Wanted: Female Puppy in Northern Ca

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

People who are banned from YT know very well why they are banned. The rules here are very clear and the admin and mods are very patient.

Every time I see someone suggest that people don't know why they are banned, I chuckle. You almost have to go out of your way to get banned from YT.

My roomate knows exactally why a ban occured. She chooses not to drag any dirty laundry out in the air. I can tell you it wasn't due to any breeding issues. I commend her for wanting to keep YT a happy place and not drag out any unnecessary drama.

As for me please understand Yes I have low post counts because I just choose not to post all the time.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by linda44

I dont know Deb, but she did sell dogs for Natalie and Natalie for her. Debs dogs have pedigrees that are Natalies lines. Those that have gotten pups and have no problems Im happy for, but my Dakota has more than his share of health issues and he came from Natalie 6 years ago. Just please be careful and check your pedigrees.

NO she didn't sell dogs for anyone other than herself. I don't feel her sending people who are looking for a yorkie girl perhaps when all she had were boys to a friend is selling for them. I am sure alot of breeders refer people looking for a yorkie puppy to a friend who may have puppies. That's not selling for another it is just helping someone find their new furbaby. Selling for someone means that money would be exchanged and there wasn't ever anything like that, so please stop assuming incorrectly. Ty!

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by n2cm

NO she didn't sell dogs for anyone other than herself. I don't feel her sending people who are looking for a yorkie girl perhaps when all she had were boys to a friend is selling for them. I am sure alot of breeders refer people looking for a yorkie puppy to a friend who may have puppies. That's not selling for another it is just helping someone find their new furbaby. Selling for someone means that money would be exchanged and there wasn't ever anything like that, so please stop assuming incorrectly. Ty!

It's funny Gloria because going back and reading threads your roomate posted I discovered she uses that same Ty. I'm not trying to be rude just wondering.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

It's funny Gloria because going back and reading threads your roomate posted I discovered she uses that same Ty. I'm not trying to be rude just wondering.

Well how would you say it abbreviated?

[manolos mom]

Thank You...Sorry Gloria, my mistake.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Thank You...Sorry Gloria, my mistake.

Appology accepted, Ty for allowing me the opportunity to clear it up for you.

[Elle]

Even with tests, things happen. I don't feel its the duty of YT to attempt to regulate health tests. I know people that don't do it, with luck they've been lucky. Some test everything, without luck and things have been hard. Personally, if I were buying a pup I'd have more confidence in a breeder that said they have had problems. Bad things happen. If they won't invest in healthy breed worthy stock, what do people think they do when a problem arises? If you are buying a puppy from someone that targets you, think they are breeding well or will stand behind a contract? A contract doesn't mean much more than the paper its on if they don't live up to them. 1500 is it worth going to court? Its well known what usually happens. We see it here daily. Homes should be lined up before having liters.
It bothers me to see puppies treated like car parts. Then when there's a problem, accountability at best.
I see a lot of advice given by people that have never bred, some are only a year into the breed. Some are on their first one. One time we had a child giving advice on how to whelp. People can be helpful to newbies when they have more exper than they do. But I see advice that makes me shake my head.
I question my own motive and impact of being here each time a beating heart is treated like a car part. How can you give another person your vision for these wee ones? Its it possible or are we by way of enabling? Are we supporting it all the same by helping uneducated breeders breed successfully? We can't allow suffering, that's never a choice.
I don't know anything about
Natalie. Is she the lady here selling tinies?

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by Elle

Even with tests, things happen. I don't feel its the duty of YT to attempt to regulate health tests. I know people that don't do it, with luck they've been lucky. Some test everything, without luck and things have been hard. Personally, if I were buying a pup I'd have more confidence in a breeder that said they have had problems. Bad things happen. If they won't invest in healthy breed worthy stock, what do people think they do when a problem arises? If you are buying a puppy from someone that targets you, think they are breeding well or will stand behind a contract? A contract doesn't mean much more than the paper its on if they don't live up to them. 1500 is it worth going to court? Its well known what usually happens. We see it here daily. Homes should be lined up before having liters.
It bothers me to see puppies treated like car parts. Then when there's a problem, accountability at best.
I see a lot of advice given by people that have never bred, some are only a year into the breed. Some are on their first one. One time we had a child giving advice on how to whelp. People can be helpful to newbies when they have more exper than they do. But I see advice that makes me shake my head.
I question my own motive and impact of being here each time a beating heart is treated like a car part. How can you give another person your vision for these wee ones? Its it possible or are we by way of enabling? Are we supporting it all the same by helping uneducated breeders breed successfully? We can't allow suffering, that's never a choice.
I don't know anything about
Natalie. Is she the lady here selling tinies?

Yes Elle, Natalie is the Breeder that is still selling Tea Cups on YT...

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Elle

If you are buying a puppy from someone that targets you, think they are breeding well or will stand behind a contract? A contract doesn't mean much more than the paper its on if they don't live up to them. 1500 is it worth going to court? Its well known what usually happens. We see it here daily. Homes should be lined up before having liters.

This bothers me as well~someone posts they are looking for a puppy and every "behind the scenes breeder" starts to send out PMs offering their puppies. It's no different than picking up a puppy at the Walmart parking lot. If they were reputable they would be in the open doing the right thing and making a good solid name for themselves.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

This bothers me as well~someone posts they are looking for a puppy and every "behind the scenes breeder" starts to send out PMs offering their puppies. It's no different than picking up a puppy at the Walmart parking lot. If they were reputable they would be in the open doing the right thing and making a good solid name for themselves.

I see it happening more and more.

Jodi,

If they were reputable they wouldn't have to be doing it behind the scenes or out in the open. You don't breed prior to having homes for these pups. Homes that the breeder has interviewed and investigated.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

I see it happening more and more.

Jodi,

If they were reputable they wouldn't have to be doing it behind the scenes or out in the open. You don't breed prior to having homes for these pups. Homes that the breeder has interviewed and investigated.

I agree with this 100%! So many breeders claim to only breed when they have homes for future puppies, but then I wonder, why do they have ads here?

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I agree with this 100%! So many breeders claim to only breed when they have homes for future puppies, but then I wonder, why do they have ads here?

No need to be confused Nancy. With the advent of the internet, it's made it very easy for some that are breeding to learn the lingo (enough so that they can fool the unsuspecting, unknowledgable puppy buyer), talk the talk, but they really don't walk the walk.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by manolos mom

Yes Elle, Natalie is the Breeder that is still selling Tea Cups on YT...

Just wanted to give you an F.Y.I.
Not too stand up for Natalie here but it sure looks like alot of reputable breeders do buy her puppies. If you look here and scroll down to Sassy she is from Natalie's lines. Firebrand Yorkies Females

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by n2cm

Just wanted to give you an F.Y.I.
Not too stand up for Natalie here but it sure looks like alot of reputable breeders do buy her puppies. If you look here and scroll down to Sassy she is from Natalie's lines. Firebrand Yorkies Females

Mmm....it depends on what you constitute as a reputable breeder. I checked out the website and what I see is advertisement of bloodlines being captilized on. Championed sired, Champion lines is an advertising ploy......Natalie obtained her lines via the backdoor as did Firebrand Yorkies.

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