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Old 01-14-2011, 07:49 PM   #31
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Jackson has done this occasionally. There was one time he was in a step-in harness and saw a rabbit or something and started pulling and he gagged a few times! I don't seem to have the issue with Puppia, like some people do. He doesn't really pull a ton so I couldn't really say one way or the other how often it would happen... but I find that his neck area is pretty sensitive, even for being a big boy like Max and Coop. So I don't really have any answers for you.

I really want to try out the Buddy Belt because I think it looks so nice but I tried the Choke Free (which seems *very* similar) and I returned it because I didn't really like the way it fit him... it seemed uncomfortable and when he laid down, it seemed even tighter, and I don't know, sometimes I leave his harness on. BUT, the Choke Free was basically a one size deal, where I know the BB you can adjust it. Puppia is the only one I've tried that seems comfortable to him, and I'm cautious to spend the big bucks on a BB since he has like an 18" girth, LOL! How do you like yours?
Max had a harness exactly like the Puppia when he was a pup and he coughed/gagged exactly like he does in the Buddy Belt when he pulls hard. I think any harness is probably going to restrict the chest from fully expanding, so the dog can't draw a full breath.

The extreme straining, which will happen even in a thin, strappy harness, I believe is what causes the coughing. When this happens, I make Max sit until he calms down and the cause of his pulling is gone (usually a squirrel or cat ).

Max and Teddy are both comfortable wearing their Buddy Belts when I leave them on for awhile. They will lie down and sleep in them. I will say the larger the BB, the heavier the leather and the longer it takes to break in. The 3 is very soft from the start, but the 4 was stiffer and took a month to soften.

I think the BB would be a huge change from different kinds of harnesses. Jackson is comfortable in his Puppias and he looks great, so I would say, don't bother with the BB.
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I think the BB would be a huge change from different kinds of harnesses. Jackson is comfortable in his Puppias and he looks great, so I would say, don't bother with the BB.
Ha! Thanks. Pretty much summed up what I thought all along. I actually just looked on Amazon and Jackson would need a size 6 and it was like $75! Holy moly, no thanks, lol. They do look very nice though.
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Ha! Thanks. Pretty much summed up what I thought all along. I actually just looked on Amazon and Jackson would need a size 6 and it was like $75! Holy moly, no thanks, lol. They do look very nice though.
Really, I think you would be happier expanding Jackson's collection of Puppias.
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Really, I think you would be happier expanding Jackson's collection of Puppias.
LOL! Definitely. I could buy about 4 Puppia's for that price!
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FWIW, I have two that do that coughing thing once in awhile just from being overly excited, with no harness on, just running around the house. So, maybe once in awhile we blame the harness when it's just a case of over excitement??

I know it's a sign of a weak trachia, I just close my eyes when they do that and send up another little prayer.....
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I played in the backyard with Cooper and Max for an hour today. I then decided to take them for walks because I knew there energy level was low. There was over-crazed hyper energy. There was very little pulling, but there was absolutely no coughing. I'm fairly certain Max's coughing is due to over excitement and pressure on his chest.

I think I'll now start tiring them out before the walk! It was much more pleasant for all 3 of us.
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FWIW, I have two that do that coughing thing once in awhile just from being overly excited, with no harness on, just running around the house. So, maybe once in awhile we blame the harness when it's just a case of over excitement??

I know it's a sign of a weak trachia, I just close my eyes when they do that and send up another little prayer.....
Is it really a sign of a weak trachea?
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Is it really a sign of a weak trachea?
It may or may not be, but I don't think I'd want to answer or assume this without consulting a vet.
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It may or may not be, but I don't think I'd want to answer or assume this without consulting a vet.
Just bracing myself. I was going to take him to the vet next week with his harness on him to see what my vet thinks/says since he's due for his shots anyway.
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Just bracing myself. I was going to take him to the vet next week with his harness on him to see what my vet thinks/says since he's due for his shots anyway.
Believe me, I understand. Don't make yourself upset with worry though. I've done that before and was completely devastated well before a true diagnosis.
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Believe me, I understand. Don't make yourself upset with worry though. I've done that before and was completely devastated well before a true diagnosis.
Gosh I remember all that! I am so glad Max is such a healthy and HAPPY pup. You scored big with that little man! Or... big man? Hehe.
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Gosh I remember all that! I am so glad Max is such a healthy and HAPPY pup. You scored big with that little man! Or... big man? Hehe.
He's a little big His body is funny. He actually looks like he's wearing stilts. I hope his body/legs fill in a little bit. I worry about him because he just appears so awkward. Could be that he's still so young. But boy can he run!
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He's a little big His body is funny. He actually looks like he's wearing stilts. I hope his body/legs fill in a little bit. I worry about him because he just appears so awkward. Could be that he's still so young. But boy can he run!
How I wish we could get our boys together one day! I think the 3 of them would just so cute running together. They all sound like little speed demons. Jackson went through that awkward stage, too, I think. Sometimes when I see pictures, I realize how long his legs are (though Max way beats him in that category!) How much is Mr. Max weighing these days?
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How I wish we could get our boys together one day! I think the 3 of them would just so cute running together. They all sound like little speed demons. Jackson went through that awkward stage, too, I think. Sometimes when I see pictures, I realize how long his legs are (though Max way beats him in that category!) How much is Mr. Max weighing these days?
That would be awesome. They are both really rough and tumble type dogs. I haven't weighed Max, to be honest with you. I believe he's around 11.5. I actually hope he gains a little more weight to fill out. He's long, tall and skinny. He clearly is bigger than Cooper.
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That would be awesome. They are both really rough and tumble type dogs. I haven't weighed Max, to be honest with you. I believe he's around 11.5. I actually hope he gains a little more weight to fill out. He's long, tall and skinny. He clearly is bigger than Cooper.
I'm sure he will gain a little weight Like I told you before, I thought Jackson was staying 12lbs and then suddenly after his 1st birthday, he upped it to 15-16lbs. I've totally invaded this thread with off-topic discussion, so I'll stop now, lol. But just wanted to say I love your boys!
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