Yes, it’s important enough to me to make contact with others hoping to achieve that purpose. Go back to my list – hmm, that’s one way of finding out your referral “system” worked, eh??? (very good as it turns out) Now friends, family, breeder friend… know anyone that may be interested in a boy pup let them know we have one available and would love to speak with them (speak with them is secret talk for interview with them as to whether or not they’d be good pet owners). My own search continues - I have spoken with several people but after carefully speaking with them, none of them have been acceptable to me (I’m beginning to think I’m too picky). So, yup you guessed it…because I was NOT looking just to dump the dog off on their first person that came along…you know: “whiffing out a sale” – I still have a pup available. Oh, what to do. I’d really like to sell this puppy while he’s young (now 14+ weeks), but only to the right home. Yes, if I can’t find the perfect home we’ll keep him. But wouldn’t it be nice if I could find the perfect person who’d love and provide for him.
I don’t want to ship him across the U.S., so those nice persons who contacted me (on their own) from YT that read my other posts about puppy care, etc (knowing I had puppies) I had to tell them I don’t ship so sorry, no sale –Hmm, if I was just “whiffing out any ole sale” I could just throw him in a cargo hold…no, I don’t want to do that, but I do want to find him a semi local home. Sure hope someone just shows up, someone psychic that knows I have a puppy for sale. While waiting…you guessed it: we still have a pup available!
Hmmm, wait, Hey, here’s someone actually seeking out a puppy on a dog forum…hmmm, they’re actually in my area…I could meet them, could try to figure out if they would be a good pet owner.
Oh shucks, they don’t know I have a possible puppy available for them. Dang, what to do? Gosh, there’s just no way I could let them know because they’ve been told if someone contacts them that person is a scammer. Well, what does it matter? I’m sure they’re scammers too…after all they must be…how dare they go onto a public forum and state they want to buy a puppy…hahaha, how dare they actually expect an answer!?
Dang it…would it have been more acceptable if I had had 27 people on the list?? How about 22??? 16??? 12??? Got a number? Surely those that judge have a number for me? Give it up. Come on all you people that claim to know all these “reputable” breeders with their lists clutched in their fists, how many exactly are on their list(s) at any given time? Have they ever had their best laid plans go awry? Oh of course not, things like that only happen to unscrupulous breeders.
I thought having 8 potential good buyers a pretty good thing…considering my locale.

Rhetts_mama 01-25-2011 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gemy (Post 3405469)
I think what for me is a "reasonable" statement about PM's, ie private messages, is the following; you might receive pm's about puppy availability from a member here on Yorkie Talk, it is always advisable to throughly research a breeder prior to making a purchase commitment. Membership on YT doesn't warrant or guarantee one way or the other about the quality of an individual member breeder.

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