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08-07-2013, 05:50 PM | #46 |
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| Yeah...and everyone was going to die from using products with saccharin. And, dogs are dying from CET water additive. Much ado if you ask me.
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08-07-2013, 06:37 PM | #47 |
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| But I didn't, sheesh! Can't you just leave things as they are instead of nit-picking? It's done....over! I'm here trying to help and all you can do is say I should have done this...should have done that...LET IT BE! Here are some PM's I received recently: "Thank you JuneBugs Momma for adding your findings. The more the better and I appreciate what products you listed!" "I'm glad you posted your list of carrageenan-free foods, for it allowed Minimomo to post her list as well from a while back so now I have both to refer to." Peace!
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08-07-2013, 06:41 PM | #48 |
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| Does splenda have saccharin in it? Do they know what in the CET water additive is make the dogs die?
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08-07-2013, 06:42 PM | #49 | |
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08-07-2013, 07:24 PM | #50 |
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| Well ya should have said that in the first place..LOL!
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08-07-2013, 07:44 PM | #51 |
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| Dogs are not dying....I was just saying that because there are people who nit pick about ingredients in things and I think it is overkill. I have used that stuff without a problem. Same thing with SweetNLow .. it has saccharin in it...there is no proof it causes cancer but many years ago they said it would and scared the heck out of people.
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08-07-2013, 07:47 PM | #52 | |
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08-07-2013, 07:51 PM | #53 |
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| Seems like it's Shark Week on YT too!
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08-07-2013, 09:13 PM | #54 |
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| I had a really bad migraine today, so I won't go into any debate over this but carrageenan is something I CHOOSE not to give to my dogs & I won't be buying any people food w/it either.
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08-07-2013, 09:34 PM | #55 |
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| Looks like if you want to avoid this stuff it may be difficult...here is a list of products it is found in...found this on Wikipedia Food and other domestic uses[edit source | editbeta] Desserts, ice cream, cream, milkshakes, salad dressings, sweetened condensed milks, and sauces: gel to increase viscosity Beer: clarifier to remove haze-causing proteins Pâtés and processed meats (ham, e.g.): substitute for fat, increase water retention and increase volume, or improve sliceability Toothpaste: stabilizer to prevent constituents separating Fruit Gushers: ingredient in the encapsulated gel Fire fighting foam: thickener to cause foam to become sticky Shampoo and cosmetic creams: thickener Air freshener gels Marbling: the ancient art of paper and fabric marbling uses a carrageenan mixture on which to float paints or inks; the paper or fabric is then laid on it, absorbing the colours Shoe polish: gel to increase viscosity Biotechnology: gel to immobilize cells/enzymes Pharmaceuticals: used as an inactive excipient in pills/tablets Soy milk and other plant milks: used to thicken, in an attempt to emulate the consistency of whole milk Diet sodas: to enhance texture and suspend flavours Pet food Personal lubricants Animal models of inflammation used to test analgesics (dilute lambda carrageenan solution (1–2%) injected subcutaneously causes swelling and pain) Veggie dogs
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08-07-2013, 09:48 PM | #56 |
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| Not really, I don't consume or use most the stuff on that list anyway, but toothpaste is a necessity. I get my ice cream from Trader Joe's & it doesn't have carrageenan in it. It has guar gum & that's also known to cause stomach irritation in large amounts, so nothing is 100% safe. It's in a lot of the processed people foods, I was so surprised that half of the stuff was in our fridge!
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08-08-2013, 08:33 AM | #57 |
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| This makes me want to avoid carrageenan as much as I can, from 1st post: The Joint Expert Committee (Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN and the WHO) on Food Additives has recommended that carrageenan be excluded from infant formula and that current intake of carrageenan in the diet be re-evaluated [5]. The implications for human disease may be profound, since carrageenan is consumed in significant quantity in the human diet. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3495619/
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08-08-2013, 11:25 AM | #58 |
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| I may joke about it but I pulled everything from Callie's food/treat closet that has it in them. I have not had the time to look at our human food but I'm less worried about me because it would take a lot more to effect me then Callie. Anything that has a chance of causing cancer I take 100% seriously because every one is getting cancer and its scary.
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08-08-2013, 01:16 PM | #59 |
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| I want to see more on this before I make a decision on whether it's OK or bad. Time and time again, you hear about some sort of food or ingredient being horrible, then they come back and say that it has some sort of awesome benefit. The key, in any case, is usually moderation. Or eat whole, unprocessed foods. Here is an interesting discussion where both sides of the story are discussed. Read the main article, then skip down to the discussion. http://blog.healthkismet.com/carrage...h-inflammation Read the reply @ June 4, 2012 at 7:53 pm, and the further replies to that posting. Seriously, if this person is making food out of that same seaweed, then it has carrageenan in it. But the blogger goes on to tell him that it's OK if consumed as long as it's still part of the seaweed? Then read the reply @ July 16, 2012 at 12:05 pm, and the further replies to that posting. I don't think it's as simple as "all carageenan is bad for everyone." Sure, there could be some people that truly have a problem with it. Some people can't eat peanuts or gluten, etc. But if you don't like the idea of it, don't eat it. Simply put, when it comes to food additives, eat whole foods and stay away from processed foods and your problem is solved. The amounts we are subjected to are probably very little anyway. I can't remember the last time I ate ice cream, and I do eat yogurt but it isn't in the yogurt that I buy. It isn't in any of my dog's food or treats, either.
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08-08-2013, 01:22 PM | #60 | |
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I am not going to go through every product in my home that has this stuff in it and pitch it. I just don't see enough to concern me enough to do that.
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