Where are the stickies??
 

Ok now when you go to the general area, the sick and injured, and the breeders section there are stickies for people new to read. So I am looking to show at some point and wanted to begin the learning process but there are no stickies!!:eek:
So what does a newbie do?
Ask the experienced exhibitors of course.
Could link the threads for us new people .... or are there any?
Grooming/topknots
Puppy training
Stacking
Leads
Best products for coats, travel, tables, covers, bows, etc...all of them
All products needed (types also listed..such as brushes..what kinds and sizes)
Baits that work
Lead types that are needed
Extras that make show life easier
Books to read
Videos that are helpful

PS Admin...could you sticky these here??

I have signed up for a conformation that start in Sept. Is this for me or the puppy or both? What do I need? What to expect?
Thanks again

This information would come from your mentor, showing is not anything you sould look for in a book.

I do not have a mentor. So I figured I would try to get some courses here to begin with and then go to the classes. The lady that does the classes has shown and comes with lots of recommendations.
Just was wondering why there are no stickies here in the showing section when there are in the other ones.... :mad:
Guess I will go through them page by page looking for the topics...:)

Okay, I'll make a sticky, it will say, "Interested in breeding, find a mentor." :D To the OP, many of your questions have been answered in various threads, a sticky that would cover all that information would be huge.

Mary, I know that you and a few other advise on mentoring but not everyone has a mentor readily available . There are many tips on showing, how dog shows work, selecting a mentor, selecting a show prospect, caring for a show coat, etc. that would be so beneficial to those that are considering getting into showing. I think it would be beneficial to everyone if we did have a few stickies on the basic information.

There's no formal way to make a sticky, if someone writes an informative thread, and people think it's useful, someone might PM admin to make a sticky on it. Now that we have a library, the same thing is happening there. I have read threads that suggested best reading material, and someone could request really great threads like that be placed in the library. There a a few stickies in the grooming section, that could answer some of your questions. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yorkie-grooming-talk/

The reason there are no stickies is because this information should be obtained from your mentor. If you obtained your show prospect from a breeder, said breeder should be your mentor.

Each mentor makes their decision to mentor a person based on different criteria.

I would only provide such information to someone that I'm mentoring. Mentoring is a big responsibility.

Obtaining a mentor requires a lot of effort. This is one of the things that mentors look for in a newbie. If they have the drive and desire to do right by the breed.

I didn't have a mentor when I first started....but, a lot of research on my own on how one goes about it. Attending shows is the best way to finding a mentor, joining breed clubs. Contacting officers of breed clubs. The information is out there.....you just have to do the work.

Like you said, you did not have a mentor in the beginning. In all my years of being involved in showing I was never told by anyone to get a mentor. Mentoring is something I just started reading about here on YT from a handful of people. While I think it is an excellent idea, not everyone that shows started out with a mentor. There is a lot of research that needs to be done before you even select a mentor because not all mentors are equal. I have learned a lot on YT from many of the show breeders, many who are no longer posting. Show breeders should not be afraid to share basic information, it is very educational.

Thank you.
I am not trying to cut corners, but I also am making the effort to find the information. Mentors do not fall out of the sky and I need to get some knowledge prior to that step. There is a show here in Sept that I plan on attending. I have a few names of exhibitors from my state be it they are about 2 hours away. I have contacted one person who did give me some names and will go from there. One of the names is a person who is in the next town, and being from this area I have seen some of her dogs and read some reviews on her breeding practices and from that would not have her mentor me in anything for sure.
But I was posting about this here thinking that some of the experienced people might know where certain threads are. Just as there are for people looking for a puppy. How to find a good breeder. Cpr for dogs, etc. I just feel that there should be stickies to help find some of the basic info and some reviews of the gotta haves and dont waste your money ones too.

No I didn't but, I knew what to do to find one. I researched.

However, if one doesn't have the where with all to attend dog shows to find such a mentor, saying they are not close to dog shows, speaks volumes to me. They won't put the effort into dog showing.

I agree not everyone started out with a mentor, however, they quickly found out that without one they weren't going to get anywhere.

I will say that there is information on how to obtain a mentor....what to look for. There's plenty of articles in the Yorkie Magazines on what to look for. What I will say is that we are looking for good people to mentor, but there are few newbies that really have the qualities that will do the best for the breed. Remember mentors look into newbies heart.

First of all it is not that I do not have the "where with all to attend dog shows" it is that I have a disability that limits my driving and walking. I want to do the prep work and hand my dog over to a handler ringside. I have attended shows years ago but have not been in some years due to raising human kids and working full time. I have have the time and want to put the "effort" into it. I just am not able to get to the shows and mentors that are hours away, it has nothing to do with my not putting in the effort.
I have done some homework and I need to do alot more. That was why I came to this section and began looking. I just wanted to know why no stickies with some general information to start out. I just did not realize that that question would lead to that??:confused: guess I should not be surprised...:(

I understand where you're coming from and your situation. However, understand the information you are requesting is not handed over lightly and made available to just anyone. It was entrusted to exhibitors by those that came before us. We have to know who we're handing over the reigns to.

Basic information is out there.

I agree that is would be nice to have a sticky for just the basic guidelines for someone interested in showing. Like Mary said, the first place to start would be to go to shows. If you are serious about learning about showing then my recommendation is that you take your time, study the Yorkshire Terrier standard, go to shows and meet some show breeders. You really need a good understanding of what a quality yorkie should look like. There are many different 'looks' in the show ring, all may fall within the standard but everyone has their own preference as to what they like in a yorkie. As for the different products to use for show dogs, there are so many and everyone has their favorites. What works for one dog might not work for another.

I will say that I am mentoring a couple of people right now. One doesn't have my breeding but, approached me via a PM. We met and we've been working together for about a year. She's entered her boy in her's and his first dog show this weekend. I'll be attending with her to show her the ins and outs and groom her boy.

Mary, I think that is wonderful. I hope she does well. I know she has worked so hard leading up to this. Will you be coming to any Texas shows anytime this year or next?

Like I said, anyone can request a certain thread be made a sticky, and anyone can feel free to sort through all the advice given on this forum and find what they think are the best or most through threads on any given subject, and request that they be made stickies. You can also write you own. On the other hand, I can fully understand why some people don't want to make it "too easy," once something is made a sticky, some people might think that's all they need to know about that. For example, Here's a thread on reading material, if someone thinks it's a good thread, they can request it be made a sticky, or placed in the library. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/bre...ggestions.html

Got my plane reservations and will arrive on September 7th for Bluebonnet. My new little girl in tow.

I would love to go and meet you. I have never been to the Bluebonnet Specialty. My mil lives in Canton so I might try to make it and then spend the night with her.

September 17th is the date. Plan to attend the dinner that evening......The show is being dedicated to Carl Trehus who passed away in May at 54. He was a past YTCA President/Treasurer. President of the DFW Toy Club and Bluebonnet Treasurer/President. The dog world lost a wonderful man.

Toy Specialty is the 18th and 19th.

Thanks, I will try to make it.

The first thing I would tell anyone that is interested into showing is attend as many shows as possible and study the yorkshire terrier standard and try and develop an eye for what is the best representation of the breed. Then I would find that mentor that would be willing to take you under their wing and show you the in and outs of dog showing and grooming tips. So much goes into just grooming the yorkshire terrier. Then how you would present the yorkie, the judges, the points ect.
There is the website sweetyblue.com I think that has good DVD's for grooming and showing and all sorts of stuff. I do recommend that.

I offered some things to start off but I am leary sometimes of who I help online as far as this goes because I don't know what's inside one's heart and desire for the love of this wonderful breed and not just wanting to obtain a CH for profit. PLEASE I"m not saying this is you at all just saying for others.

Donna

:thumbup::thumbup: Agree 100%

I'm still trying to figure out how having a champion can increase profits. Around here champion sired pups don't go for any more than any other pet pups. It cost quite a bit to finish my boy. I did it because I really enjoyed it and he was worthy.
This sport can be very exclusive and cliquie, they don't make it easy for new comers to join in. If you really love it though, don't give up. Go to the conformation class and learn as much as you can. My first mentors (show people who befriended me) weren't even yorkie people. Connor stood patiently for hours while I learned to wrap and I have tons of product that I'll never use. Slowly you'll get to know people and someone may even offer to help.
I hope someone with a big heart takes you under their wing and you succeed. There are too few new people coming into this sport and hanging in there for the long run. The old timers are dying off and with them a wealth of knowledge and experience. Between all of that and the financial straits that AKC is experiencing I fear for this sport. There may not be a strong enough force to fight off PETA and the like to save the sport of dogs much less the breed.

I shall start with your last paragraph. Good for you that you have signed up for conformation classes. This is for both you and your puppy.
You will need a show lead, and some bait-aka treats. Poo bags in case ur pup has an accident. Crate to leave pup in if that is necessary.

You should expect some lecture time as part of the first class, instruction on how to place, put on a show lead, the mechanics of how the ring works, how to hold the lead, how to pace your dog, how to stack your dog on the table All of this might not be in the first class but will likely cover several sessions.

Okay Kirsten McGregor has some good videos out there for show preparation, topknots, and good care for the show dog. Sweetyblu website may carry them.

Many of your other questions take a whole lot of time to respond to, and as well each and every topic has lots of opinions on, and so many ifs ands or buts; that it would be pretty complex to give a complete overview of dog grooming products for example.

for example: What shampoo and conditioner should I use for my puppy's coat? cough; well let's see what kind of coat does he have? Answer I'm not sure. What does it feel like? Answer: Geesh soft I guess.
It can be so much easier to be in person with your mentor, have her/him feel the coat and say, awh this is a (xyz) type of coat, and I've had luck with this type of coat with the following products.

If you goto the grooming thread you will see lots of information on shampoos n conditions.

Mary is bluebonnet in Kentucky if so, gosh dang it I'll be in Kentucky but leaving on the 5th.

Thank you very much I will go there and search out the videos to start with. And the other items I will add to the shopping list. I also spent the last few hours looking over some of the grooming threads and already have the morrocan light oil, spray bottles, etc. So it is a start and thank you.
I do hope to find a mentor close by, never thought that it did not have to be a yorkie person. I will start tomorrow looking into other show people, I know of one here that shows Labs and he and I go to the same vet and have joked on occasion. So I may go through my vet to see about that.
Thank you for the suggestions..

:thumbup::thumbup: So true, we should rethink the attitude. If you want to attract and keep people in the show world, you need to broaden your horizons a bit.

Showing a dog is a competition a sport if you like, and yes it is serious to judge the breed worthy qualities of the competitors. But we need to make room and to welcome those passionate dedicated people to the breed who for a number of reasons may want to show, but are either indecisive about getting into the show world, or just want to have a CH on their beloved dog, and not do one thing to breed him/her. Or who have agreements with their breeder to show, maybe breed once/twice, and then retire the boy/girl.

There are many variables involved.

It is clear to me that the reputable registries are facing challenging times. And those times affect all of us be we, breeders, fanciers, pet owners, et al.

In fact wouldn't it be rich if AKC passed a requirement that all HVB must secure AKC Ch's prior to breeding their dogs and registering their litters;)

Thank you Tami. I am excited and have been doing lots of research. I will be going to the show here in Sept. and will attempt to make contacts with a lady that is within 2 hours from me. There is another lady that I am making plans with to evaluate my show potentials. And of course the class I start in Sept. I emailed that lady and she gave me the "low down" on the classes. They are for me and the pup and that mine will be the perfect age to begin. She will show me stacking, leading, plus conditioning tips, attitude and confidence building, etc. (for me and the pup :rolleyes:). She stated to go to Show Dog, Grooming and Pet Supplies - Cherrybrook for the lead. They have quite a few there so I will have to check into which one is the best.
So I have begun the journey and will not let a few people scare me away. I did that years ago and have regretted it ever since. I did not have a thick hide and just walked away disgusted and hurt. Not again will I allow people to do that, I will control my emotions.
I am not just championing a dog to get more money. Up here the pups go for the same money if they have no papers, limited registration, or full registration. The general public do not even know what papers are let alone what a registry is. So I could easily go to the APRI or the CKC (american) one, and champion out something of my own that is not worthy to get that CH title. So I do not buy into the CH a dog to get more money for the pups. If you are buying a pet CH does not matter in their eyes for the most part.
And I am excited, nervous, but most important determined not to be meek this time around and stand my ground.
So to the supporters THANK YOU again. :)

Could a YT savvy person tell me step by step how to link a thread to this one so that as I find the information I can link it here for the next person who is looking into showing? Please and thank you:D