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04-23-2014, 01:14 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker | Hawthorn for hearts Hello! My 1 and 1/2 year old girl Sony does not have congestive heart failure, but it was found that her heart is a bit oddly shaped, has long ventricles, and does not crunch down as hard as it probably should. I got the opinion of two vets and they said at this time they would not put her on heart medicine. she is very hyper and has no signs of any heart issues. However, i suggested to my vet having her on a multivitamin (solid gold mineral supplement) which i have her on a few times a week and in addition to that i asked my vet if she thought i should put her on hawthorn which she also thought would be a good idea. THe bottle from animals' apawthecary says that dogs should get 1-2 mls twice daily. Is that too much? It doesn't give according to size. I was just wondering with the multivitamin a few times a week as well as animal essentials probiotics and plant enzymes i have her on every day (she has nervous bowel issues) what would be the proper dosage? I dont want to overdo. Thanks so much! |
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04-23-2014, 07:34 PM | #2 |
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| What kind of food do you feed her? Commercial dog food is carefully balanced with the appropriate vitamins and nutrients. Additional vitamins are not necessary and can have a negative effect. Same with humans. Many vitamins have to be balanced by others (a certain ratio) or they can be harmful. If animals' apothecary/Hawthorns for hearts doesn't indicate anything relative to the size of the dog, that is big red flag. I wouldn't use it. Was one of the vets that you took your girl to a cardiologist? I would follow the recommendations of the cardiologist and not risk any of the over the counter helpers.
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04-24-2014, 10:33 AM | #4 |
Yorkie Yakker | Hello thanks for your response! i feed them Acana pacifica. I understand that vitamins have to be properly balanced, but i do think that they are necessary in some instances. I am a believer in hollistic forms of treatment in addition to western medicine. I have had rocky mountain spotted fever and my grandmother has fibromyalgia, and some friends of mine have lyme disease and they all say that hollistic things have helped them exceedingly and i have experienced them myself. If natural things help vitamins, herbs, etc i think it is worth a try before resorting to pills especially since my vet didn't believe them necessary at this time. My vet reccomended the multivitamin and the hawthorn. All that the animals apawthecary bottle has in it is: hawthorn berries, gingko biloba, garlic, vegetable glycerin and distilled water. Nothing to raise a red flag. I have done a lot of research and many pet owners swear by it. As far as the probiotics go they have worked brilliantly in preventing tummy upsets so that is why i feed them those on a daily basis. The second opinion was not specifically a cardiologist but he is someone with much experience and who has a good reputation with hearts. i myself take supplements that very much help me and would never give my babies something i wouldn't consume myself in human form. |
04-24-2014, 04:11 PM | #6 | |
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Glad to hear the probiotics are working well. I have read many success stories here relative to them. Garlic for dogs is controversial. Many sources say that it is fine in small quantities. A leading vet nutritionist says no, none at all. Just something to think about. When I said red flag relative to Hawthornes, I meant that the instructions do not include anything relative to the dog's weight. That is what makes me suspicious of the manufacturer. Surely a 5 pound dog should not have as much as a 150 pound dog. You obviously love your pup and want to do everything to keep her healthy. I'm just sharing my view -- which is that more of something is not always better. Also, keep in mind that dogs are very different than humans. The human body can tolerate a lot more when it comes to imperfect diets and supplements.
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