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Teegy · 01-23-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Britster

Where in the world did you hear this??

I mix chicken, ground beef, etc, with Jackson's food often. It's not any different than mixing canned food with kibble.

I've heard about raw processing differently, but I still don't think it's a bad thing to feed both in one day. But I've never heard of feeding people food and dog food causing issues in my life.

I didn't hear it I've seen it happen. Look at it from a common sense standpoint. Raw meat organs and bone, mostly absorbed into the system with very little waste, dog drinks less because the moisture in the meat is absorbed into their body, 100% natural diet, system processes it more quickly as it's built for this diet.

Kibble, dehydrated whole meats or not, depending on the quality of your kibble, can contain a lot of lab created chemical supplements and corn wheat soy veg fruits, all things not natural to a dogs digestive system. Therefore, it puts more stress on the organs and digestive tract, produces more waste often gas as there is so much unnatural filler. Depending on your dogs immune system and the health of their internal organs, you can get issues. And your dog drinks a lot of water because there is no moisture in the food to hydrate him/her

erika1948 · 01-23-2014, 11:29 AM

Hi, I have a 17 year old yorkie who has become very picky and I now give him anything he wants as long as he eats. These are some of the things he will now eat: milk (loves it), scrambled eggs with parmesan cheese, faux goulash made with egg noodles, ground hamburger and Campbells tomato soup, Royal Canin Gastro food (this you have to get from the vet). Because he has trouble with his teeth now, he will only occasionally eat a few pieces of kibble. When I am home I give him little bits of food during the day and he seems to do better that way.

ShowGirlLola · 01-23-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by erika1948

Hi, I have a 17 year old yorkie who has become very picky and I now give him anything he wants as long as he eats. These are some of the things he will now eat: milk (loves it), scrambled eggs with parmesan cheese, faux goulash made with egg noodles, ground hamburger and Campbells tomato soup, Royal Canin Gastro food (this you have to get from the vet). Because he has trouble with his teeth now, he will only occasionally eat a few pieces of kibble. When I am home I give him little bits of food during the day and he seems to do better that way.

I had to do the same with my poodle the last 6 months of her life. It's fine for an old dog but not a puppy.

erika1948 · 01-23-2014, 01:24 PM

I was very lucky with Rocky. He came from a pet store and has always had a cast iron stomach. He has lived longer than any of my other dogs and has always eaten all kind of things with the exception of things like onion, garlic, chocolate, etc. My poodles seem to have had more problems with their digestion than he ever has.

Britster · 01-24-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Teegy

I didn't hear it I've seen it happen. Look at it from a common sense standpoint. Raw meat organs and bone, mostly absorbed into the system with very little waste, dog drinks less because the moisture in the meat is absorbed into their body, 100% natural diet, system processes it more quickly as it's built for this diet.

Kibble, dehydrated whole meats or not, depending on the quality of your kibble, can contain a lot of lab created chemical supplements and corn wheat soy veg fruits, all things not natural to a dogs digestive system. Therefore, it puts more stress on the organs and digestive tract, produces more waste often gas as there is so much unnatural filler. Depending on your dogs immune system and the health of their internal organs, you can get issues. And your dog drinks a lot of water because there is no moisture in the food to hydrate him/her

I thought you were talking about homecooked (i.e. COOKED, not raw). And I was going to say -- what the heck... you can DEFINITELY feed homecooked and dog kibble at the same time.

BUT, as far as raw goes, from my understanding, the stomach CAN digest both raw and non-raw food at the same time (but some do avoid it). The stomach itself doesn't necessarily "categorize" things according to raw or non-raw. The stomach rather decides whether the substance is a carb, a protein, a fat, a toxin, etc - and then processes that way, followed by moving into the small intestine (when they're ready).

Example with us humans: we can eat sushi and cooked chicken on the same night, heck during the same "meal".

With that said, it's questionable at best if dogs were "built for this diet" in the first place, as the many recent studies prove otherwise.

chestermama · 01-26-2014, 04:36 PM

chester loves his weruva canned food

ShowGirlLola · 01-27-2014, 01:47 PM

Lola has been eatting well the past few days. She's getting weruva with cheese 2x a day and eating a good bit of solid gold wee bit, she's almost done with the 2 sample bags they sent me.

Does anyone know of any other foods similar in texture to weruva (shredded meat)? I know fromm does.

tokipoki · 01-27-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola

Lola has been eatting well the past few days. She's getting weruva with cheese 2x a day and eating a good bit of solid gold wee bit, she's almost done with the 2 sample bags they sent me.

Does anyone know of any other foods similar in texture to weruva (shredded meat)? I know fromm does.

Glad that Lola's been eating the Weruva!

Simply Nourish (Petsmart's premium line) canned foods are similar in consistency to Weruva...they have shredded meat and some are pretty soupy if you get the bisque style ones...they have a chicken bisque one that has a whole, boiled quail egg in it which Toki devoured! We've fed a couple varieties of the stew kind too.

You can see pictures of some of the formulas on this page:

Simply Nourish Wet Dog Food & Stews for Dogs | PetSmart

Also Nature's Recipe has little single serving tubs that are shredded...they are on sale at Petsmart for $1 a tub right now...we stocked up on the grain-free chicken and duck ones to use as a topper/mix-in.

I love using TikiDog which is excellent, especially if you can find a good deal but kind of pricey to feed full-time.

We've also fed the Fromm shredded kind that you mentioned...it's been a while since we used it but I remember that it had a lot of liquidy/thick brothy stuff in the can...really easy to mix with kibble.

Zoey Zendaya · 01-28-2014, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowGirlLola

Lola has been eatting well the past few days. She's getting weruva with cheese 2x a day and eating a good bit of solid gold wee bit, she's almost done with the 2 sample bags they sent me.

Does anyone know of any other foods similar in texture to weruva (shredded meat)? I know fromm does.

What flavor of werurva are you using? And where can you buy it?
Also is your Fromm puppy formula?
I'm still trying around too

ShowGirlLola · 01-28-2014, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoey Zandaya

What flavor of werurva are you using? And where can you buy it?
Also is your Fromm puppy formula?
I'm still trying around too

Lola only likes the shredded chicken weruvas, she doesn't like the mushy ones. She likes the chicken, chicken and salmon, and chicken in pumpkin soup. They have a shredded beef one but it's a lot more expensive. I buy hers at a local natural pet store, the site has a store locater.

Lola won't eat dry fromm, it's all life stages. I haven't tried the wet yet.

I'm not done the food game either, I'm not confident she'll keep eating.
I stopped worrying about keeping her on puppy food when she started being difficult, she's mostly done growing anyway.

ShowGirlLola · 02-09-2014, 10:38 PM

Lola's back to her games.

I had to return 2 open cans of weruva because she wouldn't touch them, they were new flavors (bed and breakfast and amazon liver), so idk if it was the flavor or what. She wouldn't get within 12in of the plate, even with cheese on top of it. I offered her each one 4x. She also snubbed a can of nature's recipe beef something.

She finished both sample bags of the solid gold wee bits, so I bought a bag. She won't touch it. She's currently eating health extension, the problem with that is the only stores around me that carry it won't let me return an open bag if she stops eating it.

She ate some beef earthbound food tonight, but only after I heated it and added cheese.

Zoey Zendaya · 02-10-2014, 08:09 AM

Ugh...me too.....eats samples buy a "small" larger bag , no eat.
Watch the cheese .....fat content awareness.

Over the weekend Zoey here decided to go at her pet stage chewy toy and I knawed the string off and SWALLOWED it. On my lap That! It musta been 5 inches long. When I heard a little noise from her and ii realized what she had done I freaked out . She just looked at me like Whaat Whaat?!

Watching her every move and waiting for her to either poop it out or up chuck it , next day she up chucked it. But eating hasn't changed and she has been throwing up once every night since. Total 3 times. .

I read if they have stomach aches or pain they won't eat, like pancreatitis.
Today is Monday and I'm going to call the vet. She is very active and drinks ok though. I have her on chicken and rice anda little kibble mixed in. We will see how fast she tires of that.totally rejects the party animal now mixed in with kibble warm or cold. Ate a little pumkin after up chuck

Teegy · 02-10-2014, 08:57 AM

No rope or string toys allowed in my home.

Zoey Zendaya · 02-10-2014, 09:42 AM

What do they chew on?
We have bully's too but I'm concerned of digestive issues with them too.
Mercy you woulda thought they would make the sting knots tight enough they couldn't loosen and swallow!

kimp5 · 02-10-2014, 10:36 AM

Just reading through your posts.
yikes that's tough. Have you tried doing a different food each day? say take three different types and give her one in the mornings and a different and night and then a different one the next day, etc etc and then rotate three of them? then you use up each bag but rotate.
The other thing you mentioned, does she want your table food? You said she was looking at someones plate. I know this sounds odd but maybe she wants to eat with you, like you do. I find these dogs can be pretty quirky. Jess sure is although not about food..
I don't mean to give her the table food but maybe her food when you eat and she eats with you so she thinks she is getting the same thing. I know someone once who had a similar problem and put their pup in a highchair (don't laugh) placed the bowl on the highchair table and let the dog eat with them. Worked like a charm. I don't know, just a thought.

01-23-2014, 11:29 AM	#32
erika1948 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 139	Food options Hi, I have a 17 year old yorkie who has become very picky and I now give him anything he wants as long as he eats. These are some of the things he will now eat: milk (loves it), scrambled eggs with parmesan cheese, faux goulash made with egg noodles, ground hamburger and Campbells tomato soup, Royal Canin Gastro food (this you have to get from the vet). Because he has trouble with his teeth now, he will only occasionally eat a few pieces of kibble. When I am home I give him little bits of food during the day and he seems to do better that way.

01-23-2014, 01:24 PM	#34
erika1948 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY Posts: 139	At my wits end I was very lucky with Rocky. He came from a pet store and has always had a cast iron stomach. He has lived longer than any of my other dogs and has always eaten all kind of things with the exception of things like onion, garlic, chocolate, etc. My poodles seem to have had more problems with their digestion than he ever has.

01-26-2014, 04:36 PM	#36
chestermama YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: washington Posts: 3,383 Blog Entries: 1	chester loves his weruva canned food

01-27-2014, 01:47 PM	#37
ShowGirlLola YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 1,354	Lola has been eatting well the past few days. She's getting weruva with cheese 2x a day and eating a good bit of solid gold wee bit, she's almost done with the 2 sample bags they sent me. Does anyone know of any other foods similar in texture to weruva (shredded meat)? I know fromm does.

02-09-2014, 10:38 PM	#41
ShowGirlLola YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 1,354	Lola's back to her games. I had to return 2 open cans of weruva because she wouldn't touch them, they were new flavors (bed and breakfast and amazon liver), so idk if it was the flavor or what. She wouldn't get within 12in of the plate, even with cheese on top of it. I offered her each one 4x. She also snubbed a can of nature's recipe beef something. She finished both sample bags of the solid gold wee bits, so I bought a bag. She won't touch it. She's currently eating health extension, the problem with that is the only stores around me that carry it won't let me return an open bag if she stops eating it. She ate some beef earthbound food tonight, but only after I heated it and added cheese.

02-10-2014, 08:09 AM	#42
Zoey Zendaya Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,221	Ugh...me too.....eats samples buy a "small" larger bag , no eat. Watch the cheese .....fat content awareness. Over the weekend Zoey here decided to go at her pet stage chewy toy and I knawed the string off and SWALLOWED it. On my lap That! It musta been 5 inches long. When I heard a little noise from her and ii realized what she had done I freaked out . She just looked at me like Whaat Whaat?! Watching her every move and waiting for her to either poop it out or up chuck it , next day she up chucked it. But eating hasn't changed and she has been throwing up once every night since. Total 3 times. . I read if they have stomach aches or pain they won't eat, like pancreatitis. Today is Monday and I'm going to call the vet. She is very active and drinks ok though. I have her on chicken and rice anda little kibble mixed in. We will see how fast she tires of that.totally rejects the party animal now mixed in with kibble warm or cold. Ate a little pumkin after up chuck

02-10-2014, 08:57 AM	#43
Teegy Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,631	No rope or string toys allowed in my home.

02-10-2014, 09:42 AM	#44
Zoey Zendaya Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,221	What do they chew on? We have bully's too but I'm concerned of digestive issues with them too. Mercy you woulda thought they would make the sting knots tight enough they couldn't loosen and swallow!

02-10-2014, 10:36 AM	#45
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Just reading through your posts. yikes that's tough. Have you tried doing a different food each day? say take three different types and give her one in the mornings and a different and night and then a different one the next day, etc etc and then rotate three of them? then you use up each bag but rotate. The other thing you mentioned, does she want your table food? You said she was looking at someones plate. I know this sounds odd but maybe she wants to eat with you, like you do. I find these dogs can be pretty quirky. Jess sure is although not about food.. I don't mean to give her the table food but maybe her food when you eat and she eats with you so she thinks she is getting the same thing. I know someone once who had a similar problem and put their pup in a highchair (don't laugh) placed the bowl on the highchair table and let the dog eat with them. Worked like a charm. I don't know, just a thought.