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I hear ya!

Sad situtation all the way around....that is why I don't sell now without spay/neutering before they leave my house and why I don't sell show dogs unless I know you personally and will sell with a co-ownership and a very strict contract because you never know who will jack your pedigrees....

I think this is code for "too small and at greater risk for injuries and major health problems, but that's ok because the stupid buyers pay a boat load of money for them even though they don't meet breed standards". In other words, a greeding program.

Sad.

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So sad. This is what happens, when people don't respect/guard those lines that were established by those that came before us. Those that put blood, sweat and tears into said lines. It's all about money and putting Champion Titles on dogs and nothing else.

I'm sorry, I'm done...Just want to wish you luck with all your sells. Hope you make a fortune on your next litter. Glad your Godess of Love is able to sleep with you...:(

I agree.....very upsetting.

You are right except that there is a Code of Conduct within the Yorkshire Terrier community which has been clearly violated. (http://www.ytca.org/ethics2.html #10)

They may call it code of conduct but I call it "ethics"!

I have nothing against Biewers and I appreciate that people are trying to get their dogs recognized by AKC as a breed but I don't appreciate seeing other people's lives thrown in the gutter because some people feel as though they can "do anything they want" with no consideration for what came before them. It's dishonorable!

I'm just curious but... how would you feel if 30 years from now someone bought one of your CH's and decided to make a few bucks off of your years of breeding and showing by mixing it with a Dachsund but still use your kennel name... Honestly - how would you feel?

(Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the lady who purchased the dog from Rosemark was a member of a couple of Yorkie clubs)

Funny how this all sounds so familiar :rolleyes: especially the part about keeping the breed to it's "standard" - what's that? :D (code of conduct #1)

Code of Ethics/By-Laws -

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Very sad. As a pet owner, this underscores for me the importance of "buying the breeder first," as Mary often reminds us. A pedigree can be misleading to someone less knowledgeable.

You know, even friends can screw ya up so, I'm trying to stay true and not sell a show dog as really that is not my goal in this endeavor but to breed for myself only. Selfish maybe but that's ok :)

Donna

I should have made note that this is from the Parti Yorkshire Terrier Club's page.

That is not what it says, if your going to quote something , quote it right.
do you people have nothing better to do than sit on your computers all day long and continually belittle, harass and put down anyone that does not agree with you?
You must truly lead a boring life.
We all know for the millionth time that some of you do not like partis and that you don't agree with the ones who have them. OK, OK then let it go. I doubt your little posts are going to change anyones mind that has them.
Your constant criticism of the parti owners and breeders is getting old and actually quite mean.

Do you see any of us making comments on your dogs?? Do some of you think that yours are so perfect? I dare say they are not, Actually I seen an avatar of someone that is showing one that has a very bad topline to the point it is what I call roach back.
You cannot lump all parti breeders in the same category, Each person and breeder is responsible for what they themselves produce no matter what color it is.

Why do people on here criticize others so much?
Let’s do a quick survey. If you like being criticized and want more criticism heaped upon you every day from everyone in here, please raise your hand. Anybody? Hello? Anyone?
Criticism causes harm to others. There is no doubt about that. When someone criticizes you, ask yourself, “Is this coming from kindness? Is it loving, kind and helpful?” Chances are it does not feel that way at all.

Think of all the great experiences people could have if they didn’t feel the need to own and control so much in here.

I think its time for you to move on and let us parti owners participate in this forum without the constant badgering and harassment from the some of you parti haters.

“Dogs bark at what they don’t understand.”
" How about lets Wag more and Bark Less.”

I FELL IN LOVE WITH A WHITE PARTI YORKIE. :yorkiesar Didn't know what they were. I always have had a traditional color yorkie my Pooh Bear Now 15 years old. still here today in are home and doing well.My Hubby and I saw the pics on line and I fell head over heals in Love. I have a tiny crew here. I have 1 Parti Fm. 1 Parti Carrier FM, and one Tan Parti Male. Added my Lovey to the Group. Thats it for me. All my dogs are AKC reg. and DNA tested. Full AKC Yorkies. All are from top Champ Lines from some well know names. They made a Parti for me. So I dont understand why every one go's crazzy over Parti and Traditional. Really I Just Love Yorkies and some of a White & Parti Color. I have so few here and most all are sold as a pet only home no papers. I just hate to see everyone bashing Sue when I know shes a Loving Yorkie Mommy.

just to name a few: Lake Buena Vista Line Parti Carrier. Nikko's Full parti All are AKC reg.

I am not attacking Parti Breeders. So let's get that straight. It's not right the way this whole thing came about. I am not a Parti hater so please dont bring that to the table. We are talking about a puppy that was sold from a Champion line Dog, that should not have been sold and now his offspring will probably be bred for money, lots of money. Come on, do the math....What is a Tan Parti? Another way make money? It reminds me of the big Hipe with Labradooles! Breezeaway, I dont want to argue but you must understand, if one of your dogs got in the wrong hands you would feel the same way...

Need I say more? :(

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She did not mean she bred small yorkies, she said she was a small breeder.

That Breeds "Tan Parti's" What are Tan Parti's?

I'm still waiting to hear the answer to that one myself...

Not sure what a Tan Parti is, but they must be rare, and that would make them very expensive. I think I want one. However, before I pay big money, I expect full breeding rights.

I know, right!!

However the dog got to Sue is really not the issue as I see it. She did not buy the dog from Rosemark. It is my understanding that Marshall went thru 3 people before Susan. Now who is to blame here?
I would think it is the owner for not having a contract and the direct buyer. After that it really doesn't matter.

If I did not want my dogs in the wrong hands, I certainly would have never sold one without a contract or without being neutered or spayed.

As far as a tan parti, the parti definition, AKC states: Parti-color Two or more definite, well-broken colors, one of which must be white.
So if you have chocolate yorkies then you can have choc partis and if you have gold yorkies, you can have gold parti's. etc etc. The parti is any color of that breed with white. It is the same in Biewers, they call theirs Golddust and Biros. They are still yorkshire terriers no matter what anyone calls them.
If alot of the Traditional yorkie people care so much then how come partis are showing up in so many lines now? There are a heck of alot of Durrers, Hylan, Buena Vista, Slice of Cake, California Wild, Parquins, Wildweir parti's out there.
And if the YTCA is so dang upset about Rosemarks dog then why haven't they done something about Hylan Acres, Its been years and she is still breeding her parti carrier and showing his pups. I don't have a problem with Hylan having parti pups come from her dog, what I have a problem with is The YTCA saying its wrong to show a carrier and that is exactly what she is doing and catches no slack about it.

Yorkies have always produced off colors, and yes they used to get rid of them, but now with all the animal rights its not happening anymore.
Yes there are some people out there to make $$$$$$$$ but you cannot judge all people by the color of dog they breed.
I purchased a CH. Lake Buena Vista male, Why did I buy him? Because he was a beautiful well put together dog. Did anyone care that i bought him? Not that I know of. Did anyone ask me if I was going to breed him into the parti line? Nope. He had been thru 3 owners in his very short life.
As I See it, that is the problem, people make Champion out of them get what they want out of them then pass them on. It happens all the time, Who really cares about the dog and not the money, prestige and the ribbons?
Its too easy to buy a Champion line these days, if they cared it wouldn't be so easy would it?

I wont give any names but I can honestly say that some YTCA members have wanted to buy carriers from me to show, knowing they were carriers. You know what they always say, it has to be kept quiet.
HMMM

Anyone's name, address, and phone number is already on the internet in the form of a phone book called white pages. If you do not want your name and information online you wouldn't have your website up with all of those details listed and besides that my name, address, and phone number are online and I wasn't the one who put them there and there really is nothing anyone can do about it.

I think that you just like to argue. There is not one thing wrong with calling out an unethical breeder by kennel name and given name on an open forum. That is how we warn potential buyers and readers to stay away from those people. If the breeder doesn't like to be advocated against they should not be doing unethical breeding practices and their name would not be synonymous with negative feedback.

Take a look at most online websites with product listings. It is common practice to have many written reviews of each product based on personal experience and opinions. You don't see Bissell out there sueing because someone claimed that they hated their vaccuum do you? It's a free world and we can choose to comment and review anything we want to. It's up to the reader to discern how much of the reviews they choose to believe or not believe.

this nearly made me PUKE....the mixed up pups makes me super duper sick to my stomach....ruined lines RUINED forever. *YACK*

YUCK AGAIN...Marshall's lines are ruined forever...makes my heart so sick. in the hands of one BYB and on to the hands of another...this absolutely disgusts me.

I have been researching breeders in TX for several weeks, trying to find just the right one, not just looking for a dog. I've talked to several, and gotten advice from both Mardelin and Brooklyn. Rosemark is on my list to call, though I have pretty much settled on one of two other area breeders that I hope to meet in San Antonio next month. After reading this thread my only question is - did she ever get Marshall back or was this ever resolved with the YTCA? I don't know how a breeder could ever cope through this, knowing that a mistake was made and one of her dogs is possibly be exploited because her breeding program is so successful she was able to produce yet another champion.

Oh, and BYW. I checked out Marshall's current owner's website and for the low, low price of only $4000 I can get an intact bitch! Who is only estimated to be 4-5 pounds full grown. UGH! Can it be any clearer? This woman is in it for the M-O-N-E-Y! Poor Ms. Fett!