Wanted: Female Puppy in Northern Ca

[n2cm]

You know what I have something to say here! You can assume anything you want because obviously you people seem to know everything apparently you even know why my website is named DNG now, so think whatever you want because I dont want to argue or fight. YT is suppossed to be a happy place for yorkie lovers to share yorkie information its not suppossed to be a place to fight or argue.

I have several friends on here and have been breeding for over 7 years now. Alot of my puppy homes actually come back for a second puppy so to me that speaks volume. I have a few that have come back for a 3rd puppy, so to the OP I wish you the best in finding your new furbaby to love. I will not sit here and argue or fight with anyone any longer. Everyone have a wonderful evening.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by peanut

I can't sit back and let people talk about them like she is a puppy mill, or doesn't care. As for the teacup size, yes she should take that off it is confusing and wrong, but as far as Gloria being on YT, she has a right to be just like any of us, she was on long before the Deb was banned. You made a mistake by even saying anything to the OP, Gloria, next time keep your mouth close.

I don't see where anyone even remotely implied that this was a puppy mill? I think the concern for many was the "teacup" factor on her site, which you yourself disagree with.
When I see someone, especially a very inactive member of YT posting offering pups for sale, especially to newer members, I believe they have every right to know that 'this person is the breeding/business partner of a banned YT member who had their practices questioned.' That is the truth, isn't it? Can you dispute it's not? People can take the information and decide how they feel about it for themselves.

[RUsmom]

Seems like there are A LOT of red flags here. I did look up your site and there definitely mentions you occasionally have teacups seems very deceiving to me! I do see that you do have a page on how teacups don't exist, then why even use that term on your home page? I also thought ten weeks was still young to have a little one leave their mom? Justs seems to me people should be very cautious. Do a lot of research and if you see red flags stay away!

[peanut]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I don't see where anyone even remotely implied that this was a puppy mill? I think the concern for many was the "teacup" factor on her site, which you yourself disagree with.
When I see someone, especially a very inactive member of YT posting offering pups for sale, especially to newer members, I believe they have every right to know that 'this person is the breeding/business partner of a banned YT member who had their practices questioned.' That is the truth, isn't it? Can you dispute it's not? People can take the information and decide how they feel about it for themselves.

I don't know why she was banned from the site, I am sure you and the others do, I don't but I don't believe it was because of her breeding practices question.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by RUsmom

Seems like there are A LOT of red flags here. I did look up your site and there definitely mentions you occasionally have teacups seems very deceiving to me! I do see that you do have a page on how teacups don't exist, then why even use that term on your home page? I also thought ten weeks was still young to have a little one leave their mom? Justs seems to me people should be very cautious. Do a lot of research and if you see red flags stay away!

Contract offers no cash refund and only covers life threatening non treatable defects. LS is surgically correctable, so out of luck.

Will not cover treatment for coccidia even though this manifests itself when a puppy leaves it's dam and litter mates. Parasites within a specified time frame should be covered.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by peanut

I don't know why she was banned from the site, I am sure you and the others do, I don't but I don't believe it was because of her breeding practices question.

I never said she was banned because of her breeding practices.
I really have no clue why she was banned, nor do I care. I just know that she was and that yes, from time to time, her practices were questioned. Things I believe people, particularly new members being approached with offers of pups for sale, should be aware of. Like I said, they can take the info and make what they want of it.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by peanut

I have to say something here, I know Deb and Gloria are ethical, responsible breeders, I have know Deb for years, I met her on YT a long time ago, she is one of the most knowledgable breeders around. I know this isn't Deb posting, but I can't sit back and let people talk about them like she is a puppy mill, or doesn't care. As for the teacup size, yes she should take that off it is confusing and wrong, but as far as Gloria being on YT, she has a right to be just like any of us, she was on long before the Deb was banned. You made a mistake by even saying anything to the OP, Gloria, next time keep your mouth close.

Kim, Ty I made the change on my website, hopefully now it will be abit more clear so people don't assume the worst in people.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by RUsmom

Seems like there are A LOT of red flags here. I did look up your site and there definitely mentions you occasionally have teacups seems very deceiving to me! I do see that you do have a page on how teacups don't exist, then why even use that term on your home page? I also thought ten weeks was still young to have a little one leave their mom? Justs seems to me people should be very cautious. Do a lot of research and if you see red flags stay away!

Say what you want but too stop people from assuming the worst I made a more clear change on my home page. I also would like to clarify that not all my puppies go home at 10 weeks. Usually the larger puppies can go home at 10 weeks but only after my vets approval. Most of them stay till they are 12 weeks old. I do agree people need to do alot of research before purchasing any puppy because these are living breathing animals who need to be placed in the proper homes. It is my responsibility to make sure each and every puppy is placed in the right home as suited for the owners as well as each individual puppy him/herself.

[pepe mint]

Oh good grief...this place never changes does it? I have stayed away for so long because of the cattiness and constant bickering. Guess I should have stayed away completely. I have one of DNG's pups and can tell you first hand she is an amazing breeder. I have recommended her many times and would certainly buy from her again...and again. If you are looking for a "person" to be perfect, good luck. But if you are looking for well bred, great quality, extremely well loved and cared for yorkies, you WILL get that from DNG. period. If you sit down and put enough effort into it, you can tear every breeder on this site apart in some way or another. But what's the point???

and as for someone being banned and their roommate being attacked for posting...well...I know many of you have spouses, parents, children, siblings, etc that are members here. how is this any different? If you are banned, does this mean your loved one can no longer use their account???

I love you guys, I really do. and I respect all of your breeding and show knowledge and practices...but I do not respect how childish you can be sometimes. This falls under childish to me. You have done NOTHING helpful, only hurtful. You haven't protected anyone from buying from a bad breeder because DNG is FAR from that! you have only hurt a very loving and caring person.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I never said she was banned because of her breeding practices.
I really have no clue why she was banned, nor do I care. I just know that she was and that yes, from time to time, her practices were questioned. Things I believe people, particularly new members being approached with offers of pups for sale, should be aware of. Like I said, they can take the info and make what they want of it.

I guess I read it wrong, I hope the OP finds a great puppy, do your research and read up on all breeders.

Originally Posted by n2cm

Kim, Ty I made the change on my website, hopefully now it will be abit more clear so people don't assume the worst in people.

Gloria, I am glad you changed it, cause it makes more sense if you don't breed for them. Good luck with all your pups.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by pepe mint

and as for someone being banned and their roommate being attacked for posting...well...I know many of you have spouses, parents, children, siblings, etc that are members here. how is this any different? If you are banned, does this mean your loved one can no longer use their account???

Hmmm...good question. I guess maybe they if they were selling pups from the joint practice they shared and were giving your information as a contact... Good question--the rules on YT DO state that there is only one account per family/household allowed unless approved first...so I guess that would be up to Admin to decide on a case by case basis.

[n2cm]

Originally Posted by pepe mint

Oh good grief...this place never changes does it? I have stayed away for so long because of the cattiness and constant bickering. Guess I should have stayed away completely. I have one of DNG's pups and can tell you first hand she is an amazing breeder. I have recommended her many times and would certainly buy from her again...and again. If you are looking for a "person" to be perfect, good luck. But if you are looking for well bred, great quality, extremely well loved and cared for yorkies, you WILL get that from DNG. period. If you sit down and put enough effort into it, you can tear every breeder on this site apart in some way or another. But what's the point???

and as for someone being banned and their roommate being attacked for posting...well...I know many of you have spouses, parents, children, siblings, etc that are members here. how is this any different? If you are banned, does this mean your loved one can no longer use their account???

I love you guys, I really do. and I respect all of your breeding and show knowledge and practices...but I do not respect how childish you can be sometimes. This falls under childish to me. You have done NOTHING helpful, only hurtful. You haven't protected anyone from buying from a bad breeder because DNG is FAR from that! you have only hurt a very loving and caring person.

Ty so much for the kind words mandee. I know of all people here you would know my breeding practices the most since you have Tessa from me. I truely appreciate your words of kindness!!

[pepe mint]

Originally Posted by n2cm

Ty so much for the kind words mandee. I know of all people here you would know my breeding practices the most since you have Tessa from me. I truely appreciate your words of kindness!!

Well, I can testify first hand that your breeding practices are above and beyond...Tessa simply could not be more perfect (not just because she is mine!). She fits the standard perfectly, 6.5 lbs, perfect silky coat, perfect head, perfect teeth, perfect tail, great stance, etc. Her temperament is by far the best temperament I have ever seen in a yorkie. Calm natured, sweet, doesn't bark, easily potty trained, eager to please, friendly to everyone...even small children, not timid at all. You have been there answering any questions I may have since the day she was born, getting on video chat to show me my baby before she came home to me, you flew with her and hand delivered her to me from California to Tennessee, waiting until she was 16 weeks old before traveling with her to bring her to me. She came to me pad trained and very well taken care of, all papers ready, personalized blanket and puppy care kit. You have never been too busy to answer any questions, doing more than just being a breeder. More than anyone else I have ever known. You have taken a personal interest in her, following up with her growth, and I know for a fact you guys do this with every pup you place.

Knowing all of these things, knowing that I would never hesitate to buy from you again, it just kills me to see you attacked this way. And actions like this are the very reason that I really can't stand to post on YT anymore. It's the very reason many of us are scared to death to ask any questions in fear of our entire lives being investigated and every speeding ticket we have ever gotten being revealed on YT. it's just sad...this should be a place where we help each other...not where we tear each other down. And lately, it seems there is a group of snotty people on here that find nothing better to do than to bring other breeders down...I guess to eliminate any competition??? I don't know...I can't see any other reason why you should be treated this way. If you were a BYB or puppy mill, or careless breeder, I could understand. But you aren't....the posts in this thread were unnecessary and completely out of line. No good has come of any of it. Just makes me sick

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by pepe mint

Well, I can testify first hand that your breeding practices are above and beyond...Tessa simply could not be more perfect (not just because she is mine!). She fits the standard perfectly, 6.5 lbs, perfect silky coat, perfect head, perfect teeth, perfect tail, great stance, etc. Her temperament is by far the best temperament I have ever seen in a yorkie. Calm natured, sweet, doesn't bark, easily potty trained, eager to please, friendly to everyone...even small children, not timid at all. You have been there answering any questions I may have since the day she was born, getting on video chat to show me my baby before she came home to me, you flew with her and hand delivered her to me from California to Tennessee, waiting until she was 16 weeks old before traveling with her to bring her to me. She came to me pad trained and very well taken care of, all papers ready, personalized blanket and puppy care kit. You have never been too busy to answer any questions, doing more than just being a breeder. More than anyone else I have ever known. You have taken a personal interest in her, following up with her growth, and I know for a fact you guys do this with every pup you place.

Knowing all of these things, knowing that I would never hesitate to buy from you again, it just kills me to see you attacked this way. And actions like this are the very reason that I really can't stand to post on YT anymore. It's the very reason many of us are scared to death to ask any questions in fear of our entire lives being investigated and every speeding ticket we have ever gotten being revealed on YT. it's just sad...this should be a place where we help each other...not where we tear each other down. And lately, it seems there is a group of snotty people on here that find nothing better to do than to bring other breeders down...I guess to eliminate any competition??? I don't know...I can't see any other reason why you should be treated this way. If you were a BYB or puppy mill, or careless breeder, I could understand. But you aren't....the posts in this thread were unnecessary and completely out of line. No good has come of any of it. Just makes me sick

Sorry you feel this way, But to try and sell pups at 10 weeks is not an ethical breeder. According to YTCA, puppies should stay with their mother until the age of 12 to 16 weeks. Also, most good breeders/exhibitors dont need to advertise or have websites. I am glad she changed the word "Teacup" on your website. She should spay or neuter the Dinky and place him or her in a home..

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

To the OP, I am sorry, but I'm on the other side of the country from you and do not have a recommendation. I do however want to extend a warm welcome to you and offer some friendly advice.

Please be wary of any offers you get, even here on YT, and particularly via private message with offers of pups for sale. Being a breeder here on YT does not automatically mean that individual is breeding ethically. Many times, people choose to contact others 'behind the scenes' to keep their unethical practices from being exposed where everyone can see them.
Research what red flags to avoid when considering breeders:
breeding very small dogs, advertising "teacups"
multiple breeds or 'designer' breeds
questionable registries/registration, placing dogs full registration, no questions asked
breeding non-standard dogs
not performing specific health screenings, not offering a health guarantee
releasing pups very early (recommended for Yorkies is 12 wks, minimum)

When all else fails, ask for opinions.

Be patient and good luck! The perfect little one is out there somewhere.

Great post!