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winniethepooch · 02-02-2007, 09:03 AM

I think k2p1e was just looking for help and advice on finding a mentor...unfortunately this thread is being drowned in a squabble of previous history. Maybe we should try to keep this on topic. I don't show or breed and will never show or breed, but I am interested in the advice that others are giving k2p1e and am hoping she finds someone who will trust her and who she can trust in return to help her start up. It would be nice if we didn't have to dig through all the off topic stuff. Obviously there is a sensitive issue here, and I'm not going to pretend to know what it's about or offer my opinion, but please if it needs to be discussed, why not take it to another thread. Just trying to keep this civil. Thanks guys!

Susanbee51 · 02-02-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by k2p1e

I used to go to handling classes with our poodle and my hubby actually took one of our yorkies (she is not show quality) but just to learn for himself...they commented on how it was shame she (our yorkie Kenzie) wasn't show quality cause she behaved beuatifully, attitude, great gait, she 'showed' beautifully...to her is was a great game of walking around a room with Dad! lol This all came from our little girl who only knows one command "sit", lol

I have a friend who is a groomer, show dogs (has for over 20 years and does very well), handles, breeds and is now studying to become a judge. She has helped me in the past and is my best resource, she picks out the little things and explains how to work on it, break it down, what to look for...I adore her, lol.

She is agreat mentor...she doesn't know yorkies intimately, as she calls it, but the show, how to show, she knows like the back of her hand.

I am not a show person but I would suggest maybe to continue going to the handling classes just to keep you "trained". It also sounds like you have a great mentor in this person. Also, since she is a groomer, she might be able to show you how to do a top knot on your yorkie. That way when you do decide to go into the show ring, you will already be ahead by knowing the top knot. Learning that is a trick in itself.
I wish you the very best of luck.

izzy816 · 02-02-2007, 12:42 PM

People can be so rude. See if it was me I would have responded and it would have said:

"Thank you so much for your great advice and encouragement. I hope that you will have a much better day tomorrow."

Im sorry you had to endure that. You know I believe that when people are mean like that, it always comes back to bite them in the butt! Karma is a @#%$.

Don't let the negativity discourage you.

Susanbee51 · 02-02-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkykisses

The REASON it was brought up in this thread is because of what was done to the REPUTABLE SHOW BREEDER OF THE BOYS it makes it more difficult for someone like " k2p1e" to be able to find a mentor and a nice show prospect. You are quite right about the Exmoor Breeders having gorgeous dogs and they have worked 30 years to have that and I am sure they would give it all up to have the show boy that was killed back home with them again!

Yorkykisses, tread lightly. I don't think you want made public what happens behind closed doors of "The reputable show breeders". I highly suggest you stop pressing this subject that has "nothing to do with you", or this thread. Why do you persist and feel it necessary posting this on other boards. One never knows what could come back and haunt you.

Brutus'mama · 02-02-2007, 04:53 PM

I always love to visit the show forum and the breeder section but after reading this thread I'm not sure what's going on.

It seems Yorkykisses has some agenda that has nothing to do with the original posters thread. From an outsider this looks like you're attacking or provoking. I hope I'm wrong but my gut says I'm not.

Who are you anyway? Do you show dogs? Do you breed? What's your point posting on this thread?

Just curious since you have so much to say on the subject.

yorkykisses · 02-02-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Brutus'mama

I always love to visit the show forum and the breeder section but after reading this thread I'm not sure what's going on.

It seems Yorkykisses has some agenda that has nothing to do with the original posters thread. From an outsider this looks like you're attacking or provoking. I hope I'm wrong but my gut says I'm not.

Who are you anyway? Do you show dogs? Do you breed? What's your point posting on this thread?

Just curious since you have so much to say on the subject.

Carolyn may point for posting on this thread is to explain to " k2p1e " why some show breeders will not help or even refer a novice. When a "True Show Breeder" is done wrong by someone that has not been honest it makes them not want to extend a helping hand to a novice. A novice needs a honest loving mentor to help them, but when one honest reputable veteran show breeder has been wronged it spreads like wildfire to all the other honest reputable veteran show breeders. Which makes it more difficult for people like " k2p1e " to receive the helps she would like to receive. There are true show breeders that do not always agree, but they will come to the aid of each other when one has been wronged. I believe " k2p1e" will have her dream come true, it just takes alot more determination if there are negative issues concerning new novice that is spreading like wildfire among the show world.

I do not breed, but I have and do show. My yorkshire terriers bring me great joy and I love being able to spend the time with them.

mojo · 02-02-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

My advise is always the same.."don't get mad, get even"...a show breeder told a close friend at ringside, out of my ear shot.."Pat Cupp couldn't breed and finish a dog if her life depended on it"..
I really was not ready to show at that time, but that remark got me going...so I bred a bitch, took her best puppy and finished him..beat the breeder who made the remark a number of times!.....great fun.

YOU GO GIRL!!!

baby03 · 02-02-2007, 08:43 PM

K2p1e I am sorry that you were hurt! I think that the breeder could have handled it better! I'm sorry she took the rude route!

02-02-2007, 12:42 PM	#48
izzy816 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 922	People can be so rude. See if it was me I would have responded and it would have said: "Thank you so much for your great advice and encouragement. I hope that you will have a much better day tomorrow." Im sorry you had to endure that. You know I believe that when people are mean like that, it always comes back to bite them in the butt! Karma is a @#%$. Don't let the negativity discourage you. __________________ Peace and Love, Karla and Izzy! Check out Izzy on Dogster: http://www.dogster.com/dogs/433985

02-02-2007, 04:53 PM	#50
Brutus'mama YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 1,767	I always love to visit the show forum and the breeder section but after reading this thread I'm not sure what's going on. It seems Yorkykisses has some agenda that has nothing to do with the original posters thread. From an outsider this looks like you're attacking or provoking. I hope I'm wrong but my gut says I'm not. Who are you anyway? Do you show dogs? Do you breed? What's your point posting on this thread? Just curious since you have so much to say on the subject. __________________ ~Carolyn~ Brutus' Video Montage

02-02-2007, 08:43 PM	#53
baby03 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: us Posts: 2,255	K2p1e I am sorry that you were hurt! I think that the breeder could have handled it better! I'm sorry she took the rude route! __________________ Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.

02-02-2007, 09:03 AM	#46
winniethepooch Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 200	I think k2p1e was just looking for help and advice on finding a mentor...unfortunately this thread is being drowned in a squabble of previous history. Maybe we should try to keep this on topic. I don't show or breed and will never show or breed, but I am interested in the advice that others are giving k2p1e and am hoping she finds someone who will trust her and who she can trust in return to help her start up. It would be nice if we didn't have to dig through all the off topic stuff. Obviously there is a sensitive issue here, and I'm not going to pretend to know what it's about or offer my opinion, but please if it needs to be discussed, why not take it to another thread. Just trying to keep this civil. Thanks guys!