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red98vett · 06-17-2005, 04:26 PM

Your poor little baby - I can't add any medical help but I do want to send you best thoughts for your baby- I hope he pulls through this - I do know of a little yorkie that came down with pneumonia very young and DID pull through ....she was in the hospital for 2 weeks ...it took a week on antibiotics for her to start showing improvement......Good luck with your little one...

eensor · 06-17-2005, 04:27 PM

I'd be calling other vets too! I'm also a HUGE believer in vet school clinics if there is one at a university near you. Where are you located?

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-17-2005, 09:10 PM

Yes, please get some other educated opinions even if over the phone, like when is a tracheal wash normally prescribed, etc. If you can't move the puppy, have the vet come there to see him. I t might cost more but will be worth it. I want someone to save this baby. Did you research tracheal wash on the internet. My dog had kennel cough for 6 weeks and I never heard of that procedure.

I will keep him in my thoughts and hope he pulls through without liver damage.

snoody2004 · 06-17-2005, 09:59 PM

Oh..Wow
Pebbles had kennel cough for 2 months but never had Pneumonia/or tracheal wash~Thanks god~

Well we took her to the vet and the vet gave her medicine and it never worked until he gave her a shot~Really STRONG~
And by days she was getting better
But it was horribble...I am very glad that your dog has benn treated good
I see has your doig been near another dog,When you bought it from the breeder?
It might be that
Thats what happend to Pebbles when we bought her from the breeder the breeder had her with other dogs and thats a real good way to get bad kenel cough!
Hope your dogs feeling better
Where all in your prayers
Id call another vet to see what that vets said

blykmyk44 · 06-18-2005, 04:35 PM

Yes Chewy was around other puppies when he purchased him, as of now only one other came down with a cough. Im interested that I keep hearing about puppies that had Kennel Cough for months and yet never had this procedure. Also, this shot was never even offered...

Joy · 06-18-2005, 06:24 PM

I read this thread yesterday and though I have no good advice for you I wanted you to know I was thinking of you and your little pup.. Hop everything is going well.. Have you any more information? Is he doing better? Did you find another vet?
Keeping you in my thoughts..
Joy

b_veselka · 06-19-2005, 08:48 PM

If Kennel Cough is a virus then why would the doc prscribe antibiotics? they help w/bacterial infections not viruses. I was always under the impression that not much could be done about Kennel cough other than cleaning the space that the dog is in and letting it run its course. My weimaraner had kennel cough and it did get to the point that the vet gave him the nasal meds ( I think it was the vaccine for kennel cough- still did not see how that would work when the dog already had it

) the vet said that it might not do anything but that it was worth the try. Just be careful if you have others (dogs) in the house because kennel cough is very contaigous and if this is truely what your baby started out with you need to disinfect his things and all areas where he has been. When my weimaraner had it a few years ago I had a litter of yorkies and a litter of weimies. Both mom and dad weimaraner and pups all got it. I do not know where he picked it up (he was quite a roamer before he was neutured), but it spread fast. My weimaraners were never in the "kennel" situation. They did stay primarily in the opened garage, but never urinated or deficated in there. The vet told me that simply allowing my Yorkie mom to run through the garage to the outdoors to go to the bathroom could have been enough to infect her!!! Luckily she or the baby yorkies never got it, but 2 of the weimaraner pups passed away! We had to bleach our entire garage and bathe the dogs in antibacterial soap. It really was a nightmare! Mom and dad weimaraner recovered fine and one baby lived and was healthy after the virus had run it's course. The vet told us that w/pups that the nasal drainage and throat inflammation from coughing is too much to handle sometimes and they can suffocate. I am sorry to hear about your pup but this is something for all dog owners to be aware of- especially if your dog might come in contact w/other dogs you do not know!

Rory's Ma · 06-21-2005, 10:57 AM

It has been a few days, how is the little puppy doing? RM

Tjay_89 · 06-24-2006, 04:33 AM

My Yorkie's name is also Chewi. I took him to the vet yesterday for a check up because he has kennel cough and she said she wanted to do a culture/tracheal wash because he has been on antibiotics for a month. She strongly recommended it.... I was skeptical and asked her if he would be ok after and she said he would be fine after the anesthesia wears off.....Its been 20 hrs since his tracheal wash and he is so so so sick!!!!!!!! He wont eat anything and keeps throwing up. I dont know what to do.. I wish i had researched it more before i let her do this to him....i've been praying that he gets better...i hope he does

Annabelles_mom · 06-24-2006, 05:43 AM

Oh goodness, I would have never thought a procedure would worsen things. At first, I thought that it was just a coincidence that the pup developed pneumonia after the tracheal wash, but after reading the last post about Chewi becoming sicker as well after that procedure, I am starting to wonder.

Definitely, I suggest to everyone to use VET school clinics (if available). Extraordinary cases (outside your run of the mill vet visits) are reviewed by other doctors, because the vet student treating the dog is being tested, so there is limited chance of doctor error. Plus, vet students are studying everyday, so they would be more aware of things then a seasoned doctor, IMO.

Anyway, I think you should contact the breeder about the kennel cough. After 5 days of having the puppy, she is sick! I would be upset, that isn't right, and she should be liable for giving you a sick puppy!

About viral infections, many people don't understand the difference between viral and bacterial. Viruses reproduce differently than bacteria. The do not replicate exact copies of themselves, but they mutate, making different versions of themselves over and over, so any meds would have to adapt to these changes, that is why they are so hard to treat, and anti-viral meds should be giving, not Amoxicillin!!! I don't understand why the doc gave that.

Ok, I will shutup now. I hope all sick babies turn out ok. Me and Annabelle are thinking and praying for you.

Tjay_89 · 06-24-2006, 05:55 AM

Hi everyone,
I just took Chewi back to the vet because he looked extremely sick. As soon as he got there he started spasming whenhe got on the scale.....the vet took him and put him on oxygen and came back and told me he has low blood sugar because he hasnt been eating...Can u imagine what would have happened to him if i didnt make him eat some food from a syringe........She did some tests and guess what she came back to tell me.....Chewi has pneumonia....What a surprise...he was perfectly healthy before so i dont know how all of a sudden this has happened after the tracheal wash....she is going to keep him hospitalized. That is going to cost me alot of money, and this isnt even my fault!!! i love him very much though so all i want now is for him to get better as quickly as possible.......pray for CHewi please everyone

GeorgiesMomma · 06-24-2006, 06:00 AM

I am soo sorry to hear about both of your babies. I will be praying for them and you as well. As far as TJay89 I would let the vet know what you think. You weren't the one that ask for the procedure and you were not explained the risks so why should you be liable for the hospitalization. Good luck and I hope both of your babies feel better soon.

Key2Yorkies · 06-24-2006, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blykmyk44

We recently purchased a Yorkie puppy (three weeks ago) and after about 5 days with us he came down with a mild cough and we took him to the vet who said he had a very mild case of Kennel Cough and perscribed some Amoxicilin. After a week of the medicine we had realized that the cough was not really going away (however he was showing no other signs of illness at all) and so we took him to the vet again and the vet suggested that we give him a Tracheal Wash to see if he had some sort of virus. We agreed and took him to vet for the procedure.

Immediately after the procedure the he became seriously ill and could not breath on his own. He was then transferred to emergency care where they diagnossed that he had Pneumonia. That was 4 days ago and now the emergency care staff has said we need to make "the decision" on what we are going to do since he is showing little improvement.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so could it be something other than Pneumonia? I asked the people at the Emergency Center if the Tracheal Wash could have something to do with this completely immediate change in our dog but they don't really seem to think that is much of an option. To me (obviously not an expert) if a dog suddenly changes to the worse after a surgery the surgery would have had something to do with it.

Any help would be great (as soon as possible) since we are really at the breaking point and don't want to lose our little pupp =(

I never heard of a Tracial Wash ! and I doubt if they would ever admit fault. Do our Doctors? Vets are probably the same way. If it where my puppy
I would take him home so fast your head would spin! Then I would look up every natural remedy on the internet I could find.
I would sit out in the Sun with him for a bit and hold him 27/7 . I would make sure I have a syringe for water and maybe some puppy formula if he could handle it. I would let my baby die in my arms if that's what is supposed to happen, rather by the injection of a needle. Who knows maybe you can heal him with a lot of LOVE, PRAYER & ATTENTION ! I don't trust the whole TRACIAL WASH THING! iT SOUNDS AS IF THEY WHERE TRYING TO MAKE AN EXTRA bUCK OFF OF YOU!
But that's me I am suspicious by nature. I think it comes from growing up in Chicago! Take Him Home !
Key2 Yorkies, ~ Jan

Annabelles_mom · 06-24-2006, 06:52 AM

I wonder if there is a vet association that we could bring this up to, like telling them the trachial wash leads to pneumonia in 2 cases, who knows how many other cases there are. Maybe they can send out information to member vets that this is happening and they can look into it. Just a thought!

livingdustmops · 06-24-2006, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Key2Yorkies

I never heard of a Tracial Wash ! and I doubt if they would ever admit fault. Do our Doctors? Vets are probably the same way. If it where my puppy
I would take him home so fast your head would spin! Then I would look up every natural remedy on the internet I could find.
I would sit out in the Sun with him for a bit and hold him 27/7 . I would make sure I have a syringe for water and maybe some puppy formula if he could handle it. I would let my baby die in my arms if that's what is supposed to happen, rather by the injection of a needle. Who knows maybe you can heal him with a lot of LOVE, PRAYER & ATTENTION ! I don't trust the whole TRACIAL WASH THING! iT SOUNDS AS IF THEY WHERE TRYING TO MAKE AN EXTRA bUCK OFF OF YOU!
But that's me I am suspicious by nature. I think it comes from growing up in Chicago! Take Him Home !
Key2 Yorkies, ~ Jan

Whoa - Kennel Cough can very easily turn into PNEUMONIA and a Tracheal Wash is one method that vets use..it is not a rip off. The vets are trying to save the dogs life. Here is a website that explains what the vets are trying to do.

http://www.vetinfo4dogs.com/dtrachea.html

06-17-2005, 04:26 PM	#16
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06-17-2005, 04:27 PM	#17
eensor YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Effingham, Illinois Posts: 2,535	I'd be calling other vets too! I'm also a HUGE believer in vet school clinics if there is one at a university near you. Where are you located? __________________ I'd rather be in Mexico!

06-17-2005, 09:59 PM	#19
snoody2004 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: YT! Posts: 548	Oh..Wow Pebbles had kennel cough for 2 months but never had Pneumonia/or tracheal wash~Thanks god~ Well we took her to the vet and the vet gave her medicine and it never worked until he gave her a shot~Really STRONG~ And by days she was getting better But it was horribble...I am very glad that your dog has benn treated good I see has your doig been near another dog,When you bought it from the breeder? It might be that Thats what happend to Pebbles when we bought her from the breeder the breeder had her with other dogs and thats a real good way to get bad kenel cough! Hope your dogs feeling better Where all in your prayers Id call another vet to see what that vets said __________________ Last edited by snoody2004; 06-17-2005 at 10:02 PM.

06-19-2005, 08:48 PM	#22
b_veselka Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 307	If Kennel Cough is a virus then why would the doc prscribe antibiotics? they help w/bacterial infections not viruses. I was always under the impression that not much could be done about Kennel cough other than cleaning the space that the dog is in and letting it run its course. My weimaraner had kennel cough and it did get to the point that the vet gave him the nasal meds ( I think it was the vaccine for kennel cough- still did not see how that would work when the dog already had it ) the vet said that it might not do anything but that it was worth the try. Just be careful if you have others (dogs) in the house because kennel cough is very contaigous and if this is truely what your baby started out with you need to disinfect his things and all areas where he has been. When my weimaraner had it a few years ago I had a litter of yorkies and a litter of weimies. Both mom and dad weimaraner and pups all got it. I do not know where he picked it up (he was quite a roamer before he was neutured), but it spread fast. My weimaraners were never in the "kennel" situation. They did stay primarily in the opened garage, but never urinated or deficated in there. The vet told me that simply allowing my Yorkie mom to run through the garage to the outdoors to go to the bathroom could have been enough to infect her!!! Luckily she or the baby yorkies never got it, but 2 of the weimaraner pups passed away! We had to bleach our entire garage and bathe the dogs in antibacterial soap. It really was a nightmare! Mom and dad weimaraner recovered fine and one baby lived and was healthy after the virus had run it's course. The vet told us that w/pups that the nasal drainage and throat inflammation from coughing is too much to handle sometimes and they can suffocate. I am sorry to hear about your pup but this is something for all dog owners to be aware of- especially if your dog might come in contact w/other dogs you do not know! __________________ Beth Veselka

06-24-2006, 05:43 AM	#25
Annabelles_mom No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 314	Oh goodness, I would have never thought a procedure would worsen things. At first, I thought that it was just a coincidence that the pup developed pneumonia after the tracheal wash, but after reading the last post about Chewi becoming sicker as well after that procedure, I am starting to wonder. Definitely, I suggest to everyone to use VET school clinics (if available). Extraordinary cases (outside your run of the mill vet visits) are reviewed by other doctors, because the vet student treating the dog is being tested, so there is limited chance of doctor error. Plus, vet students are studying everyday, so they would be more aware of things then a seasoned doctor, IMO. Anyway, I think you should contact the breeder about the kennel cough. After 5 days of having the puppy, she is sick! I would be upset, that isn't right, and she should be liable for giving you a sick puppy! About viral infections, many people don't understand the difference between viral and bacterial. Viruses reproduce differently than bacteria. The do not replicate exact copies of themselves, but they mutate, making different versions of themselves over and over, so any meds would have to adapt to these changes, that is why they are so hard to treat, and anti-viral meds should be giving, not Amoxicillin!!! I don't understand why the doc gave that. Ok, I will shutup now. I hope all sick babies turn out ok. Me and Annabelle are thinking and praying for you. Last edited by Annabelles_mom; 06-24-2006 at 05:45 AM.

06-17-2005, 09:10 PM	#18
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Yes, please get some other educated opinions even if over the phone, like when is a tracheal wash normally prescribed, etc. If you can't move the puppy, have the vet come there to see him. I t might cost more but will be worth it. I want someone to save this baby. Did you research tracheal wash on the internet. My dog had kennel cough for 6 weeks and I never heard of that procedure. I will keep him in my thoughts and hope he pulls through without liver damage.

06-18-2005, 04:35 PM	#20
blykmyk44 YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 388	Yes Chewy was around other puppies when he purchased him, as of now only one other came down with a cough. Im interested that I keep hearing about puppies that had Kennel Cough for months and yet never had this procedure. Also, this shot was never even offered...

06-18-2005, 06:24 PM	#21
Joy BANNED! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 2,094	I read this thread yesterday and though I have no good advice for you I wanted you to know I was thinking of you and your little pup.. Hop everything is going well.. Have you any more information? Is he doing better? Did you find another vet? Keeping you in my thoughts.. Joy

06-21-2005, 10:57 AM	#23
Rory's Ma Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 24	It has been a few days, how is the little puppy doing? RM

06-24-2006, 05:55 AM	#26
Tjay_89 YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines Posts: 4	Update on CHEWI Hi everyone, I just took Chewi back to the vet because he looked extremely sick. As soon as he got there he started spasming whenhe got on the scale.....the vet took him and put him on oxygen and came back and told me he has low blood sugar because he hasnt been eating...Can u imagine what would have happened to him if i didnt make him eat some food from a syringe........She did some tests and guess what she came back to tell me.....Chewi has pneumonia....What a surprise...he was perfectly healthy before so i dont know how all of a sudden this has happened after the tracheal wash....she is going to keep him hospitalized. That is going to cost me alot of money, and this isnt even my fault!!! i love him very much though so all i want now is for him to get better as quickly as possible.......pray for CHewi please everyone

06-24-2006, 06:00 AM	#27
GeorgiesMomma I love TBCG! Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MD Posts: 7,227	I am soo sorry to hear about both of your babies. I will be praying for them and you as well. As far as TJay89 I would let the vet know what you think. You weren't the one that ask for the procedure and you were not explained the risks so why should you be liable for the hospitalization. Good luck and I hope both of your babies feel better soon. __________________ Morgan Mommy toGeorgie boy & Isaiah RIP sweet Coco 10/12/99-8/1/12 Read About Georgie's Experience with Atlantoaxial Instability (AAI) Here!

06-24-2006, 06:52 AM	#29
Annabelles_mom No Longer a Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 314	I wonder if there is a vet association that we could bring this up to, like telling them the trachial wash leads to pneumonia in 2 cases, who knows how many other cases there are. Maybe they can send out information to member vets that this is happening and they can look into it. Just a thought!