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Old 08-20-2016, 03:54 AM   #1
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Default Orijen Dog food

I did a lot of research and looked at ingredients and figured this is one of the best dog foods out there. However, everyone always says that a good dog food needs to have the AAFCO stamp or approval statement on it. Well, Orijen doesn't. We used Royal Canin Yorkshire Dog food before I realized how I was over paying for mediocre dog food at best, and I don't believe it had an AAFCO approval on it either. What am I missing? Does the dog food you use have an AAFCO approval statement or Stamp on it? Can you post a picture of it so that I know what to look for?

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There isn't a seal. Usually there is a statement on the bag or can for most foods.
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Orijen has a lot of protein in it I would lean more toward Acana if you like that type of dog food. I personally love Royal Canin and its recommended by vet nutritionists who know more about dogs food needs then we do.
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We feed both Orijen and Royal Canin.
The amount of protein is not usually a issue is the dog does not have kidney or liver problems. The quality of the protein is what is important.

I watch more for high carbohydares rather than high protein.

I like the quality of Orijen protein but the kibble size is our only issue. I have to use a blender to break down the kibble size (she is very small). She likes the taste of Royal Canin Yorkie so I use that if I don't have time to blender the Orijen.

Again, if your dog has health issues special food considerations are needed, but if they are healthy the amount of protein is not a issue usually. That being said, all dogs have their own digestive process and that can be different from food to food.

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Old 08-20-2016, 03:44 PM   #5
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There is no statement on either Royal Canin or Orijen or Acana since it's the same company that makes Orijen. I haven't looked at other dog foods but I will next time I am at the store.

High in protein is a good thing. Dogs are meat eaters, meat is protein, their diet should be mostly protein. Just like you wouldn't feed a tiger a lot of veggies, nor would you feed dear or a cow food high in protein, food has to be species specific for dogs that's meat/protein.

As for Royal Canin being recommended by nutrition vets, or vets in general, they recommend it because they get kick backs, i.e. money from Royal Canin for selling their food. You're paying around $7/lb for food filled with chemicals and fillers, you can buy fresh organic raw food in the refrigerator section of your pet store for cheaper than that. If you look at the ingredients you'll see a lot of questionable ingredients at best. Sure those things might bring up nutritional value of the food so it looks great on the label, but do you really want your dog eating feathers or chemicals? Can they even absorb those weird ingredients to get the nutritional value from them? It's like those sifi movies where people in the future don't eat real food but eat pastes or weird looking stuff that just provides vitamins and minerals but is made in a chemical factory.

And once again back to my point, these food are highly recommended by Vets or Dog Nutrition experts, yet they are not recommended by the AAFCO, which is the organization that tests the food for nutritional content and makes sure it's accurate to what it says on the label and actually provides nutrition to our dogs.

My follow up question, what do you feed your dog and does it have a statement from AAFCO saying that the food is nutritional for your dog?

Can someone post a picture of that statement from their dog food?
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We feed both Orijen and Royal Canin.
The amount of protein is not usually a issue is the dog does not have kidney or liver problems. The quality of the protein is what is important.

I watch more for high carbohydares rather than high protein.

I like the quality of Orijen protein but the kibble size is our only issue. I have to use a blender to break down the kibble size (she is very small). She likes the taste of Royal Canin Yorkie so I use that if I don't have time to blender the Orijen.

Again, if your dog has health issues special food considerations are needed, but if they are healthy the amount of protein is not a issue usually. That being said, all dogs have their own digestive process and that can be different from food to food.

Good luck!

This isn't an issue of protein amount or what the dog needs if they have health problems. The issue is that both of these dog foods are supposedly high quality dog foods, however, the #1 thing everyone says to look for as a sign of quality dog food is a statement from AAFCO on your dogs food saying it's been tested and meets nutritional breed specific standards. Which these dog foods don't have. Makes me wonder.
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Orijen site says it meets aafco standards. Im with you, after extensive research orijen and acana come out on top.
Royal canin, science diet .. Etc. may work for some dogs . But not for all. I know of many success stories on orijen and acana. I was going to start raw, but decided on acana. Two of my dogs skin issues cleared up so quickly.
My vet said as long as it meets the aafco standards thats what is most important. Just because it is has the aafco stamp of approval does not make it an ideal feed however. There are many many aafco approved feeds that i wouldnt dream of feeding my dogs.
Our cat got switched to orijen and stopped itching with in 2-3 days . Both orijen and acana have formulas without chicken/ bird in them.
And they are Very high quality feeds. And working amazing for all 4 my dogs.
Vets recommend what they carry. I worked at a vet clinic for many many years. I know how it works. What they recommend does not mean its what is best. Its just what they know.
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Orijen site says it meets aafco standards. Im with you, after extensive research orijen and acana come out on top.
Royal canin, science diet .. Etc. may work for some dogs . But not for all. I know of many success stories on orijen and acana. I was going to start raw, but decided on acana. Two of my dogs skin issues cleared up so quickly.
My vet said as long as it meets the aafco standards thats what is most important. Just because it is has the aafco stamp of approval does not make it an ideal feed however. There are many many aafco approved feeds that i wouldnt dream of feeding my dogs.
Our cat got switched to orijen and stopped itching with in 2-3 days . Both orijen and acana have formulas without chicken/ bird in them.
And they are Very high quality feeds. And working amazing for all 4 my dogs.
Vets recommend what they carry. I worked at a vet clinic for many many years. I know how it works. What they recommend does not mean its what is best. Its just what they know.

Thank you! I didn't check their website, I appreciate your post. This was my point exactly, that lots of worse quality dog foods have AAFCO approval printed on their labels but Orijen didn't. I just found that weird, but I guess they're saving money on ink by just stating it on their website and not on their bags of food.

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I believe AAFCO is just a standard, I don't believe it has to be on the bag?

I think you can look at the AAFCO guidelines and see if it meets the standard?

I love Acana for my dogs!

Orijen - I have heard nothing but great things!
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I just looked at my bags and it actually does say under the ingredients list:
" orijen regional red is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the aafco cat food nutrient profile for all life stages"
And the acana heritage for dogs bag says the same thing
I think they are fantastic foods.
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Lol- I figured it had to meet the standards- thank you for checking that!!
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Lol- I figured it had to meet the standards- thank you for checking that!!
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I just looked at my bags and it actually does say under the ingredients list:
" orijen regional red is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the aafco cat food nutrient profile for all life stages"
And the acana heritage for dogs bag says the same thing
I think they are fantastic foods.
Yeah just triple checked my bag of Orijen Puppy and it has it too. I guess I need better glasses...
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Yeah just triple checked my bag of Orijen Puppy and it has it too. I guess I need better glasses...
Lol oh well. Im glad this thread made me go check. I had seen it on their website but never looked on the bag
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There is no statement on either Royal Canin or Orijen or Acana since it's the same company that makes Orijen. I haven't looked at other dog foods but I will next time I am at the store.

High in protein is a good thing. Dogs are meat eaters, meat is protein, their diet should be mostly protein. Just like you wouldn't feed a tiger a lot of veggies, nor would you feed dear or a cow food high in protein, food has to be species specific for dogs that's meat/protein.

As for Royal Canin being recommended by nutrition vets, or vets in general, they recommend it because they get kick backs, i.e. money from Royal Canin for selling their food. You're paying around $7/lb for food filled with chemicals and fillers, you can buy fresh organic raw food in the refrigerator section of your pet store for cheaper than that. If you look at the ingredients you'll see a lot of questionable ingredients at best. Sure those things might bring up nutritional value of the food so it looks great on the label, but do you really want your dog eating feathers or chemicals? Can they even absorb those weird ingredients to get the nutritional value from them? It's like those sifi movies where people in the future don't eat real food but eat pastes or weird looking stuff that just provides vitamins and minerals but is made in a chemical factory.

And once again back to my point, these food are highly recommended by Vets or Dog Nutrition experts, yet they are not recommended by the AAFCO, which is the organization that tests the food for nutritional content and makes sure it's accurate to what it says on the label and actually provides nutrition to our dogs.

My follow up question, what do you feed your dog and does it have a statement from AAFCO saying that the food is nutritional for your dog?

Can someone post a picture of that statement from their dog food?
Vets do not get a kick back that is a huge myth! What we may think is good for our dogs is not necessarily the best that's why I trust vet nutritionist.
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