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Dame · 09-07-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MyTrixie143

Thanks for posting this. I have a lot to consider now.

Just in case everyone is browsing through the OP and not realizing this,

Not all the foods listed do contain ethozyquin!

The only manufactorers that do (from this list which is probably not all inclusive) are Artemis, Canidae/Felidae, Chicken Soup, Diamond, Premium Edge, and Taste of the Wild. The others listed use natural & safe preservatives like Naturox (a dry antioxidant), tocopherols (a fat soluble antioxidant), vitamin E (which contains tocopherols) or citric acid (the weak acid found in lemons and oranges etc. that has natural preservative qualities.)

Really appreciate the extensive research done in this... I do look for ethoxyquin free foods but I don't always go far enough to ask what they do use instead. This has been a huge issue in the pet industry, although I think its been something thats gone fairly un-noticed in the cat/dog sector. its been a huge debate for years in fish circles (try finding a fish food without it - I've yet to find one!) as well as the small animal circuit.

The big issue that develops with this (from any manufacturer, like we saw with the huge recall) is that a food is only as good as it's supplies. A lot of fish meal is imported - and it may have additives that neither the supplies or the manufacturer are aware of.

Ethozyquin has been shown to potentially cause some issues, especially with things like cancer. I wouldn't say its the cause for a lot of the cancer issues we do see... but it can definitely be related. (Its like anything... we have lots of studies that seem to say soy ingested daily helps reduce the risk of cancer, and lots of studies that seem to say eating soy regularly increases the risk.) If you feed a food that does not contain fish meal you're most likely safe, and even if you do the amount of ethozyquin present is most likely very minimal. The question just becomes if its worth the risk, and if that risk is worth taking.

jp4m2 · 09-08-2009, 03:13 AM

Thanks for the reminder again....I've tried to be clear that not every name on the list uses ethoxyquin. I put the words in bold letters if they indicated that they do use the ingredient.

The reason I included the ones that do not use it is so people can see which companies responded to they survey and are safe to use....I hope people aren't assuming all on the list use it......

reeses · 09-08-2009, 05:38 AM

Life's Abundance does not use/contain ethoxyquin!!

Izzy Princess · 09-08-2009, 08:52 AM

Holy cow..I'm stunned. I'll tell you why especially with the Natural Balance Fish and Sweet Potato. I just started to feed Izzy this due to her pancreatitis/SIBO/IBD that her nutrionist told us to use since she is now stabalized. I had NO idea Ethoxyquin was in the NB until Jodie and I looked at the can ingredients (I was at her house at the time reading this thread). We were floored..so I am going to email this info to our nutrionist and see what she says (Susan Davis).

I also fed Cosmo Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream (this food was rated so high on Dogaware.com, etc.) so thankfully I only went through one bag with him and then we totally switched to the Nature's Variety Prairie and NV medallions.

Thanks for posting...even though it's a small amount..well think about it..over time it's in your Yorkie's system and it accumulates.

MyTrixie143 · 09-08-2009, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dame

Just in case everyone is browsing through the OP and not realizing this,

Not all the foods listed do contain ethozyquin!

The only manufactorers that do (from this list which is probably not all inclusive) are Artemis, Canidae/Felidae, Chicken Soup, Diamond, Premium Edge, and Taste of the Wild. The others listed use natural & safe preservatives like Naturox (a dry antioxidant), tocopherols (a fat soluble antioxidant), vitamin E (which contains tocopherols) or citric acid (the weak acid found in lemons and oranges etc. that has natural preservative qualities.)

Really appreciate the extensive research done in this... I do look for ethoxyquin free foods but I don't always go far enough to ask what they do use instead. This has been a huge issue in the pet industry, although I think its been something thats gone fairly un-noticed in the cat/dog sector. its been a huge debate for years in fish circles (try finding a fish food without it - I've yet to find one!) as well as the small animal circuit.

The big issue that develops with this (from any manufacturer, like we saw with the huge recall) is that a food is only as good as it's supplies. A lot of fish meal is imported - and it may have additives that neither the supplies or the manufacturer are aware of.

Ethozyquin has been shown to potentially cause some issues, especially with things like cancer. I wouldn't say its the cause for a lot of the cancer issues we do see... but it can definitely be related. (Its like anything... we have lots of studies that seem to say soy ingested daily helps reduce the risk of cancer, and lots of studies that seem to say eating soy regularly increases the risk.) If you feed a food that does not contain fish meal you're most likely safe, and even if you do the amount of ethozyquin present is most likely very minimal. The question just becomes if its worth the risk, and if that risk is worth taking.

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately mine are fed Canidae which is on the list for using it (they do use fish meal).
I guess I will be switching their food again.
I appreciate the list, it gives me a few options to switch to that don't contain ethozyquin.

Breny · 09-08-2009, 09:39 AM

Life's Abundance contains no chemicals such as BHA or BHT or ethoxyquin, which many pet professionals consider harmful to pets. These chemicals are used in pet foods to allow food to have a long shelf life.

Many foods are stored in warehouses or tractor trailer trucks for up to 18 months before they arrive at stores for purchase. Life's Abundance does not mass produce their food. It is always shipped fresh to your door!

You can trust Life's Abundance Pet food to have your pet's health & well-being in mind with every batch they make! Not only will your pet feel better, but so will you knowing that you are providing a quality food for your pet.

Look at the link in my signature. Great, safe food!

jp4m2 · 09-08-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Izzy Princess

Holy cow..I'm stunned. I'll tell you why especially with the Natural Balance Fish and Sweet Potato. I just started to feed Izzy this due to her pancreatitis/SIBO/IBD that her nutrionist told us to use since she is now stabalized. I had NO idea Ethoxyquin was in the NB until Jodie and I looked at the can ingredients (I was at her house at the time reading this thread). We were floored..so I am going to email this info to our nutrionist and see what she says (Susan Davis).

I also fed Cosmo Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream (this food was rated so high on Dogaware.com, etc.) so thankfully I only went through one bag with him and then we totally switched to the Nature's Variety Prairie and NV medallions.

Thanks for posting...even though it's a small amount..well think about it..over time it's in your Yorkie's system and it accumulates.

WOW!...That is scary...I agree, it sometimes is cumulative...They will try and tell you it's only a small "safe" amount so don't worry. Is there really a "safe " amount of poison??

Natural Balance actually listed it on the label??

jp4m2 · 09-08-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breny

Life's Abundance contains no chemicals such as BHA or BHT or ethoxyquin, which many pet professionals consider harmful to pets. These chemicals are used in pet foods to allow food to have a long shelf life.

Many foods are stored in warehouses or tractor trailer trucks for up to 18 months before they arrive at stores for purchase. Life's Abundance does not mass produce their food. It is always shipped fresh to your door!

You can trust Life's Abundance Pet food to have your pet's health & well-being in mind with every batch they make! Not only will your pet feel better, but so will you knowing that you are providing a quality food for your pet.

Look at the link in my signature. Great, safe food!

Your right!!...The author of the article stated that when she contacted a company to ask about the chemical they told her the food would last about 25 years with this preservative!!

Izzy Princess · 09-08-2009, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp4m2

WOW!...That is scary...I agree, it sometimes is cumulative...They will try and tell you it's only a small "safe" amount so don't worry. Is there really a "safe " amount of poison??

Natural Balance actually listed it on the label??

No but listed as "fish meal."

Zanders' mom · 09-12-2009, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jp4m2

Hello Patti, according to the list California Natural uses Vit. E to preserve it's fish meal, so it looks ok......The author of this article said her eight year old dog developed bone cancer from this ingredient. I would be livid if it where my pet....

Here is an ingredient NOT listed on California Natural ... when I called the company the rep was very calm and told me that it is impossible to have all the hair removed from the lamb

, that dogs are used to eating hair when they kill their prey in the wild

, whhhaaattt!?? I am paying for the food, for human grade food, I don't see the meat at the grocery store containing animal hair! Needless to say I am NOT an Calif. Natural fan anymore

kval07 · 09-12-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zanders' mom

Here is an ingredient NOT listed on California Natural ... when I called the company the rep was very calm and told me that it is impossible to have all the hair removed from the lamb

, that dogs are used to eating hair when they kill their prey in the wild

, whhhaaattt!?? I am paying for the food, for human grade food, I don't see the meat at the grocery store containing animal hair! Needless to say I am NOT an Calif. Natural fan anymore

Eww!

YorkichonBella · 09-12-2009, 06:21 PM

Another informative post about what we feed our babies....Thanks! In another recent post, there was bad news about Wellness: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-9-3-09-a.html

In the past, I fed the Wellness Fish/Swt Potato. There were threads posted about small fish bones in the kibble & I discontinued to buy it, but Bella never seemed thrilled about that variety anyway.

But this is All so scary & troublesome!!

polomysweetpup · 09-12-2009, 07:07 PM

Does anyone know if Natural Balance Potato and Duck formula has Ethoxyquin in it?

Zanders' mom · 09-12-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by polomysweetpup

Does anyone know if Natural Balance Potato and Duck formula has Ethoxyquin in it?

It doesn't seem like it, it didn't say fish meal or ethoxyquin.
Dick Van Patten's Natural Balance® L.I.D. Limited Ingredient Diets® Potato & Duck Formula

chestermama · 09-13-2009, 05:46 PM

I was noticing that solid gold does have this in their food, this does not make me very happy. The earlier post said that from diamond food their foods manufactured with fish meal, ocean fish meal and salmon meal does contain ethoxyquin, I will swithing in a hot minute if this is the case, this makes me very angry towards solid gold.

09-08-2009, 03:13 AM	#32
jp4m2 Love my Boys Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: w/ my boys Posts: 5,056	Thanks for the reminder again....I've tried to be clear that not every name on the list uses ethoxyquin. I put the words in bold letters if they indicated that they do use the ingredient. The reason I included the ones that do not use it is so people can see which companies responded to they survey and are safe to use....I hope people aren't assuming all on the list use it...... __________________ B.J.mom to : Jake J.J. Jack & Joey, momma misses you..... The joy found in the companionship of a pet is a blessing not given to everyone. The two most powerful words when we’re in struggle: me too..

09-08-2009, 08:52 AM	#34
Izzy Princess Therapy Dog Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,635 Blog Entries: 1	Holy cow..I'm stunned. I'll tell you why especially with the Natural Balance Fish and Sweet Potato. I just started to feed Izzy this due to her pancreatitis/SIBO/IBD that her nutrionist told us to use since she is now stabalized. I had NO idea Ethoxyquin was in the NB until Jodie and I looked at the can ingredients (I was at her house at the time reading this thread). We were floored..so I am going to email this info to our nutrionist and see what she says (Susan Davis). I also fed Cosmo Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream (this food was rated so high on Dogaware.com, etc.) so thankfully I only went through one bag with him and then we totally switched to the Nature's Variety Prairie and NV medallions. Thanks for posting...even though it's a small amount..well think about it..over time it's in your Yorkie's system and it accumulates. __________________ Cynd, Izzy (Yorkie) & Cosmo (Biewer)(Secwetary & Charter Membwer of the Dirty FurKids Cwub)-Jusz say NO ta bein' cwean!)proud member of the *CrAzYcLu*B! ~The PINK club~SRC

09-08-2009, 09:39 AM	#36
Breny My Tiny Treasures Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 11,790 Blog Entries: 3	Life's Abundance contains no chemicals such as BHA or BHT or ethoxyquin, which many pet professionals consider harmful to pets. These chemicals are used in pet foods to allow food to have a long shelf life. Many foods are stored in warehouses or tractor trailer trucks for up to 18 months before they arrive at stores for purchase. Life's Abundance does not mass produce their food. It is always shipped fresh to your door! You can trust Life's Abundance Pet food to have your pet's health & well-being in mind with every batch they make! Not only will your pet feel better, but so will you knowing that you are providing a quality food for your pet. Look at the link in my signature. Great, safe food! __________________ http://Brenysbabies.com

09-12-2009, 06:21 PM	#42
YorkichonBella My little Shadow Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NC Posts: 4,132 Blog Entries: 2	Another informative post about what we feed our babies....Thanks! In another recent post, there was bad news about Wellness: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/yor...-9-3-09-a.html In the past, I fed the Wellness Fish/Swt Potato. There were threads posted about small fish bones in the kibble & I discontinued to buy it, but Bella never seemed thrilled about that variety anyway. But this is All so scary & troublesome!! __________________ Bella Ganma-ma to ColeRIPNoahRIP

09-08-2009, 05:38 AM	#33
reeses My Lil Man! Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,703 Blog Entries: 2	Life's Abundance does not use/contain ethoxyquin!!

09-12-2009, 07:07 PM	#43
polomysweetpup YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372	Does anyone know if Natural Balance Potato and Duck formula has Ethoxyquin in it?

09-13-2009, 05:46 PM	#45
chestermama YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: washington Posts: 3,383 Blog Entries: 1	I was noticing that solid gold does have this in their food, this does not make me very happy. The earlier post said that from diamond food their foods manufactured with fish meal, ocean fish meal and salmon meal does contain ethoxyquin, I will swithing in a hot minute if this is the case, this makes me very angry towards solid gold.