coat oil

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by PrestigeousYT

I have found that straight nutrogena light sesame formula is what has worked with my dogs and I have grown some awesome coats and many without much wrapping at all. Key is keeping it clean
I have tried many products and always go back to this. I am careful not to get it soaked into the skin, I spray the comb and comb thru the top part of the coat so not to get it soaked into the skin, I take the coat and comb underneath and hold it up and then from where the comb is, I mist on the nutrogena and I do put it on a bit heavy.
This is the first show coat I grew.
He is 4 1/2 years old here in this pic. I wasn't sure I was going to like a black background with him but the lighting really showed off his coat.. and after all that work we may as well have some great shots of the coat LOL
But everyone has to find that product that works for them and their dogs and helps them obtain that gorgeous coat in the end.



Deana
Prestigeous Yorkies

Deana I have to say I feel the Nutrogena Light Sesame Formula you told me about is helping my ladies coats grow! I love the smell of them. I did notice them scratching also, now that I know how to apply it with a comb and not my hands lol (LEARING HERE LOL) maybe they won't scratch as much...Or it could be the Vellus Clarifying Shampoo I used on them I noticed their scratching then...So I went back to the Durrstede and it helped them...I think I will try the Summer Winds Clarifying Shampoo and Conditioner on them and see how that helps them...

Galahads' face is better but not much lol...Hes got problem with rubbing anything out of his coat...His body is just to die for...So thick and straight and shines so beautiful naturally...It's his head I can't get not to dry out...His body isn't dry at all...Makes no sense to me!

Thanks for all your Precious Wisdom on their coats. I dearly love it. Hugs, Lee

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I fill the sink up to Radar's knees with warm water and then I put a cup of the summerwinds in the sink with the water and pour over him for about 3 to 4 minutes and I don't rinse it out and I towel dry him and then use the blow dyer to dry him and then I wrap him

Donna I'm going to try the Summerwinds on Sages & Galahads coats and see how it does for them. Sages is my worse coat to try to grow out... It's very slow growing and so brittle at the ends and around her face. Galahads head it my trouble.

I'm going to keep using the Neutrogena Light Sesame Formula on Weezie and Sofie...Going to try the Summerwinds Clarifying Shampoo on them for the Vellus I feel is causing them to itch so bad.

Then I'll report back here after a few months and let you all know what I think of all of them and how their coats grew with them all...I don't show so I can be everyones tester here lol...I just want long coats on all my Yorkies...I know I'm batty for it but I adore Yorkies in long coats. I don't wrap any of my Yorkies.

How often do you bath when in the Summerwinds?

Is the Summerwinds oily enough to allow scrunchies to slide out???

My 3 gals since they all 3 had/going through their 1st heat cycles are pulling their own ponys out...Drives me batty...Sofies bangs are a mess now....And her and Sage pull Weezies out all the time, while playing. And now Weezie is taking her own pony out and she is still in her heat cycle. I'm afraid to use bands for the fear of them breaking their coat even more...I made sure today that all nails we're filed really super smooth for them all as not to tear their coat if they take ponys out.

Any thoughts on how to break them from this bad, bad habit??? Thanks so much and hugs, Lee

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by bjh

For my show boy I bathe him using #1 All Systems Super-Cleaning and Conditioning Shampoo. In a quart bottle I add 2 tablespoons of #1 All Systems Pure Lanolin Plus With Hair Emollients, plus 2 tablespoons of #1 All Systems Super-rich Conditioner; fill bottle with warm water, shake well and pour over your dogs coat, slowly working it in, then rinse dog with warm water and blow him dry. The coat will be oily but will not mat. You should bathe them every four days when they are in oil. You do not have to wrap them but if their coat is very long you might need to put some scrunchies on them to keep the coat off the floor and to keep the male dogs from peeing on their coats. I am still new to this so I really just saying what I have been doing. I know some people use Neutrogena Body Oil (fragrance free) and add that to water and pour over the coat. I know what works for one dog might not work for another so sometimes it is trial and error. I have a hard time keeping scrunchies on my boy but his coat is getting to the point where I need to do something if I am going to continue showing him. He just has one point toward his championship and he has turned out bigger than I had hoped but he has been a great learning experience for me. I have attached a picture of him; I had just taken him out of oil and he was still a little damp and not brushed out real well yet.

Barbara I don't know how in the world I missed this thread!!! I wanted to tell you I think your boy is just handsome as can be!! Hugs, Lee

[Ladyhawk]

Lee, Be cautious with the Summerwinds products. It made Connor and Denali both get the worst dandruff you have even seen! I think they must be allergic to petroleum products and fear that Sage may have the same reaction. Poor Connor looks like all of his skin is just peeling away!

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Lee, Be cautious with the Summerwinds products. It made Connor and Denali both get the worst dandruff you have even seen! I think they must be allergic to petroleum products and fear that Sage may have the same reaction. Poor Connor looks like all of his skin is just peeling away!

Tami I guess I better just use the Nutrogena Light Sesame Formula as they never scratched until I used the Vellus Clarifying Shampoo, Regular Vellus Shampoo and the Vellus Conditioner...And Sages coat is just now starting to grow!!! It is getting pretty on her body but her face & legs isn't growing much compared to her body. Did Connors coat do this too? The Vellus doesn't bother the boys & Weezie at all...Just Sofie and Sage...Must be something in it.

I need a good but gentle Clarifying Shampoo to wash the oil out once a Month for them...Would the Durrstede be considered a Clarifying Shampoo??? I use it now all the time only due to the scratching...I leave the Shampoo diluted on them for 3 minutes and the Conditioner in for 10 minutes on all 5 of them every week. Any thoughts on a good Clarifying Shampoo??? Thanks for your insite and wisdom on Summerwinds. Hugs, Lee

[flipflop]

Thanks so much! I'll try it as soon as I have my boy. The enthusiastic reviews seem to say it is the best, thanks, great help to describe in detail how you do it. But how you keep the coat clean? Lots of bathing? Or do you keep them in suits? How much bathing can a Yorkie coat stand?

[bjh]

Originally Posted by flipflop

Thanks so much! I'll try it as soon as I have my boy. The enthusiastic reviews seem to say it is the best, thanks, great help to describe in detail how you do it. But how you keep the coat clean? Lots of bathing? Or do you keep them in suits? How much bathing can a Yorkie coat stand?

All coats are different so sometimes it is trial and error. I have recently started using Coat Handler shampoo and conditioner and I like it also. When you keep a coat in oil you just have to bathe them about every 4 or 5 days. Once the coat gets floor length it is best to wrap it or put scrunchies on it.

[flipflop]

thanks! Tell me, please, what in heaven's name is a scrunchie??? I am German and only know the wrappers from the Irish breeders....

[bjh]

Lee, you might try 15:1 Clarifying Shampoo and the Coat Handler conditioner or the #1 All Systems products, I like both.

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by flipflop

thanks! Tell me, please, what in heaven's name is a scrunchie??? I am German and only know the wrappers from the Irish breeders....

I think that is cute that you don't know what a Scrunchie is. It's something that we here take something such as a Scrunchie for granted (I couldn't live without them with my daughters or my Yorkies ) and don't even realize that there are other people out there who don't know what they are.

They are like hair bands or rubber bands...But made of terry cloth...and there is some made of cloth....Ladies, little girls and teens wear them all the time... My little and older girls wear the cloth Scrunchies all the time with their hair pulled back in a pony tail.

They don't pull Yorkies coat out as easy as band or rubber bands do...This is what I use ONLY on my Yorkies even when Teddys coat was longer I just divided his coat up and put it "LOOSELY" in Scrunchies...

The key is having them looser so they don't pull NO coat at all...This way they aren't wanting to pull them out as much...If you get one little strand of coat to tight and it pulls, then look out they will rub, pull, bite whatever they can to get them out, then there goes their coats broken...You can go look at my photos to see the Scruchines in my gals bangs.

If you would like some samples let me know and I'll send you some....I have tons and can get more...I just need you to PM me your address. Hope this helps U to understand our Scruchies here better. Lee

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by bjh

Lee, you might try 15:1 Clarifying Shampoo and the Coat Handler conditioner or the #1 All Systems products, I like both.

Barbara I just don't know what to use on them...I'm so afraid of messing thier coats up...They are so pretty now...I'd hate to damage them.

I wish I could get samples of them... I need to go to the website and see if I can get some samples, I should of done this with the Vellus...I bought all big bottles.

I could try on my Yorkies from my lines and not Sage due to Connor her daddy having reaction to it...I need something really gentle for Sage she is my hard coat to care for...Her coat breaks so very easy...I can't pull at all when I brush or comb her out...It's really hard when you have a Yorkie with a Coat such as Sages...

Her snout (Nose and beard) below her eyes and her paws on top and bottom is so slow growing. But her Body coat is just now getting longer...I trimmed in between her paw pads yesterday for the 2nd time in a year...That's how slow her coat grows. Thanks for the tip...Hugs, Lee

[flipflop]

thanks, Lee, I think I know what you mean. I used something like that when I had long hair, ages ago...
I could see on one pic how you do it, you just need 4 scrunchies for the body hair? And they stay in? Do you wrap them up over the back so they don't hang on the floor? How long are their coats?
Something else: what do you do when they are in oil? You can't touch the dogs, do you keep them in a crate for how long before you wash it out?
Sounds all like a lot of work but I would be more bothered about the dog's quality of life and freedom. Do you let them run free in the garden like other dogs or do you keep the scrunchies in, is it not easier to gently roll the coat into a loose fitting suit for going out and playing. Also for males so they can't soil their hair on their legs when they mark all the trees etc.?
Sorry for all the stupid questions, but I would like to do it right once I have my boy and find the best solution for him and me.
Did I see somewhere that you can tell the coat colour and texture from the shine in a pup's eyes? Like if they shine green in the light the coat will be silky, if they shine blue it will be thick... or vice versa??? Of course, all their eyes are really brown!

thanks again for al your help. Sorry, the pics are not too clear to see how exactly you put in the scrunchies.(Cute name, by the way!
And your dogs are very cute, too!

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

Lee, Be cautious with the Summerwinds products. It made Connor and Denali both get the worst dandruff you have even seen! I think they must be allergic to petroleum products and fear that Sage may have the same reaction. Poor Connor looks like all of his skin is just peeling away!

Summerwinds is a great product "IF" your dog doesn't flake with it. I have one dog it doesn't work with because of the type of coat and he got flakes. But on my fine silk coated dogs I found Summerwinds to work. On the heavier or modified silk coats I find Summerwinds not to work as well...
I hope this helps also Just like humans what works for one dog might not work for others. Like someone pointed out it's trial and error
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[Ladyhawk]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Summerwinds is a great product "IF" your dog doesn't flake with it. I have one dog it doesn't work with because of the type of coat and he got flakes. But on my fine silk coated dogs I found Summerwinds to work. On the heavier or modified silk coats I find Summerwinds not to work as well...
I hope this helps also Just like humans what works for one dog might not work for others. Like someone pointed out it's trial and error
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Denali is slightly modified but Connor is silk as is his puppy Preston. They just seem to have sensitive skin. All of the petroleum based oils that I have tried causes major flaking on them. I've ordered some #1 All Systems Lanolin oil for them. I know that when I was nursing they had me use Lanolin on my nipples to protect and moisturize so I figure since it is all natural and safe for even a baby to ingest than it's worth a try. At present Connor isn't in oil at all and is just banded with scrunchies. I've already noticed some breakage so I'm hoping that the new stuff gets here soon and that it works for him. They are such little individuals just like we are.

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

Summerwinds is a great product "IF" your dog doesn't flake with it. I have one dog it doesn't work with because of the type of coat and he got flakes. But on my fine silk coated dogs I found Summerwinds to work. On the heavier or modified silk coats I find Summerwinds not to work as well...
I hope this helps also Just like humans what works for one dog might not work for others. Like someone pointed out it's trial and error
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Donna, that might leave Galahad, Weezie and Teddy out then for their coats is very very heavy and then I don't want to try it on Sage due to Connor. Might be able to use it on Sofie her's is a fine silk...I know it's all about trial and error lol...Guess I'll just have to try a little and see. Thanks for letting me know. Hugs, Lee