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09-26-2006, 08:55 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Conyers
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| Science Diet? I've used Science Diet in the past for a larger breed dog, had a great experience and loved it. I was considering going back to it for my new puppy but then started finding some negative reviews about byproducts used in Science Diet, so has anyone ever used SD and if so what are your reviews/opinions?? |
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09-26-2006, 10:42 AM | #2 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PA
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| I just started using Science Diet for my old Golden Ret and my older Jack Russel. My Yorkie is on the special prescription L/D diet because he has had liver shunts. I personally like the 7+ Senior that my other 2 dogs are on. I checked every label at Petsmart looking for a very low protein diet for my Golden Ret. She is 14 1/2 years old and very thin. If I feed her a food with more than 16% protein she has major problems holding her urine. She will be laying down and it just runs out of her. I have found that if I keep the protein down that she is much better. I mix the dry with the canned for her and she has alot more energy plus seems to be gaining a little weight, plus doesn't seem to have the bladder problem as much. It's the only food I found that doesn't have over 20% protein. Personally, I have had good luck with it. |
09-26-2006, 11:03 AM | #3 |
YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: El Paso, Texas
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| Here are the ingredients for the Science Diet puppy small bites: Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Soybean Meal, Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dicalcium Phosphate, Brewers Rice, Fish Oil, Flaxseed, Soybean Oil, Iodized Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract. Corn is the first ingredient. Corn is a cheap source of protein that is not easily digested. Look for a product that has meat as the first ingredient and no corn. Second ingredient Chicken by product. This means the intestines, feet, head, feathers, beaks, etc. of a chicken. Also undigestable. A little further down Pork fat - I've always been told to avoid pork with yorkies because it can cause an attack of pancreatitis. In my opinion, this is not a good food. I feed Nutro Ultra, but there are many good foods out there like Chicken Soup, Innova, Blue Buffalo, Wellness, Royal Canin, Merricks, etc. |
09-26-2006, 11:07 AM | #4 |
Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas
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| OK. I hope this helps you to decide what to feed your puppy. I just picked any Science Diet puppy food and this one had these ingredients: Ingredients Ground Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Soybean Meal, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Chicken Liver Flavor, Dicalcium Phosphate, Brewers Rice, Fish Oil, Flaxseed, Soybean Oil, Iodized Salt, Choline Chloride, Potassium Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract. http://www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/prod...=1159296290089 Now, from this site I find this information regarding ingredients: The first 4 ingredients are the major components of any food and one of the first two ingredients should be a clean meat source, meaning no by-products, fractionated grains, soy or corn. Federal guidelines require that manufacturers list their ingredients by order of weight. What many people don't realize is that many list their protein source in it's "wet" raw state when as much as 75% of the weight is water, pushing that ingredient to the top of the list. When the meat is processed in the "meal" state (removing the water) it becomes about 5 times lighter and should probably be listed as the 4th or 5th ingredient. Don't be fooled by deceptive marketing campaigns!!! Whole meat meals (chicken meal, lamb meal, fish meal) are just the meats with the water removed for ease of blending, and an excellent source of protein. Many "Senior" or weight management formulas will have a grain first on the label. This is fine too, as long as it's a whole grain such as whole millet, rice or barley to name a few. Corn, soy, wheat middlings, rice hulls, peanut hulls, corn syrup and the like are RED FLAGS that this is not the most nutrition food you could be feeding your dog. Don't just take our word for it. Read more info here. The label won't lie, but it can be deceiving. If the above mentioned chemicals or ingredients are in your dog's food, please re-think feeding it. If you just want the cheapest food out there, be prepared to deal with ill health. If you have a question about a specific ingredient on your dog's food label, email us. We'll refer you to an unbiased source for an answer. We don't just want to sell you something but want to help you learn as much as you can about pet foods. http://www.holistic-hounds.com/AboutUs.html
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09-26-2006, 06:03 PM | #5 |
Its all about the yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Jersey
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| I have read that Science diet uses ethoxiquin to preserve their foods. Its beleived that this preservative can cause cancer
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