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04-26-2010, 03:12 PM | #1 |
YT Addict | Snorting? Early this morning, about 6, Jenna was settling down to go back to sleep after one of her waking episodes, when she curled into a ball and suddenly began taking heaving breaths through her nose and blowing out again. She did this twice or three times in a row and repeated this a couple of times. Then she settled and went back to sleep. Her former owner used a throat collar on her. Could she have developed collapsing trachea? We'll be taking her for a wellness check on Thursday, but is there anything I should do for her before then? Many thanks! |
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04-26-2010, 06:50 PM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Do you know what reverse sneezing looks like? In The Library section, there are videos - see if those look familiar. Also, does she snore? Or, is she having allergies (pollens) right now? You can check pollens in your area at www.pollen.com.
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04-26-2010, 06:58 PM | #3 |
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| Olive does that, and she has allergies. I just looked at the pollen chart... no wonder! We're in an orange zone |
04-26-2010, 09:02 PM | #4 |
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| Katie does that too, and she snores really loud. Yorkies are prone to both reverse sneezing and collapsed trachea. They sound so similar to me, I can't tell the difference.
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04-26-2010, 09:45 PM | #5 |
YT Addict | I watched all three videos. Sadly, none of those are the noises I heard. If I didn't know better, I'd swear she either had something caught in her throat, (not likely, this was before breakfast) or maybe a sleep apnea episode. Can dogs get apnea, does anyone know? I have occasional apnea myself...you know when you wake in the middle of the night gasping thinking you've stopped breathing? (sometimes you have, briefly) She took two or three large inhalations, then exhaled each time just as hard. It doesn't sound like the trachea problem at all. Definitely not kennel cough. Not reverse sneezing either. I'm not even sure now that I think of it that she was conscious at that moment. I wish I'd been filming, but it was way early for me and I was just trying to get her comfy so she could go back to sleep for awhile. She does sneeze, but there's no pollen map for Alaska on that site that I can find. It seems like her sneezing is an excitement thing. When she sees you she gets all wiggly (I think her name should've been Jell-O, not Jenna...lol) and starts pulling her lip back from her upper teeth for a smile and sneezing like crazy. She also likes to wipe her muzzle on her beddy after eating. No snoring. She's a very quiet sleeper actually. |
04-26-2010, 10:12 PM | #6 |
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| Sometimes when mine get too excited they do the snorking too. But in the middle of the night, I dunno.
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04-26-2010, 10:42 PM | #7 |
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| I prefer these examples of reverse sneeze ... what you are describing really sounds like it.... Reverse Sneezing in Dogs Once you have heard a CT you never forget it...it sounds nothing like a reverse sneeze. A reverse sneeze is a lot of inhalations...while CT is more of a cough...air being pushed out. The honk is just like a goose...if you have ever heard them flying above you.
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04-27-2010, 01:43 PM | #8 | |
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04-30-2010, 12:00 PM | #9 |
YT Addict | Jenna had her vet appointment yesterday afternoon. And other than she needs her teeth cleaned (one of her premolars is actually loose and ready to fall-vet tried pulling it but Jenna was already stressed and she didn't want to cause her further discomfort) the doctor pronounced her healthy and in good shape and of the age the shelter lady told us. Her heart sounds good too, no congestion in the lungs, nothing worrisome in her tummy, no mites in her ears...it was all good. We're going to have her lachrymal ducts flushed while she's under for he dental, since her left eye in particular gets pretty weepy. (With the never ending dust in my house, we are not surprised, it affects all our animals.) She does not believe she is purebred, of course...all you have to do is look at her to see that, but we don't care anyway. She thinks her temperament is excellent and we have an appointment for next Wednesday for her teeth. (I'm off to look up anesthesia protocols.) She'll have to go in with the hubby at 7:30 that morning and then we'll have to pick her up sometime in the afternoon. I wish we could be there with her, I fear she'll think we've abandoned her there...so I'll probably send her favorite blanket and one of her plushies with her to remind her of home. I described the symptoms of the breathing oddity to the vet and she also believes it is reverse sneezing. Since Jenna is not full blood Yorkie, she expressed hopes that things that are congenital like CT will be less of a possibility for her. Jenna weighs in at 5.5 pounds. A good weight apparently for one so small. She's not much heavier than one of my house bunnies! 0_o Thank you all for your help in this matter. |
04-30-2010, 12:04 PM | #10 | |
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When this happens, tub her throat and talk gently to her to calm her and get her to stop. Is she her ideal weight? If she happens to be overweight, you will need to trim her down as this helps to keep CT attacks down. As, keeping her belly cool (shaved or wet down), and also steam (steam up a closed bathroom) helps with breathing | |
04-30-2010, 12:09 PM | #11 |
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| Small dogs that owners use collars on for walking or tied out, can def. cause CT issues. |
05-04-2010, 07:07 AM | #12 |
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| What is CT? You talked about reverse sneezing but where does CT fit? |
05-04-2010, 07:11 AM | #13 |
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| CT is a collapsed trachea... small dogs are more prone to it which is why it is important to walk them with a harness and not a collar
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05-04-2010, 07:16 AM | #14 | |
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Here are a couple of links with information about CT: Tracheal Collapse - VeterinaryPartner.com - a VIN company! Collapsed Trachea in Dogs
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05-04-2010, 10:22 AM | #15 |
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| I don't know if this will help any of you whose yorkies reverse sneeze, but I learned a trick to help my Shih Tzu. I just cover his nose with my finger and when he licks his lips and swallows it's over. In fact, when he starts he'll run over to me and stick his nose on my hand (they learn quick). He knows mama can fix it. Experts say it's normal and nothing to worry about, but I think when they have episodes that last more than a few seconds it's scary. |
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