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Old 12-27-2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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Default Late to the oral health game - help!

Unfortunately I have not done a good job of protecting my two Yorkies in the oral health department. I give them greenies every day and I was using a spray for a while that was supposed to limit tartar and plaque, but I recently checked their teeth and was horrified by what I found. Our vet had mentioned before that they could do teeth cleaning, but it involves anesthesia. That really scares me, especially because one of my dogs had knee surgery last year and I don't want to put him through that again. I have started brushing their teeth with baking soda but I am not seeing much of a difference. Please help! Thank you so much!
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How old is he?
Tarter is a toughie......once it's there , I'd have a vet remove it.
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Anesthesia is really not as dangerous as it used to be you just need to get the blood test before to make sure everything is working right. It is better to get it done sooner then later because later can mean they may loose more teeth and it can cause other health issues.
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I'm thinking the vet is the way to go.... We're wrestling with what to do on our dog, we'll go vet... but we rcvd our old man with extensive work that needs to be done. He'll lose the majority of his teeth. Our concerns have to do with quality of life after teeth removal... Don't wait too long...
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Genetics plays a big part of it, so don't beat yourself up. I have one dog who made it 6 years before vet suggested a cleaning because of mild tarter. I have another who didn't make it 2 years before she had bad tarter and needed a cleaning. She's ready again at age 4.

I would recommend the vet and a professional cleaning, then start a regimen of tooth brushing every day. It won't make the problem go away, but it should extend the time between cleanings.
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Anesthesia risks are not comparitive to the for sure health risks of not doing it. Dental health is related to so much more than our social system values an an absessed tooth can mean death. One sweet little girl I met had her dental infection go up and lost her eye, she had loving owners who just didn't understand the importance and the risks of not getting that cleaning. My mamas maltepoo recently had to have multiple teeth pulled at only age three! Again, she was lucky she caught the infection. I support the 'go for it' option get that puppy to the vet and get those teeth cleaned hugs of support
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Thanks for the replies!

What concerns me is anesthesia a second time (he's 10). And my 8 year old has had seizures in the past in is very sensitive. You guys are saying the risk is minimal and worth it?
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Thanks for the replies!

What concerns me is anesthesia a second time (he's 10). And my 8 year old has had seizures in the past in is very sensitive. You guys are saying the risk is minimal and worth it?
Be sure that the vet is aware of your dogs' histories and your concerns. Anesthesia in an older dog shouldn't be a problem. If the teeth are in bad shape and need cleaning, I'd have it done, but if you are still in doubt, or if you don't trust your vet 100%, seek a second opinion from another vet.
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Thanks for the replies!

What concerns me is anesthesia a second time (he's 10). And my 8 year old has had seizures in the past in is very sensitive. You guys are saying the risk is minimal and worth it?
Make sure your vet does a full blood panel (senior dogs needs this done twice a year anyway, once @ bare minimum). Blood work b4 going under is very important, it will show the vet how the dog's organs are doing & if s/he can handle anesthesia.
Clean teeth is a very important part of their health (our's too!). If they get periodontal disease, the bad blood can harm the major organs & bring disease.
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My four year old Max has 75% collapsing trachea and is being treated by the University of Georgia Vet School. One of his meds is an opiate elixir, and before I really noticed, he's developed really heavy, almost concrete like tarter on his front teeth right where I put the syringe in his mouth. He takes it twice a day. A month ago, I started using Peteze Tarter control gel on a tiny toothbrush twice a day. It seemed to help a lot at first, but we're at a stalemate. I've been reading about tooth scaling without anesthesia. Anyone out there tried that? Max has become very tolerant of my messing with his teeth. I use one of those tiny, single use toothbrushes, but I pop the mouthwash 'pearl' out of it first. Fits his tiny mouth perfectly. Should I continue to use the gel? Will it eventually clear his mouth? Would appreciate comments from folks who have solved the plaque problem without anesthesia.
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My four year old Max has 75% collapsing trachea and is being treated by the University of Georgia Vet School. One of his meds is an opiate elixir, and before I really noticed, he's developed really heavy, almost concrete like tarter on his front teeth right where I put the syringe in his mouth. He takes it twice a day. A month ago, I started using Peteze Tarter control gel on a tiny toothbrush twice a day. It seemed to help a lot at first, but we're at a stalemate. I've been reading about tooth scaling without anesthesia. Anyone out there tried that? Max has become very tolerant of my messing with his teeth. I use one of those tiny, single use toothbrushes, but I pop the mouthwash 'pearl' out of it first. Fits his tiny mouth perfectly. Should I continue to use the gel? Will it eventually clear his mouth? Would appreciate comments from folks who have solved the plaque problem without anesthesia.
There are dogs who can be put under even with ct have you talked to you vet about it. The AAHA says non anesthesia cleanings are not good!
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My four year old Max has 75% collapsing trachea and is being treated by the University of Georgia Vet School. One of his meds is an opiate elixir, and before I really noticed, he's developed really heavy, almost concrete like tarter on his front teeth right where I put the syringe in his mouth. He takes it twice a day. A month ago, I started using Peteze Tarter control gel on a tiny toothbrush twice a day. It seemed to help a lot at first, but we're at a stalemate. I've been reading about tooth scaling without anesthesia. Anyone out there tried that? Max has become very tolerant of my messing with his teeth. I use one of those tiny, single use toothbrushes, but I pop the mouthwash 'pearl' out of it first. Fits his tiny mouth perfectly. Should I continue to use the gel? Will it eventually clear his mouth? Would appreciate comments from folks who have solved the plaque problem without anesthesia.
I am also under the impression that dental cleanings without anesthesia are not an acceptable option. Though I would continue with your maintenance cleaning at home I think discussing options with your vet are the best bet. Best of luck
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My four year old Max has 75% collapsing trachea and is being treated by the University of Georgia Vet School. One of his meds is an opiate elixir, and before I really noticed, he's developed really heavy, almost concrete like tarter on his front teeth right where I put the syringe in his mouth. He takes it twice a day. A month ago, I started using Peteze Tarter control gel on a tiny toothbrush twice a day. It seemed to help a lot at first, but we're at a stalemate. I've been reading about tooth scaling without anesthesia. Anyone out there tried that? Max has become very tolerant of my messing with his teeth. I use one of those tiny, single use toothbrushes, but I pop the mouthwash 'pearl' out of it first. Fits his tiny mouth perfectly. Should I continue to use the gel? Will it eventually clear his mouth? Would appreciate comments from folks who have solved the plaque problem without anesthesia.
I've tried anesthesia free cleaning & had a very good experience. You do have to be very careful w/who cleans your dog's teeth. Make sure they have credentials & are trained technicians. I used Houndstooth & they were working out of a holistic vet office. The vet checked the teeth 1st & ok'ed the procedure. Obviously, my guys teeth had a little bit of tartar build up, no periodontal disease or gingivitis. Anesthesia free cleaning should not replace anesthesia dental cleaning. After my girls had anesthesia free cleaning, they had anesthesia dental cleaning by my vet about a year later. One boy will have his 1st anesthesia dental cleaning in Feb & he's 5 years old. Momo is another story, he's the only one that will not let me thoroughly brush his teeth. He wasn't a good candidate for anesthesia free cleaning, he had to go under & he lost 3 small molars on the bottom. That's another issue doing anesthesia free cleaning, they can't determine if the dog needs his/her teeth pulled, a vet needs to do that, so there are dangers & risks involved.

This should be closely discussed w/your vet. If your guy has not had a dental cleaning in awhile, it might be best to do it via anesthesia or some other sedation they suggest. They do have specialists that deal w/high risk patients that need to go under anesthesia.
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