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Old 08-27-2009, 05:30 AM   #1
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I have been very happy with our probiotic from Holistic Veterinarian Pet Nutritionist Holistic Pet Care.
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The Animal Essentials line is recommended by many holistic vets.

I use their Plant Enzymes and Probiotics. I found it cheaper on Amazon than on their main website:

Amazon.com: Animal Essentials Plant Enzymes and...Amazon.com: Animal Essentials Plant Enzymes and...
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i recently started giving her Vitamineral Green which has probiotic and digestive enzymes from plant; do you think this is enough to give. also would you recommend any additional vitamins? i was researching and i found this from flying basset; what do you think?
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i recently started giving her Vitamineral Green which has probiotic and digestive enzymes from plant; do you think this is enough to give. also would you recommend any additional vitamins? i was researching and i found this from flying basset; what do you think?
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Is Ava getting a high quality commercial diet? If so, you don't have to add additional vitamins.

I give Lady Animal Essentials Multivitamins, but she is on a homecooked diet.
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Is Ava getting a high quality commercial diet? If so, you don't have to add additional vitamins.

I give Lady Animal Essentials Multivitamins, but she is on a homecooked diet.
she was recently in the hospital due to gastritis; so i have been feeding her boiled chicken and rice with some gerber baby food.
that's why i want to giver her some supplements; she also has a bloated stomach; not sure why

i want to switch her to the honest kitchen semi raw food; however since i feed her 4 times daily (small amts) ; i am not sure how to feed THK food (which is twice daily)
it's all confusing to me and i am also afraid that THK will hurt her stomach again; but i won't know until she eats it for a while.

thanks for your input.
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she was recently in the hospital due to gastritis; so i have been feeding her boiled chicken and rice with some gerber baby food.
that's why i want to giver her some supplements; she also has a bloated stomach; not sure why

i want to switch her to the honest kitchen semi raw food; however since i feed her 4 times daily (small amts) ; i am not sure how to feed THK food (which is twice daily)
it's all confusing to me and i am also afraid that THK will hurt her stomach again; but i won't know until she eats it for a while.

thanks for your input.
We use THK Preference and add our own protein (Tilapia) but Izzy has pancreatitis/IBD/SIBO and not sure about gastritis but sounds similar to what Izzy has. She has to watch the fat and protein levels to make sure they are not high. You can also feed THK 4 times a day as that would not be a problem. Just take what you would feed her 2x a day and divide by 4.

Izzy is also on Vitamineral Green and Ask Ariel probiotics and more. I would like to try the Animal Essentials.

Ladymom is this in capsule form or loose powder?
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It's loose powder.
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It's loose powder.

Thanks so much I like the loose powder vs. the capsules since I don't use an entire capsule for Izzy..with the loose I can start to give some to Cosmo, too!
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We use THK Preference and add our own protein (Tilapia) but Izzy has pancreatitis/IBD/SIBO and not sure about gastritis but sounds similar to what Izzy has. She has to watch the fat and protein levels to make sure they are not high. You can also feed THK 4 times a day as that would not be a problem. Just take what you would feed her 2x a day and divide by 4.

Izzy is also on Vitamineral Green and Ask Ariel probiotics and more. I would like to try the Animal Essentials.

Ladymom is this in capsule form or loose powder?
i did get a trial size honest kitchen force; however it says to feed 1/2cup daily; that means i have to split it to 1/8 cup each meal; i tried doing that yesterday and the amount was so small and i didnt think it was enough for her to eat; i am not sure if that will keep her stomach full; see when she gets hungry or when her stomach is empty she starts vomiting right away; so the vet told me to avoid that and feed her multiples small meals. however 1/8 cup didnt seem enough for her to be full. you think i can add some oatmeal or rice with it?
how long has izzy been eating THK; has she been doing well; no incidents? how do you cook the tilapia; do u add anything else to the preference formula.

as for the supplements i am going to keep her on Vitamineral Green and get the Animal Essentials probiotic and the multivitamin; i think that should be enough; right?
thanks again everyone.
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i did get a trial size honest kitchen force; however it says to feed 1/2cup daily; that means i have to split it to 1/8 cup each meal; i tried doing that yesterday and the amount was so small and i didnt think it was enough for her to eat; i am not sure if that will keep her stomach full; see when she gets hungry or when her stomach is empty she starts vomiting right away; so the vet told me to avoid that and feed her multiples small meals. however 1/8 cup didnt seem enough for her to be full. you think i can add some oatmeal or rice with it?
how long has izzy been eating THK; has she been doing well; no incidents? how do you cook the tilapia; do u add anything else to the preference formula.

as for the supplements i am going to keep her on Vitamineral Green and get the Animal Essentials probiotic and the multivitamin; i think that should be enough; right?
thanks again everyone.

First - you don't need to add a multivitamin with already giving the vitamineral green. This is a whole food product that you use instead of a traditional vitamin. I would still add the probiotic though.

If you add your own protein to The Honest Kitchen Preference, it will increase the amount of food. Even feeding twice a day, the amount looks small. My girls get Preference as their dinner with approximately 1 oz of cooked Talapia in it. Although that is a small amount of talapia, it pretty much doubles the portion of food. If you broke this up into four small meals, it should work just fine. When you feed a high quality diet, you're giving so much less food than you would think. Keep in mind that if our human stomachs are approximately the size of a hand, just how small their stomachs must be - so even 1/4 cup fills it pretty quickly.

I would definitely not add oatmeal or rice to the food. Rice is difficult to digest normally, even more so when they are having gastric issues. Oatmeal would be a healthier option if you are using steel cut or oldfashioned oats, but not necessary. If anything I would add a little more veggies - like some pure canned pumpkin.

You may want to consider adding colostrum (you can get this from askariel.com as well). You can give this each night, or every other night. It helps build the immune system and they love the taste. Simply take a little warm water and open a capsule on top of it.....
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First - you don't need to add a multivitamin with already giving the vitamineral green. This is a whole food product that you use instead of a traditional vitamin. I would still add the probiotic though.

If you add your own protein to The Honest Kitchen Preference, it will increase the amount of food. Even feeding twice a day, the amount looks small. My girls get Preference as their dinner with approximately 1 oz of cooked Talapia in it. Although that is a small amount of talapia, it pretty much doubles the portion of food. If you broke this up into four small meals, it should work just fine. When you feed a high quality diet, you're giving so much less food than you would think. Keep in mind that if our human stomachs are approximately the size of a hand, just how small their stomachs must be - so even 1/4 cup fills it pretty quickly.

I would definitely not add oatmeal or rice to the food. Rice is difficult to digest normally, even more so when they are having gastric issues. Oatmeal would be a healthier option if you are using steel cut or oldfashioned oats, but not necessary. If anything I would add a little more veggies - like some pure canned pumpkin.

You may want to consider adding colostrum (you can get this from askariel.com as well). You can give this each night, or every other night. It helps build the immune system and they love the taste. Simply take a little warm water and open a capsule on top of it.....
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do i have to introduce 50/50; or give THK 100% directly?
how much colostrum do you give?
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do i have to introduce 50/50; or give THK 100% directly?
You can give it directly. There should be no issue changing over whatsoever. Hope it helps your furkid tremendously. My Sissy was diagnosed last fall with early stage Protein Losing ENteropathy - a severe digestive disorder. We were already using THK, just tweaked what we were doing on the advicoe of a nuritionist and this was when we began using Preference with the Talapia.

We also stopped using Grizzly Salmon Oil and instead use organic coconul oil (1/4 tsp melted mixed in with her food once a day). Coconut oil has so many health benefits - they are too numerous to name. I believe Sissy turned a postive corner once we started adding this. Her coat is completely different now also!!!!!!
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You can give it directly. There should be no issue changing over whatsoever. Hope it helps your furkid tremendously. My Sissy was diagnosed last fall with early stage Protein Losing ENteropathy - a severe digestive disorder. We were already using THK, just tweaked what we were doing on the advicoe of a nuritionist and this was when we began using Preference with the Talapia.

We also stopped using Grizzly Salmon Oil and instead use organic coconul oil (1/4 tsp melted mixed in with her food once a day). Coconut oil has so many health benefits - they are too numerous to name. I believe Sissy turned a postive corner once we started adding this. Her coat is completely different now also!!!!!!
sorry to ask so many questions; where do you get the coconut oil from? and how much colustrum do you give?
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