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Old 03-21-2014, 06:03 AM   #1
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This was posted from Tufts Vet school and I thought it was interesting about anesthesia
Pets and Anesthesia | Tufts Now
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Great article...reassuring to me, as I always excessively worry about anesthesia...and the extent of my worry isn't corroborated by the risk (meaning, I worry FAR more than I should).
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This should be a sticky..
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Thank you for sharing this article. I think the anesthesia scares me less than having my dogs out of my sight and control. I have general trust issues.
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This should be a sticky..
I agree....we see so many people with anesthesia fears that prevent them from properly caring for their pups. This would be a great article to share with them.
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Put this into the Health Library here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/die...esia-pets.html

Thanks again for posting this !
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Put this into the Health Library here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/die...esia-pets.html

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This is my biggest worry of all when it comes to my Yorkies. My baby boy Timothy should have had his teeth cleaned a few times while younger, but I feared he wouldn't make it through while being under. He also needed luxating patella surgery on both hind legs, of which I didn't do because of the same fear.

Now I read this article and AM NOT FORGETTING the fact it's at Tufts and NOT my local vets in the area. The same protections and Veterinarians that are at Tufts are one thing, but having similar near here is something else. I'm not going to be skewed by facts, when the facts don't apply similar around here.

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This is my biggest worry of all when it comes to my Yorkies. My baby boy Timothy should have had his teeth cleaned a few times while younger, but I feared he wouldn't make it through while being under. He also needed luxating patella surgery on both hind legs, of which I didn't do because of the same fear.

Now I read this article and AM NOT FORGETTING the fact it's at Tufts and NOT my local vets in the area. The same protections and Veterinarians that are at Tufts are one thing, but having similar near here is something else. I'm not going to be skewed by facts, when the facts don't apply similar around here.

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You can always go to board certified vets if you don't want to do anesthesia at your regular vet. I would only go to boarded surgeons anyway for orthopedic surgery. Tufts is not the only place where anesthesia is safe.

As for dentals, there is more of a risk of your pup dying from cardiac or renal disease due to the effects of periodonal disease than from anesthesia.

Know your vet and know the anesthetic protocols. There is such a small risk of anesthetic death with up to date protocols.
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This is an excellent article and now sticky! Lots of very good information that should bring the anxiety level way down. Since I'm in the OR regularly surgery does not scare me at all, not for me, my family or my pets.
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This is my biggest worry of all when it comes to my Yorkies. My baby boy Timothy should have had his teeth cleaned a few times while younger, but I feared he wouldn't make it through while being under. He also needed luxating patella surgery on both hind legs, of which I didn't do because of the same fear.

Now I read this article and AM NOT FORGETTING the fact it's at Tufts and NOT my local vets in the area. The same protections and Veterinarians that are at Tufts are one thing, but having similar near here is something else. I'm not going to be skewed by facts, when the facts don't apply similar around here.

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I think you missed the point of the article and why I shared it. Most decent and up to date veterinarians (meaning except for those resorting to cheap and archaic anesthesia methods) are doing the same protocol. Vets know how to establish protocols for high risk dogs too. I had a concern about one of my dogs so I had a vet at Angell animal medical center establish her protocol. It's the same exact protocol that my general vet uses on every single dog. Some vets might induce with ketamine or Valium and these drugs are contraindicated in my dog who has liver problems. They know this and if they don't, I've told them and her specialists have told them.

The only facts being skewed are by you as you seem to think only Tufts does it right. I'm sorry your dog has foregone needed procedures because of your fear. I hope others don't follow suit and instead educate themselves and ask questions. Reading information from places like Tufts makes us all more knowledgeable so please don't derail the information to justify your own inaction with your dog.
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This is my biggest worry of all when it comes to my Yorkies. My baby boy Timothy should have had his teeth cleaned a few times while younger, but I feared he wouldn't make it through while being under. He also needed luxating patella surgery on both hind legs, of which I didn't do because of the same fear.

Now I read this article and AM NOT FORGETTING the fact it's at Tufts and NOT my local vets in the area. The same protections and Veterinarians that are at Tufts are one thing, but having similar near here is something else. I'm not going to be skewed by facts, when the facts don't apply similar around here.

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What you are saying is totally inaccurate in with the basic fact that Protocol is protocol and that is why vets go to school, they must take continuing education and are overseen by the State for compliance. You do not need to take your pets to Tufts for teeth cleaning or LP surgery. It's unrealistic and uninformed to try to convince me that your vet wasn't able to do a basic teeth cleaning and you feared for Timothy's safety/life. Actually, the statement that you feared a very basic procedure by your regular vets is an insult your your vets years of schooling in veterinary sciences. Furthermore, I also don't have an issue of Vet Techs administering anesthesia under the supervision of a vet. It's no different than have (human) surgery with a nurse anesthetist monitoring a PT. They are trained and work under the supervision of an anesthesiologist who can step in if ever needed.
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Thanks for the article, will be sure to share. Reminds me of when I used to volunteer at my local vet when I was in school, a dog who was in recovery just emptied his bowels and bladder right there in the bed, which was thankfully covered in a peepad
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This is my biggest worry of all when it comes to my Yorkies. My baby boy Timothy should have had his teeth cleaned a few times while younger, but I feared he wouldn't make it through while being under. He also needed luxating patella surgery on both hind legs, of which I didn't do because of the same fear.

Now I read this article and AM NOT FORGETTING the fact it's at Tufts and NOT my local vets in the area. The same protections and Veterinarians that are at Tufts are one thing, but having similar near here is something else. I'm not going to be skewed by facts, when the facts don't apply similar around here.

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I agree the article was written explaining what the vets at Tuft's do or can do, but you can take this info and question your vet to find out exactly what their anesthesia protocol is, and if they tweak it for special patients, and make a more informed decision regarding getting treatment for your dog.

Also know your vet. Does he have experience with smaller animals? My vet specializes in Exotics, and routinely works on hamsters, rats, guinea pigs, rabbits, chinchillas and such, along with reptiles and birds. I feel more confident with him doing a surgery on my small dogs, as all these animals require different protocols for anesthesia, and I feel he's better informed and has the experience to make the best choices for my dogs. And he and his wife are both vets, and routinely do surgeries together, especially on higher risk patients.

Ask about the specific drugs he uses. If he minds you asking, then that would be a bit of a red flag to me. Pre-op blood work should always be done in advance. And everything else mentioned in the article.
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I agree the article was written explaining what the vets at Tuft's do or can do, but you can take this info and question your vet to find out exactly what their anesthesia protocol is, and if they tweak it for special patients, and make a more informed decision regarding getting treatment for your dog.

Also know your vet. Does he have experience with smaller animals? ...I feel more confident with him doing a surgery on my small dogs, as all these animals require different protocols for anesthesia, and I feel he's better informed and has the experience to make the best choices for my dogs.

Ask about the specific drugs he uses. If he minds you asking, then that would be a bit of a red flag to me. Pre-op blood work should always be done in advance. And everything else mentioned in the article.
Thanks for the reply kjc,

I had written a reply to you above as an edit shortly after I finished, then none of it was saved as there's a wrong protocol of no more edits after 5 minutes, so my reply to you never got put there. Hence I now have to do another post and am now not in a mood to write as much...

Anyway, I would bet everything I own that I would be in the upper 5% bracket of owners who asked many questions to their vets prior to making a big decision, like surgery. I asked every conceivable question I could think of. I went in there with a w-r-i-t-t-e-n list of questions. I referenced magazines, books, forums, videos, a pay-for-advice online vet service, other vets and other yorkie owners. I went in well prepared. I did spend approx. $200 in blood work and tests as well.

Thank you for your advice as I feel the more you know about the vet and their experience, etc, the better it is to know if that's the vet you want working on your yorkie or if it's better to go elsewhere.

May your babies always be well, and live a long healthy and happy life!

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