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Old 04-18-2007, 06:36 AM   #1
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They did indeed pass the law today for spaying/neutering your animals in California?? I just seen it on the news, that if your animals are not spayed/neautered you will have to pay $150 for licensing. That is going to hurt small time breeders..
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Can breeders get a breeding license or??

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It's just a matter on time before all the state do. We seem to follow California alot down here.
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Can breeders get a breeding license or??

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I'm not sure, but I know the lady on the news said if you want to be a breeder you will have to pay $150 to license their pets and if you are low income you can possible fill out some form to help with the fee. They are going to talk about it somemore in a few minutes on the news again I'm waiting for it to come on.
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It's just a matter on time before all the state do. We seem to follow California alot down here.
Yes, thats what they said, that the Senators are pushing for the law to go State wide now.
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I dont realy no whats going on. But if im getting it right I think that would be a good idea, as I think it might stop those breeders that are definitly only interested in the money when it comes to breeding. As i,ve seen on some of the american websites yorkies sell for what I think is a ridiculous about of money. And $150 will hardly break the bank.
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I don't think it's actually passed yet. Google AB 1643 to read about it. I did. It basically said that breeders just have to prove that their intact dog is listed on a registry (like AKC) to get an intact permit. Owners can also get an intact permit if their pet is not strong or healthy enough to be spayed or neutered by submitting a letter from their vet. The intact permit would have to be paid for annually.
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Heres the link to the bill so far, they seem to be crossing some stuff out still though. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/07-08/...ed_asm_v97.pdf
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this is the first ive heard of it
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If I'm reading this bill correctly this isn't going to hurt any good breeders at all. It seems like it will only weed out the non-Akc or non-purebred breeders. IMO this does actually seem to be a reasonable and helpful bill, and it might actually be a good idea for it to go state-wide. What are anyone else's thoughts on this?????
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I think a big majority of the litters that end up in shelters are coming from unlicensed dogs to begin with. Those irresponsible owners are not going to care if the license is $10 or $150, they just won't get one. Some others who may have been willing to pay the $10, just won't buy them for $150. So, the unlicensed dogs will increase.

So, the responsible breeders will pay the extra money and it will go towards feeding, housing, and euthenizing the puppies from owners who do not pay or care. The costs will be added to the puppies the public buys and in the end it is all the same. The responsible folks in the middle will pay the tab one way or another -- through licensing fees or taxes. The irresponsible, careless owners slide by at others' expense as always.

Sorry to sound so pessimistic -- I know the law is meant to save unwanted litters from being created. But I think any laws that penalize before the crime are wrong. Instead of basically fining people for just having unspayed/unneutered dogs, go after those owners who continue to let mongrel dogs breed with no intention of providing for their offspring. JMHO.
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I think it's a fabulous idea. I am one who thinks that every cat and dog and rabbit in the country should be spayed/neutered. Reputable breeders are the only exception. Pet over-population is a huge problem still and it's so sad to see so many animals in need of homes. I think it might help cut down on backyard breeders who don't know what they are doing. I've seen so much sadness and so many horror stories working at a humane society, and I live in the Northeast - in other parts of the country the over-population problems are out of control. Obviously, the best way to solve that problem is to educate and provide low-cost services to the public, but I think putting laws in place might help as well. Spay and neuter!!!
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I think a big majority of the litters that end up in shelters are coming from unlicensed dogs to begin with. Those irresponsible owners are not going to care if the license is $10 or $150, they just won't get one. Some others who may have been willing to pay the $10, just won't buy them for $150. So, the unlicensed dogs will increase.

So, the responsible breeders will pay the extra money and it will go towards feeding, housing, and euthenizing the puppies from owners who do not pay or care. The costs will be added to the puppies the public buys and in the end it is all the same. The responsible folks in the middle will pay the tab one way or another -- through licensing fees or taxes. The irresponsible, careless owners slide by at others' expense as always.

Sorry to sound so pessimistic -- I know the law is meant to save unwanted litters from being created. But I think any laws that penalize before the crime are wrong. Instead of basically fining people for just having unspayed/unneutered dogs, go after those owners who continue to let mongrel dogs breed with no intention of providing for their offspring. JMHO.

I agree with you!
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I hope it passes. It's great.

If a breeder can't afford the $150, I'd be a bit concerned.
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Well.. what if it does pass and low income families can't afford the spay/neuter ..then what? they abandon the dog?
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