YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community


Welcome to the YorkieTalk.com Forums Community - the community for Yorkshire Terriers.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. You will be able to chat with over 35,000 YorkieTalk members, read over 2,000,000 posted discussions, and view more than 15,000 Yorkie photos in the YorkieTalk Photo Gallery after you register. We would love to have you as a member!

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please click here to contact us.

Go Back   YorkieTalk.com Forums - Yorkshire Terrier Community > Yorkie News & Site Announcements
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar JavaChat Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-20-2011, 04:54 PM   #16
Donating YT 4000 Club Member
 
Rhetts_mama's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Georgia
Posts: 5,959
Blog Entries: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yorkiemini View Post
"Researchers in Detroit analyzed dust samples collected from 173 homes one month after a newborn baby was brought home to check allergen levels from hypoallergenic dogs and other breeds."

Research is my "schtix" and this study is flawed.
Who knows what those homes were like prior to bringing home a baby? Could have been a garbage dump. And what do they consider and allergic reaction. None of this is clear.

I know many, many folks who can tell you they have had dogs they could not tolerate and then found a breed they could. There are many factors involved and this study is too short and with too many variables to be accepted as the truth.

Gee, O.K., I need another glass of wine........
I agree it needs more study and a larger sample. However, it shouldn't be written off completely due to antecdotal evidence. While most people tend to associate allergies to just fur (because it's the most common) it's possible to be allergic to fur, dander (dead skin cells) and even saliva or any combination of those.
__________________
Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.
Rhetts_mama is offline   Reply With Quote
Welcome Guest!
Not Registered?

Join today and remove this ad!

Old 07-26-2011, 08:18 AM   #17
YT Addict
 
nychelse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Manhattan, NY
Posts: 250
Default

I hope that I dont have any reaction to my new puppy.. I will just have to get a prescription then.. oh well... cuz umm im not giving him up #nope #iwont
nychelse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 04:38 PM   #18
YT Addict
 
aproctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria, MN USA
Posts: 388
Default

There is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. There are just certain breeds that are less likely to give people a reaction because the smaller the dog the less allergens it has. See article below:

Pet allergy: Are there hypoallergenic dog breeds? - MayoClinic.com

I have also watched Dogs 101 on Animal Planet and they also say there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. Breeders label dogs with that so they can charge more money for them~my brother fell for it.

I myself am allergic to dogs and cats. I have severe reactions to certain cats and to certain dogs. I take zyrtec everyday because I hate the allergies but I LOVE MY DOGS!
I have a lab springer mix and I have been allergic to him since he was a puppy. I know they say exposure to pups early on can supposedly give you more immunity to the dog but that was not the case with him.
Now my yorkie I got when she was 2 1/2 years old and I have NEVER had a reaction to her at all~I am still taking the zyrtec but if I forget to take it I still don't react to her and she is up in my face all the time.
I just think there are certain small dogs that have less dander therefore they are less likely to give people with allergies a reaction.
__________________
Ann 's:Lucy and :Tubby
aproctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 04:40 PM   #19
YT Addict
 
aproctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria, MN USA
Posts: 388
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Namor View Post
I have no problem with my yorkie. I am very allergic to dogs that shed and have an undercoat. I can't be without my inhaler. I can't even breathe when I enter a home with a cat. I even react to people who have dog hair and dander on them if they sit next to me. Thank goodness I can love my little boy and breathe!!!!!
I understand completely I have asthma that is exacerbated by allergies and dogs and cats set that off. I have a lab springer who I am allergic to and a yorkie whom I am not but I take zyrtec and singulair everyday so that I can live with my precious furbabies!!
__________________
Ann 's:Lucy and :Tubby
aproctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 05:43 PM   #20
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie!
Donating Member
 
Nancy1999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 25,396
Blog Entries: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aproctor View Post
There is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. There are just certain breeds that are less likely to give people a reaction because the smaller the dog the less allergens it has. See article below:

Pet allergy: Are there hypoallergenic dog breeds? - MayoClinic.com

I have also watched Dogs 101 on Animal Planet and they also say there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog. Breeders label dogs with that so they can charge more money for them~my brother fell for it.

I myself am allergic to dogs and cats. I have severe reactions to certain cats and to certain dogs. I take zyrtec everyday because I hate the allergies but I LOVE MY DOGS!
I have a lab springer mix and I have been allergic to him since he was a puppy. I know they say exposure to pups early on can supposedly give you more immunity to the dog but that was not the case with him.
Now my yorkie I got when she was 2 1/2 years old and I have NEVER had a reaction to her at all~I am still taking the zyrtec but if I forget to take it I still don't react to her and she is up in my face all the time.
I just think there are certain small dogs that have less dander therefore they are less likely to give people with allergies a reaction.
There may be no such thing as hypoallergenic dogs, but I know there are hyperallergenic dogs! I don't need a study to prove it to me; all I have to do is pet certain dogs.
__________________
Nancy1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 06:22 PM   #21
YT Addict
 
aproctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria, MN USA
Posts: 388
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy1999 View Post
There may be no such thing as hypoallergenic dogs, but I know there are hyperallergenic dogs! I don't need a study to prove it to me; all I have to do is pet certain dogs.


Oh I agree with you. I have pet some dogs and I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my head they were so itchy!!!
__________________
Ann 's:Lucy and :Tubby
aproctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2011, 07:17 PM   #22
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie!
Donating Member
 
Nancy1999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 25,396
Blog Entries: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by aproctor View Post

Oh I agree with you. I have pet some dogs and I thought my eyes were going to pop out of my head they were so itchy!!!
I know, me too, and it can happen so fast!
__________________
Nancy1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 12:30 PM   #23
YT Addict
 
Dolcesmama_xoxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA
Posts: 474
Blog Entries: 1
Default

Yes, there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog or cat. The only difference is dogs with fur hold a lot more allergens/dander because i guess it sticks better to the fur. Dogs with hair it doesnt cling to the hair as much, but their skin produces the same amount of allergen/dander it just goes somewhere else, i guess out into the air LOL Soooo the study that the OP posted tested the room right? well there would be the same amount if not more allergens in the room because its not sticking to the dog (with the "hypoallergenic breeds") and there would be less with the "fur" breeds because most of it is on the dog.
That is my understanding of it. Let me know what you think
__________________
DOLCE & BENTLEY
LOVE my little MUNCHKINS
Dolcesmama_xoxo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 01:00 PM   #24
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie!
Donating Member
 
Nancy1999's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arizona
Posts: 25,396
Blog Entries: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolcesmama_xoxo View Post
Yes, there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog or cat. The only difference is dogs with fur hold a lot more allergens/dander because i guess it sticks better to the fur. Dogs with hair it doesnt cling to the hair as much, but their skin produces the same amount of allergen/dander it just goes somewhere else, i guess out into the air LOL Soooo the study that the OP posted tested the room right? well there would be the same amount if not more allergens in the room because its not sticking to the dog (with the "hypoallergenic breeds") and there would be less with the "fur" breeds because most of it is on the dog.
That is my understanding of it. Let me know what you think
Yeah, I agree with your theory. I don't get sick when I just walk into a room with dogs, I get sick when I touch the dogs, so testing the air quality seems pointless. I’ve read that dander tends to stick to things, so it’s probably not floating around in the air. I think people misunderstand the word hypoallergenic and think it means it won't cause any allergies, hypo means low or less than normal, so there is no totally non-allergenic dog, but I really believe that there are hypoallergenic dogs, and the yorkie is one of them. As you said, the hair instead of fur may be part of the difference.
__________________
Nancy1999 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 06:22 PM   #25
YT Addict
 
aproctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria, MN USA
Posts: 388
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy1999 View Post
I know, me too, and it can happen so fast!
Yes it does and I have asthma that is usually set off by allergies and if it doesn't make my eyes itch then eventually I will have a harder time breathing....it is not good. I have no reaction to my yorkie and I hold her up to my face all the time!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolcesmama_xoxo View Post
Yes, there is no such thing as a hypoallergenic dog or cat. The only difference is dogs with fur hold a lot more allergens/dander because i guess it sticks better to the fur. Dogs with hair it doesnt cling to the hair as much, but their skin produces the same amount of allergen/dander it just goes somewhere else, i guess out into the air LOL Soooo the study that the OP posted tested the room right? well there would be the same amount if not more allergens in the room because its not sticking to the dog (with the "hypoallergenic breeds") and there would be less with the "fur" breeds because most of it is on the dog.
That is my understanding of it. Let me know what you think
I agree that there is no such thing. I have heard the smaller the dog the less the dander which is why we don't react to yorkies. I do remember being very allergic to an old roommates dog and she was a cocker spaniel...cutest thing but I got all stuffed up I would get close to her or pet her...they have a thicker coat and may even have the under coat too.
I don't know why we react to some and not others but I don't like the fact that breeders make more money by advertising hypo-allergenic dogs.
__________________
Ann 's:Lucy and :Tubby
aproctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2011, 07:40 PM   #26
YT 1000 Club Member
 
smartpuppiepets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beverly
Posts: 1,042
Default

Well, if the size of the dog was the issue, my husband would not react as bad as he does to Pom's... he can not even stand in a roon with one and he will start a severe reaction. Also, if size was the matter, when you put too many small dogs together would cause him a reaction, well, he is not one tiny bit , not even an itty bitty allergic to our yorkies and Shih's all together.
So they can say whatever they want to say . There are some breeds of dogs that do not cause allergies to my husband, none, not at all. And other breeds and animals he not stand.
I do not need much more than that .
XOXO
__________________
"The reason a dog has many friends is because it wags it's tail instead of it's tong " [I]Smartpuppiepets@yahoo.com /I][
smartpuppiepets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2011, 08:53 AM   #27
YT Addict
 
aproctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria, MN USA
Posts: 388
Default

I don't think it is just the size it also has to do with the type of fur vs hair. Yorkies have hair and I believe Pom's have very thick fur with an undercoat.
I agree that Yorkies seem hypoallergenic I just don't think any dog should be labelled with hypoallergenic if they are not~I don't think it's okay for breeders and pet stores to get away with getting more money because they brand certain dogs with hypoallergenic.

Even hairless dogs carry a certain amount of dander which can cause allergies~all people react differently.

I just think there are certain dogs that are better for for people with allergies (and one of them is yorkies) and certain dogs that make allergies worse.

I am the same way as your husband I can be around one type of dog and get no reaction and be around another and I won't be able to breathe and I want to scratch my eyes out!


Quote:
Originally Posted by smartpuppiepets View Post
Well, if the size of the dog was the issue, my husband would not react as bad as he does to Pom's... he can not even stand in a roon with one and he will start a severe reaction. Also, if size was the matter, when you put too many small dogs together would cause him a reaction, well, he is not one tiny bit , not even an itty bitty allergic to our yorkies and Shih's all together.
So they can say whatever they want to say . There are some breeds of dogs that do not cause allergies to my husband, none, not at all. And other breeds and animals he not stand.
I do not need much more than that .
XOXO
__________________
Ann 's:Lucy and :Tubby
aproctor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2011, 09:45 AM   #28
YT 1000 Club Member
 
smartpuppiepets's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beverly
Posts: 1,042
Default

Well, i understand some people may be allergic to anything, everything, somethings, it is like that with foods, perfumes, fabrics and pretty much anything in life.
To be honest with you, i believe when someone is looking for a hypoallergenic breed or advertising one dog or breed as hypoallergenic, the aim is not to get more money, but to describe the breed or the dog. Some breeds cause more allergies to more people than others. I have heard of people who are allergic to saliva, therefore any animal , including humans, can cause them allergies.
I personally have nothing against the word. Our Shihtzus have an under coat and my husband is not allergic to them either. We have discussed this with our family doctor several times, they happen to own one of our dogs, and often we bring the subject into our conversation, she also uses the word and when people who have allergies are looking for a dog she recommends them to check the breeds that are called "hypoallergenic s". I believe for some , there will never be a totally hypoallergenic dog or breed no matter what, but for a great number of people who suffer from pet allergies and are not bothered by hypoallergenic breeds the word stand just fine. As with anything in life, the point of view may change the perception of the object.
I usually do not see just any dog labelled hypoallergenic, just the breeds that cause less reaction to most people who are allergic.
XOXO
__________________
"The reason a dog has many friends is because it wags it's tail instead of it's tong " [I]Smartpuppiepets@yahoo.com /I][

Last edited by smartpuppiepets; 08-09-2011 at 09:46 AM. Reason: misspelling
smartpuppiepets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2011, 10:11 AM   #29
Donating YT 2000 Club Member
 
KazzyK810's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Michigan USA & Sheffield UK
Posts: 4,119
Default

You've gotta wonder if how clean a person keeps their home and how often the dog is bathed plays a role in allergy symptoms.

I've grown up with yorkies & never had a problem with them, but then I went in a person's house with couple of yorkies and definately had a reaction after petting them. But those dogs are rarely bathed & the house was dusty, so I'm guessing more dander laying around?
__________________
Karan & ZoE
(Chelsea )
KazzyK810 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-10-2011, 02:24 PM   #30
Senior Yorkie Talker
 
anevarez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hebbronville, Texas
Posts: 243
Default

I have to disagree... I would get hives from my English Bulldog. I am just fine with my two Yorkies.
anevarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Google
 

SHOP NOW: Amazon :: eBay :: Buy.com :: Newegg :: PetStore :: Petco :: PetSmart


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2003 - 2018 YorkieTalk.com
Privacy Policy - Terms of Use

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167