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Old 11-02-2010, 05:48 PM   #31
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I have been her roomate for 7 years not that I have to explain my living arrangements to you. The DNG Presley Yorkies stands for Deb N Gloria. It is easier to use one email address on the website but like I said your gonna assume the worst reguardless of what I say apparently. Neither of us is in business with Natalie we were friends with her Yes but we never sold her dogs. Also if you notice I have been a member since 2008, so I didn't join after anything I have been a member all along geezz.....
If I recall correctly, you all sold dogs for each other and your partner always gave her great endorsements. Both their practices were questioned here from time to time. So no, you don't have to explain anything to me, but members here have a right to know that the dogs you are selling coming are from the same joint breeding program that is run by a former, banned members--something many newer members, like the OP here, are likely not aware of. Essentially what is happening here, is you are here selling dogs for a banned member.

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Old 11-02-2010, 05:50 PM   #32
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The age is not before 12 weeks with two innoculations, can't do that at 10 weeks. And now it's 16 weeks if you being responsible and are having bile acids done on dogs.

But, since you are so ethical, why did you find it necessary to go around posting behind each newbie looking for pup. Telling them you had pups that were born Oct 21 and your phone #. Not an ethical thing to do if one is following YT rules. Then attempt to hide what you were doing and leaving off the whelping date.
I am not hiding anything I am a very honest person. I saw the lady was looking for a puppy after the holidays so I thought I would let her know I live near her. I guess I didn't realize if I wasn't posting a for sale ad I couldn't mention I might be able to match her with her furbaby. I am not trying to break any rules nor hide anything. I am not god and I surely don't walk on water and never claimed too but I can say I am not the first nor will I be the last person to make an honest mistake unknowingly. My sincere appologies for making you think otherwise but I can tell you I am honest to the core.
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If I recall correctly, you all sold dogs for each other and your partner always gave her great endorsements. Both their practices were questioned here from time to time. So no, you don't have to explain anything to me, but members here have a right to know that the dogs you are selling coming are from the same joint breeding program that is run by a former, banned members--something many newer members, like the OP here, are likely not aware of. Essentially what is happening here, is you are here selling dogs for a banned member.
Your right my roomate did stand up for Natalie awhile back, however she didn't and doesn't sell her dogs. My roomate NEVER sold anyone elses puppies but her own. As a matter of fact if you must know they don't speak anymore. I am NOT selling dogs for a banned member I am selling my own puppies since I am the "G" part of the DNG Presley Yorkies! My roomate was banned for un-knowingly breaking a yt rule it didn't have anything to do with her or My breeding practices at all. If you want to bash me or her please get the facts straight.
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You can call them your puppies or hers, won't make any difference. You gals have a joint breeding venture and use the same contact information. Surely you see how that looks a little suspicious. One partner gets banned, so the other joins and offers pups for sale instead.
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I am not hiding anything I am a very honest person. I saw the lady was looking for a puppy after the holidays so I thought I would let her know I live near her. I guess I didn't realize if I wasn't posting a for sale ad I couldn't mention I might be able to match her with her furbaby. I am not trying to break any rules nor hide anything. I am not god and I surely don't walk on water and never claimed too but I can say I am not the first nor will I be the last person to make an honest mistake unknowingly. My sincere appologies for making you think otherwise but I can tell you I am honest to the core.
You stated you knew what the rules were, no mistake made. Once it was brought to your attention you dropped the whelping date. Then came back and said you had other litters besides this one. Your website shows otherwise. And if that was the case I would think you'd have posted the litters, as appropriate in the Yorkies Wanted or For Sale Section.

Just FYI ethical, responsible breeders do not sell tinies, they place them in qualified homes. Never attempting to capitilize on potential heart ache.
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You can call them your puppies or hers, won't make any difference. You gals have a joint breeding venture and use the same contact information. Surely you see how that looks a little suspicious. One partner gets banned, so the other joins and offers pups for sale instead.
Look you can assume alot of in-correct information very easily. I call them mine because they are. When my name is on the ownership certificate I can rightfully call them mine! I have been a YT member way before deb was banned, so please get the information correct before assuming the worst in people please it is very unfair when you always assume the worst about someone before knowing all the facts.
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Look you can assume alot of in-correct information very easily. I call them mine because they are. When my name is on the ownership certificate I can rightfully call them mine! I have been a YT member way before deb was banned, so please get the information correct before assuming the worst in people please it is very unfair when you always assume the worst about someone before knowing all the facts.
So your business is Debbie N Gloria Presley Yorkies So who is the N in the name?
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I have been a YT member way before deb was banned, so please get the information correct before assuming
I can see your join date under your name, along with your post count--29, most of which are in THIS thread. So yes, you have been a member for a while, just not an active one. I really don't think that matters and don't hold it against members, but as you are the one who keeps bringing it up....

(Heck, look at mine...I look like I'm on YT 24/7! I don't know how I find the time to sleep! )
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You stated you knew what the rules were, no mistake made. Once it was brought to your attention you dropped the whelping date. Then came back and said you had other litters besides this one. Your website shows otherwise. And if that was the case I would think you'd have posted the litters, as appropriate in the Yorkies Wanted or For Sale Section.

Just FYI ethical, responsible breeders do not sell tinies, they place them in qualified homes. Never attempting to capitilize on potential heart ache.
I have 2 tinies here as pets cause I didn't feel comfortable with placing them as you put it, so I know all about being ethical. Yes I know what the rules are as far as posting them in the for sale section because they have to be 10 weeks old. I didn't know it was such a big deal to mention to a lady that I lived near her and would have some available around the time she was wanting one. Stop trying to put words in my mouth that aren't there. As far as other litter Yes I do have some other puppies available. I have a small male who is looking for his forever home so again please make sure you aren't wrong before trying to crucify me over nothing. I am not wanting to argue nor fight with you or anyone please.
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So your business is Debbie N Gloria Presley Yorkies So who is the N in the name?
Jodi, The N is short for and......you are too funny.
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I have to say something here, I know Deb and Gloria are ethical, responsible breeders, I have know Deb for years, I met her on YT a long time ago, she is one of the most knowledgable breeders around. I know this isn't Deb posting, but I can't sit back and let people talk about them like she is a puppy mill, or doesn't care. As for the teacup size, yes she should take that off it is confusing and wrong, but as far as Gloria being on YT, she has a right to be just like any of us, she was on long before the Deb was banned. You made a mistake by even saying anything to the OP, Gloria, next time keep your mouth close.
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So your business is Debbie N Gloria Presley Yorkies So who is the N in the name?
THe "N" is used as in Deb N Gloria like the word "and" but we decided to use the letter N instead of the word and. Hence the DNG Presley Yorkies name! Does that clarify it enough for you?
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Jodi, The N is short for and......you are too funny.
I told you the "N" stands for the word "and" shortened so don't assume otherwise because your wrong. We didn't want to use the whole word and and shortened it to "N" so whats the big deal? Are we not allowed to call our website any name we choose?
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I have 2 tinies here as pets cause I didn't feel comfortable with placing them as you put it, so I know all about being ethical. Yes I know what the rules are as far as posting them in the for sale section because they have to be 10 weeks old. I didn't know it was such a big deal to mention to a lady that I lived near her and would have some available around the time she was wanting one. Stop trying to put words in my mouth that aren't there. As far as other litter Yes I do have some other puppies available. I have a small male who is looking for his forever home so again please make sure you aren't wrong before trying to crucify me over nothing. I am not wanting to argue nor fight with you or anyone please.
If you have other litters why not post them.

The rules are no advertising and pups under 10 weeks of age. That means you can't push them prior to that age. You knew what you were doing, as you posted in several threads, not just one.

I did check out your website. You were specifically speaking too the pups born 10/21, no mention of the little guy.

But, as was mentioned you have 30 posts, most of them on this thread or selling pups.
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I told you the "N" stands for the word "and" shortened so don't assume otherwise because your wrong. We didn't want to use the whole word and and shortened it to "N" so whats the big deal? Are we not allowed to call our website any name we choose?
Now if you look that is exactly what I explained to Jodi.
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