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mypreciouspups 12-12-2007 12:35 PM

sorry if this is not perfectly said, I tried...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1602002)
Bama's words were not meant as an attack...but, as an attempt to be helpful. So many have come on and posted this or that without reading rules......with that said I know Bama was attempting to assist this person in her search for a new puppy in the correct manner and divert her from continue posting in an incorrect manner.

Time and again people are jumped on when their only cause is to protect YT members from making incorrect decisions.

I too went back through the original posters posts.....and failed to post what I discovered....she purchased a yorkie puppy at 8 weeks of age and brought it into a home with another lab. In a moment of unwatchfulness, puppies being puppies wanted to play....the lab took offense and killed the puppy, punctured the puppy's lung and it died. Once again she's making a wish for another puppy at a lower fee.

So once again in defense of Bama....her attempt was to alert YT breeders, as well as YT members....

This is a good post, :thumbup: But if it was known what actually happened,then why not post it right at the beginning. :confused: For I am sure we all know you will get slammed for just posting the rules so bluntly. I think maybe if it was known then why not just let all know right off the bat, it would save a lot of our frustrations trying to help someone we hope is being up front and honest. Or Pi** some one off that is actually trying to make us read between the lines. I think we need to think "I might as well go all the way and tell what really happened like in this case." If admin allows that.
Some people like me, see a thread and since I am new did not realize there were so many people that went through peoples posts to see what kind of posts they commented on, what has happened in their past. maybe I need to be doing this:eek: :eek:
But to me, when I see a thread like this, I need to think that all people on here or that come on here are not bad people., or dishonest. For if I thought that, then to me why should I want to be here. :confused: I am new and give my yorkies vet care they need without hesitation. They are my life and one needs to use so much common sense with these little guys. :aimeeyork
It is sad and yes, especially when a person has already posted what happened to them, then turn around and make a thread like this.
A lab is far too big :eek: :eek: to have a small yorkie with. Sad but true. And for those that do, I am sure you must be aware of where the small ones are at all time. for accidents only take seconds to happen.
A puppy at 8 weeks old should be in a crate or secure xpen even without other larger dogs around. " I am not going to say, should be with mum":rolleyes:
But speaking for me, I am new, and do not have time to read all posts. I just cannot keep up to it all. I hope I am not the only person here that cannot keep up. Maybe I should not be on here myself. :(

Mardelin 12-12-2007 01:06 PM

Because it's a clear case of darn if you do and darn if you don't. Bama was carefully chosing her words, without appearing to attack the original poster (we've all been slammed for that too, even if it is the truth)


Some people like me, see a thread and since I am newdid not realize there were so many people that went through peoples posts to see what kind of posts they commented on, what has happened in their past. maybe I need to be doing this:

We all want to see the good in everyone, but, once on here long enough you'll begin to see the signs in some posts and you will know where things are leading

But to me, when I see a thread like this, I need to think that all people on here or that come on here are not bad people., or dishonest. For if I thought that, then to me why should I want to be here.

You are right if we all believed that all people are dishonest or bad, we'd all be very cynical and sad people. We just need to be smart enough to see through situations like this and not take everything at face value.

A puppy at 8 weeks old should be in a crate or secure xpen even without other larger dogs around. " I am not going to say, should be with mum":rolleyes:

Alot of people here do not know what it takes to raise a toy dog safely, that's why we're all on here to assist and educate


But speaking for me, I am new, and do not have time to read all posts. I just cannot keep up to it all. I hope I am not the only person here that cannot keep up. Maybe I should not be on here myself. :

[COLOR="blue"]You'll learn to identify certain things that will alert you or remember a previous post that will turn on the light bulb.[/COLOR

mypreciouspups 12-12-2007 01:16 PM

Oh thank you Mardelin for being so kind to my post. It was a hard post for me to do, all kinds of things were running through my mind. Not being sure how it all works.
I came on here with such good intentions and so wanting to learn more then I know now. You can always learn about yorkies, breeding and showing, it is all right here on one forum. I have so enjoyed that part.

Plus I might add, have some fun and brighten a day at the same time. :D
But darn the last couple of threads of some one wanting yorkies and my trying to think of the good, not the bad..has made me stop and think..
Oh why do I always learn the hard way. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr:eek: :eek:

mdycio75 12-12-2007 01:23 PM

well, i have never had a yorkie before. She had been in a pen basically alot of the time, if not, out in the living room with me with the lab in the kitchen. He was always a nice dog and never caused her harm before when we monitored play. I was in the kitchen, which is a large one, took her out of the pen to let her run in the kitchen, buddy was laying on the floor. She must have bit him in the belly or somehwere soft because he never even got up or growled or anything. he just must of gave her the warning nip, but with such a small dog, that was all it took. I would have taken her to the vet and spent thousands to fix her but there was no time. My husband and i sat on the floor crying while she died within seconds. There was NO TIME. buddy just looked around, STILL LYING THERE, not defensive or anything. HE still has no clue what he did and I do not think i should be punished for this now. I want a yorkie, and i learned that i absolutely cannot have them in the same room. I don't get it cause i see other owners on here all the time with big dogs and yorkies. He just was not used to her yet.

MyFairLacy 12-12-2007 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mardelin (Post 1602002)
Bama's words were not meant as an attack...but, as an attempt to be helpful. So many have come on and posted this or that without reading rules......with that said I know Bama was attempting to assist this person in her search for a new puppy in the correct manner and divert her from continue posting in an incorrect manner.

Time and again people are jumped on when their only cause is to protect YT members from making incorrect decisions.

I too went back through the original posters posts.....and failed to post what I discovered....she purchased a yorkie puppy at 8 weeks of age and brought it into a home with another lab. In a moment of unwatchfulness, puppies being puppies wanted to play....the lab took offense and killed the puppy, punctured the puppy's lung and it died. Once again she's making a wish for another puppy at a lower fee.

So once again in defense of Bama....her attempt was to alert YT breeders, as well as YT members....


:thumbup: Bama did nothing wrong...only posted the rules in the nicest way she could. Even though the OP didn't specifically say under $500, she said she didnt have much cash, which made it sound like she is looking for a very cheaply priced yorkie. And we all know the purchase price is just the beginning in expenses with a dog. And unfortunately, I do not think the OP needs another small breed puppy in their home...not with the lab killing the first puppy. If I was a breeder, I would not allow one of my puppies to be placed in a home where something like that happened. The lab unfortunately can not be trusted round smaller breeds. I'm sorry... I know that's not what the OP wants to hear, but she needs to think of the best interest of the puppy. Maybe once your lab has lived out her life and crosses over to rainbow bridge, you can bring a small breed into your home then.

MyFairLacy 12-12-2007 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mdycio75 (Post 1602259)
well, i have never had a yorkie before. She had been in a pen basically alot of the time, if not, out in the living room with me with the lab in the kitchen. He was always a nice dog and never caused her harm before when we monitored play. I was in the kitchen, which is a large one, took her out of the pen to let her run in the kitchen, buddy was laying on the floor. She must have bit him in the belly or somehwere soft because he never even got up or growled or anything. he just must of gave her the warning nip, but with such a small dog, that was all it took. I would have taken her to the vet and spent thousands to fix her but there was no time. My husband and i sat on the floor crying while she died within seconds. There was NO TIME. buddy just looked around, STILL LYING THERE, not defensive or anything. HE still has no clue what he did and I do not think i should be punished for this now. I want a yorkie, and i learned that i absolutely cannot have them in the same room. I don't get it cause i see other owners on here all the time with big dogs and yorkies. He just was not used to her yet.

I don't think a little nip would have killed her...he had to have put his mouth around her body and bit pretty hard to have punctured a lung. It's not that you are being punished for what happened. You just need to think of the best interest for any puppy you're thinking of bringing into your life. You already have one dog - your lab, and unfortunately he is untrustworthy around small breeds. You can say it was an accident and it probably was, but it still happened, and it could happen again.

chachi 12-12-2007 01:36 PM

Why not look for a larger breed dog that would be more compatable with the lab? You dont know that your lab would not snap again

mdycio75 12-12-2007 01:39 PM

a nip from a large lab could have killed an under 2 pound puppy cause it did. I am really not wanting to argue. I basically am now shunned because of something my dog did. Like i said, he was never, ever a harmful dog before. He had been socialized, he has been with other dogs. I have two children and he has never once hurt them or me or my husband. I do believe it was on her chest and/or back area. but like i said, a nip from a large dog is like a bite from a small one. he was not defensive. She was quite a nipper and chewed on him and so he nipped her back, it was one small snap. that is all it took. i am sorry for getting all you people mad and now hating me. I still want a yorkie, I've obviously learned my lesson, and if others can have large dogs and yorkies, then why can't i.

mdycio75 12-12-2007 01:42 PM

i don't want a larger breed. My husband wanted the larger breed years ago so he got one. I have been waiting for years for a yorkie and could finally get one, so we did not knowing this would happen. I took very good care of her and loved her with all my heart. No one knows that as much as i do. i always had her in the crate or with me or we all sat in the living room on the floor and played. I was very cautious reading 2 books before i even got her, and was getting ready to put her in training in a few weeks. I am no dummy, i just turned my head for 3 seconds. my life changed.

marla

BamaFan121s 12-12-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1602276)
:thumbup: Bama did nothing wrong...only posted the rules in the nicest way she could. Even though the OP didn't specifically say under $500, she said she didnt have much cash, which made it sound like she is looking for a very cheaply priced yorkie.

Well...actually, she did give a specific amount...but that part was edited out.:cool: Thank you for understanding my intentions of nicely posting something I'm sure she wasn't aware in an effort to let her know and point her in the right direction.:)

ARCHIE 12-12-2007 01:48 PM

I still want a yorkie, I've obviously learned my lesson, and if others can have large dogs and yorkies, then why can't i.


Because, like people, not all dogs are alike. I am sure your lab is a wonderful
housepet and did not mean any harm but your other doggie lost his life
even though it was an accident. Why would you even consider bringing
in another toy dog. Aren't you afraid of it happening all over again.?
I would be. Why put another puppy's life in danger. Get a larger breed
so the two can be on even ground and enjoy life together.
I can't imagine living in a home where two breeds live independent lives.
Never being together. I would think that would be very stressful for
everyone.
Sometimes what we want is not what we should have at the moment.
I am sorry this happened to you but please give yourself time to reconsider.
Good luck,

MyFairLacy 12-12-2007 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdycio75 (Post 1602313)
a nip from a large lab could have killed an under 2 pound puppy cause it did. I am really not wanting to argue. I basically am now shunned because of something my dog did. Like i said, he was never, ever a harmful dog before. He had been socialized, he has been with other dogs. I have two children and he has never once hurt them or me or my husband. I do believe it was on her chest and/or back area. but like i said, a nip from a large dog is like a bite from a small one. he was not defensive. She was quite a nipper and chewed on him and so he nipped her back, it was one small snap. that is all it took. i am sorry for getting all you people mad and now hating me. I still want a yorkie, I've obviously learned my lesson, and if others can have large dogs and yorkies, then why can't i.

You are in no way being shunned. I would love you to stick around YT. There are a lot of YT members that don't have yorkies yet. There is so much to be learned around here and great people to get to know. I just think it's not safe for you to have a yorkie around a lab that killed your first one. Even if it was an accident, it happened...he's proven that even a small amount of retaliation can kill a small dog. I'm sure you'd make a great yorkie owner! But I just don't think it's a good idea for you to have one with your current dog

BamaFan121s 12-12-2007 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mypreciouspups (Post 1602115)
This is a good post, :thumbup: But if it was known what actually happened,then why not post it right at the beginning. :confused: For I am sure we all know you will get slammed for just posting the rules so bluntly.

Well, truth be told, I posted first in an effort to point her in the right direction AND kind of as an FYI as I'm sure there are lots of YT secrets that I'm sure she'd unaware of being new to YT and all. I didn't realize the manner of the pup's death until AFTER my initial posts. At that point, the thread seemed to be getting heated, it had nothing to do with the original post, and I was afraid that anything I said from that point on would be taken the wrong way. :( Seems like that is just bound to happen from time to time anyway, nothing I can do about it.:)

And thank you Mary for finding the words to explain it.:thumbup: :D

mdycio75 12-12-2007 01:56 PM

well, i guess that may be a truth that i just don't want to face right now. i miss my baby and i want her back. I just want another try. it makes me mad to have to wait. I already feel somewhat angry at my lab, even though i should not, but there still is some anger there.

:rbyorkie: :cry8: :cry8: :cry8: :cry8:

Tiggerwit 12-12-2007 02:00 PM

I'm really sorry about Coco and I hope that one day you can fill the void. I know what you are going through.

I have a Golden and a yorkie. I have to say that my golden is quite tolerant of my yorkie and there are times when I worry. They play and Abby gets into it and I'm afraid that Alphy will either get squished or..... Abby plays with him and she's actually quite gentle but there have been times where he gets ahold of her ear and she actually can stand up and carry him hanging off her ear and then in return she's pinned him with her mouth around the neck. She's been a mama and I think she treats him like he's one of her puppies.

But I do worry, because although she doesn't mean it something could happen. They've been together for 2 years with no incident. I'm sure what happened was not your fault, just a freak incident that could happen to any of us with big dogs. You just never know when that one time is going to be too much for them.

Best wishes to you and good luck in your search.


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