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YorkieRini · 07-14-2005, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tarawood

I really love the look of Biewers. What would the average going price of one of these babies be?

I march to the beat of my own drum so to speak. If and when I have puppies I am going to have both m/f altered before leaving my home none will be sold for breeding only to a handful of breeders I've known for years.
The males will start at $2200 and the females will start at $2600.

Fran42478 · 07-14-2005, 09:54 AM

Irene --

Do you own male biewers that you will be breeding Hope and Harmony with? Or do you own just the 2 of them?

All of your Yorkies are precious! Anyone would be lucky to have any of them!!!

XoXoXo
Fran and Sammi

YorkieRini · 07-14-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fran42478

Irene --

Do you own male biewers that you will be breeding Hope and Harmony with? Or do you own just the 2 of them?

All of your Yorkies are precious! Anyone would be lucky to have any of them!!!

XoXoXo
Fran and Sammi

Fran, I actually have more than just Hope and Harmony. I have 3 of their full sisters: Lovetta, Lucia, and Liberty. I did finally get my male too..his name is Dice. I am in the process of changing my website entirely so I didn't post pics yet..

I'll let you guys know when I do..

Hugs,
Irene

Fran42478 · 07-14-2005, 10:21 AM

Oh yes!!! Thats right how could I forget about Lovetta, Lucia, and Liberty!!! I am always on the site looking for updated pics! LOL!!

I must admit though...I think all of your furbabies are BEAUTIFUL, but my FAVORITE is Mandy...Her coloring reminds me so much of my Sammi's...

XoXoXo
Fran

whispersmom2 · 07-14-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

A male Biewer with beautiful markings that I was going to get was upwards of 2k intact.

That would be a good deal for a true Biewer. I have Biewers-1 male and 2 females. I have an AKC reg. parti color male. Parti color by AKC standrd is an animal with white as the base coat and at least 1 other color. My Remi, is AKC, fits the description to a T and I have his pedigree with his picture on it. I will breed him to a female standard blue and tan female that carries the piebald geve. That is the gene that gives Dalmatians, pie-bald Doxie their color patterns. I will get AKC registerable puppies, if I ever get puppies.
There are 2 breeders in CA who have some of the same pics on each one's web site. I thought there were partners when I spoke with them about 1 1/2 years ago..Now they have 2 different web sites. Their partis run around $3500.00 and when I spoke with them they said thet sell with limited reg and spay/neuter agreement. Would you like one of us to check out the pup and its markings??
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YorkieRini · 07-15-2005, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I have an AKC reg. parti color male. Parti color by AKC standrd is an animal with white as the base coat and at least 1 other color. My Remi, is AKC, fits the description to a T and I have his pedigree with his picture on it.

Rini,

That is very interesting. I didn't realize the Parti/Tris had a specific description. Learn something knew everyday!

Hugs,
Irene

whispersmom2 · 07-15-2005, 02:21 PM

Irene, the code they assign is the same code used for partis of any breed. You probably already know that they do assign a number based on breed but based on color..so parti-poodles or Pom and such would have the same marking number as a Yorkie..

YorkieRini · 07-15-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Irene, the code they assign is the same code used for partis of any breed. You probably already know that they do assign a number based on breed but based on color..so parti-poodles or Pom and such would have the same marking number as a Yorkie..

OOOH...I understand now. That's pretty neat stuff. The AKC works in mysterious ways...lolol.

Hugs,
Irene

b_veselka · 07-19-2005, 09:11 AM

They are too pretty!

Snow Yorkies · 07-25-2005, 10:12 PM

Hello, fellow yorkie lovers. I just joined yorkie talk, so let me introduce myself. My name is Susan Williams and I reside in Alabama. I too have the Biewer yorkshires. The are wonderful little dogs. I will have to share with you that their personalities are different than our traditional yorkies here in the states. Once you meet one you will have to have one, they will steal your heart in a minute.
I want everyone to know that if you are looking for one of these dogs-PLEASE be very careful when purchasing one and be patient they are very hard to come by- good quality biewers are. I have been contacted by ppl that have been taken, they were sold dogs with wrong registries, they were give pictures of puppies of they were suppose to get and don't get the pup that was pictured. Also alot of poor quality dogs, sick dogs, ect... So check into the seller- don't be bamboozled. I know this happens in every breed, and it is sad that there is dishonest people out there, but it angers me that this brand new breed has thiefs attached to it already and will make it hard for those of us honest people trying to bring this breed here in the states for everyone to enjoy.
I have taken my two Biewers to show this past June to Gray Summit at Purina Farms in MO. We can show the Biewers with the International All Breed Canine Assoc. their website is www.iabca.com if you would like some information on the shows and if there will be one in your area. They will do what they call a super week-end, which entitles you to show your dog four times that weekend and accumulate the points for titles. I came home with my male a national and international baby champion and my female is a national baby champion. (she would not walk on her leash!!!)
Well that is my introduction. I have almost wrote a book for all of you and so this is chapter I. haha!!! I just get excited about my dogs I don't have enough sense to stop writing. Nice to meet everyone. Be Blessed Sue

wnalegria · 07-26-2005, 08:00 AM

I just found out that a male that I have is a parti color carrier. It is hard to locate them. They are few are far between.

sylvan · 07-26-2005, 09:12 AM

Welcome to YT Susan! I peeked at your site and just love your Eliah. I just got 2 Biewer girls from Germany after looking for a long time and I adore their personalities.

Snow Yorkies · 07-26-2005, 09:46 AM

I just want to add to the genetics of the biewers. To do this we need to start at the beginning with the founder Mr. Biewer , the history of the Yorkshires and what the word pie-bald means. So everyone put your thinking caps on. Let us start with the Yorkshires their coloring is a give me, you have your black backs and your silver backs, right? Okay now we will introduce the word pie-bald which means "marked with two different colors, esp. black and white, (commonly used in other animal breeding as well) this is where the white was introduced into the breed. Sad to say many breeders used to kill these puppies ( having white in their coloring) as they didn't want others to know of this color in their lines. Some will tell you this is a sign of mutt being in your bloodline somewhere. Now Mr. Biewer took the recessive pie-bald gene carriers that are Yorkies and mutated that gene to develop this breed. There was several breedings to achieve this and as he introduced other recessive pie-bald carriers to his program as not to continuing inbreed.(If you have had the opportunity to see his picture of his dogs on the runway, they weren't all Biewers in that picture.) That is how different bloodlines have developed. All of the Biewers start with the Master parents, as we all started with Adam and Eve. And here is another little formula for everyone, just because you breed two biewers that doesn't mean you can't still get a yorkie. I have seen this on the whelpen pages of German breeders web sites. So don't be disappointed if you get this, it can happen, as genetics go they can pull from their ancestral genes. I hope this helps clarifying the history of how the biewers came about, So if you ask me are the biewers different from the parti-colors, only is they were breed with another breed of dog such as the maltese, ect.(Which some breeders are doing this for knock offs,now) If the parti-colors comes from a recessive pie-bald gene mutation, then it would be the same dog just different lines, which that may differ the color pattern in some. Of course the parti color would have to have the same standards of the Biewers, no docked tail (which is part of the standard white to be at the end of the tail.) and that all four legs and bellies are to be white. As the biewers have the black and white backs, as some of the parti colors include some tan or brown in coloring. That may be where we seperate the Breed.

Snow Yorkies · 07-26-2005, 01:41 PM

Thank you for your warm welcome and the compliment on Eliah. He is a beautiful and loving dog, but I sold him to a wonderful family in Virginia. She was needing something special in her life and was in love with his picture. Homer was for sale at that time, but she just really wanted Eliah. So with his personality I knew he would be just what she needed. He had a purpose and that was to bring joy to a much deserving person so I took Homer and sold her Eliah. Sometimes the Lord sits on our shoulders and directs us to do his will. I prayed about this and the only time I felt good about it was when I considered the sale. By following his direction Sharon has been very grateful and taking wonderful care of him. Eliah has brought great joy to their family and isn't what this is all about. I will have to tell you Homer will never fit in Eliah's paws and will be greatly missed, but Homer brings a new personality to our family and is always making us smile with his silly self.

Snow Yorkies · 07-28-2005, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wnalegria

I just found out that a male that I have is a parti color carrier. It is hard to locate them. They are few are far between.

How did you come to this determination, that he is a parti-color carrier(piebald) ???? Can you share a picture I would love to see more. I am always looking to learn more. Thanks, Sue

07-14-2005, 09:54 AM	#17
Fran42478 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,731	Irene -- Do you own male biewers that you will be breeding Hope and Harmony with? Or do you own just the 2 of them? All of your Yorkies are precious! Anyone would be lucky to have any of them!!! XoXoXo Fran and Sammi __________________ Fran, Sophia Rose and Jake We Miss You Always Sammi 11/29/03 - 8/20/06

07-14-2005, 10:21 AM	#19
Fran42478 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 1,731	Oh yes!!! Thats right how could I forget about Lovetta, Lucia, and Liberty!!! I am always on the site looking for updated pics! LOL!! I must admit though...I think all of your furbabies are BEAUTIFUL, but my FAVORITE is Mandy...Her coloring reminds me so much of my Sammi's... XoXoXo Fran __________________ Fran, Sophia Rose and Jake We Miss You Always Sammi 11/29/03 - 8/20/06

07-19-2005, 09:11 AM	#24
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	They are too pretty! __________________ Beth Veselka

07-25-2005, 10:12 PM	#25
Snow Yorkies Biewer Passionate Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern AL Posts: 1,684	Biewer Yorkshire Terriers Hello, fellow yorkie lovers. I just joined yorkie talk, so let me introduce myself. My name is Susan Williams and I reside in Alabama. I too have the Biewer yorkshires. The are wonderful little dogs. I will have to share with you that their personalities are different than our traditional yorkies here in the states. Once you meet one you will have to have one, they will steal your heart in a minute. I want everyone to know that if you are looking for one of these dogs-PLEASE be very careful when purchasing one and be patient they are very hard to come by- good quality biewers are. I have been contacted by ppl that have been taken, they were sold dogs with wrong registries, they were give pictures of puppies of they were suppose to get and don't get the pup that was pictured. Also alot of poor quality dogs, sick dogs, ect... So check into the seller- don't be bamboozled. I know this happens in every breed, and it is sad that there is dishonest people out there, but it angers me that this brand new breed has thiefs attached to it already and will make it hard for those of us honest people trying to bring this breed here in the states for everyone to enjoy. I have taken my two Biewers to show this past June to Gray Summit at Purina Farms in MO. We can show the Biewers with the International All Breed Canine Assoc. their website is www.iabca.com if you would like some information on the shows and if there will be one in your area. They will do what they call a super week-end, which entitles you to show your dog four times that weekend and accumulate the points for titles. I came home with my male a national and international baby champion and my female is a national baby champion. (she would not walk on her leash!!!) Well that is my introduction. I have almost wrote a book for all of you and so this is chapter I. haha!!! I just get excited about my dogs I don't have enough sense to stop writing. Nice to meet everyone. Be Blessed Sue

07-26-2005, 08:00 AM	#26
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 815	parti color I just found out that a male that I have is a parti color carrier. It is hard to locate them. They are few are far between.

07-15-2005, 02:21 PM	#22
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Irene, the code they assign is the same code used for partis of any breed. You probably already know that they do assign a number based on breed but based on color..so parti-poodles or Pom and such would have the same marking number as a Yorkie..

07-26-2005, 09:12 AM	#27
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	Welcome to YT Susan! I peeked at your site and just love your Eliah. I just got 2 Biewer girls from Germany after looking for a long time and I adore their personalities.

07-26-2005, 09:46 AM	#28
Snow Yorkies Biewer Passionate Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern AL Posts: 1,684	I just want to add to the genetics of the biewers. To do this we need to start at the beginning with the founder Mr. Biewer , the history of the Yorkshires and what the word pie-bald means. So everyone put your thinking caps on. Let us start with the Yorkshires their coloring is a give me, you have your black backs and your silver backs, right? Okay now we will introduce the word pie-bald which means "marked with two different colors, esp. black and white, (commonly used in other animal breeding as well) this is where the white was introduced into the breed. Sad to say many breeders used to kill these puppies ( having white in their coloring) as they didn't want others to know of this color in their lines. Some will tell you this is a sign of mutt being in your bloodline somewhere. Now Mr. Biewer took the recessive pie-bald gene carriers that are Yorkies and mutated that gene to develop this breed. There was several breedings to achieve this and as he introduced other recessive pie-bald carriers to his program as not to continuing inbreed.(If you have had the opportunity to see his picture of his dogs on the runway, they weren't all Biewers in that picture.) That is how different bloodlines have developed. All of the Biewers start with the Master parents, as we all started with Adam and Eve. And here is another little formula for everyone, just because you breed two biewers that doesn't mean you can't still get a yorkie. I have seen this on the whelpen pages of German breeders web sites. So don't be disappointed if you get this, it can happen, as genetics go they can pull from their ancestral genes. I hope this helps clarifying the history of how the biewers came about, So if you ask me are the biewers different from the parti-colors, only is they were breed with another breed of dog such as the maltese, ect.(Which some breeders are doing this for knock offs,now) If the parti-colors comes from a recessive pie-bald gene mutation, then it would be the same dog just different lines, which that may differ the color pattern in some. Of course the parti color would have to have the same standards of the Biewers, no docked tail (which is part of the standard white to be at the end of the tail.) and that all four legs and bellies are to be white. As the biewers have the black and white backs, as some of the parti colors include some tan or brown in coloring. That may be where we seperate the Breed.

07-26-2005, 01:41 PM	#29
Snow Yorkies Biewer Passionate Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern AL Posts: 1,684	Thank you for your warm welcome and the compliment on Eliah. He is a beautiful and loving dog, but I sold him to a wonderful family in Virginia. She was needing something special in her life and was in love with his picture. Homer was for sale at that time, but she just really wanted Eliah. So with his personality I knew he would be just what she needed. He had a purpose and that was to bring joy to a much deserving person so I took Homer and sold her Eliah. Sometimes the Lord sits on our shoulders and directs us to do his will. I prayed about this and the only time I felt good about it was when I considered the sale. By following his direction Sharon has been very grateful and taking wonderful care of him. Eliah has brought great joy to their family and isn't what this is all about. I will have to tell you Homer will never fit in Eliah's paws and will be greatly missed, but Homer brings a new personality to our family and is always making us smile with his silly self.