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Yorkiekids · 01-23-2009, 04:17 PM

Are grain free foods better for dogs with allergies? Do they pump up the protein to make up for the lack of grain? How much protein is too much, and what could it do to them. Can someone recommend some good grain free foods that they've used with success. Piper is such a picky eater.

marcerella02 · 01-23-2009, 04:48 PM

there is no such thing as too much protein unless your dog has liver issues. Grain free foods are naturally higher in protein as there is no grain so the percentage of protein naturally increases. I like grain free- i don't feel dogs need grains and they are the root of many allergies and often just used as fillers.

Orijen is grain free, Natural Balance has grain free varieties and Merrkicks has a new food- BG- Before Grain.

PrincessDiana · 01-23-2009, 05:07 PM

We feed Wellness Core (Regular and Ocean) as well as Nature's Variety Instinct (Chicken and Turkey/Duck). My dogs have thrived on it!

Yorkiekids · 01-24-2009, 03:24 PM

Thanks for your suggestions.

phfgkl · 01-24-2009, 03:35 PM

It's really funny you asked this question. A week or two I started a thread about dog foods, etc. Well, most people will tell you vets don't know much about dog foods, well, I did find out yesterday, my vet(and yeah, she does sell some purina foods) is very good with allergies and testing. She said that some dogs aren't as allergic to foods with corn as they are certain meats in the "expensive foods". I'm going to do some more talking to her on these expensive versus purina foods when we have time to talk and see what else she has to say. I'm also going to talk to her about the grains, proteins, etc.

Keely_momma · 01-24-2009, 03:40 PM

lol.. BUt the vet isnt making money off these grainb free foods..lol.. he/she is making money off the crappier food..

And I stand behind the fact that vets no didly squat about foods.

PrincessDiana · 01-24-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by phfgkl

It's really funny you asked this question. A week or two I started a thread about dog foods, etc. Well, most people will tell you vets don't know much about dog foods, well, I did find out yesterday, my vet(and yeah, she does sell some purina foods) is very good with allergies and testing. She said that some dogs aren't as allergic to foods with corn as they are certain meats in the "expensive foods". I'm going to do some more talking to her on these expensive versus purina foods when we have time to talk and see what else she has to say. I'm also going to talk to her about the grains, proteins, etc.

Just because she is good with allergies and testing does not mean she knows anything about nutrition. This is starting to get ridiculous.

Keely_momma · 01-24-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana

This is starting to get ridiculous.

My thoughts exactly.

mscat · 01-24-2009, 03:53 PM

I feed Suzi a kibble called By Nature... It is grain free, and scored a 4 on the pre. dog food list. So I am now giving Suzi canned food by the same company that scored a 6 on the list... She loves this brand of food.

Lolapup · 01-24-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessDiana
This is starting to get ridiculous.

My thoughts exactly.
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MY vet DOES recommend either raw or grain free. He also sells it. He said my Lola is a carnivore....isn't everyone's?

Keely_momma · 01-24-2009, 04:00 PM

YOur dog should do fine on a HIGH protien food. IF he/she is getting to USE the protein. Putting a dog on high protein foods is not a good idea without getting a good amount of excersize.

When excersizing, the muscles accually tear. And They use the protein to repair them. Making them stroger. If The muscles dont need the protein, It will go to waste. It will have to be processed through the liver. Which in turn can cause liver problems. Them the protein will most likely be lost through the waste material. After some is used to make pretty and shiney hair! lol .. So a high protein food is, in my opinion, only good when your dog is getting exsersize. lol

Keely_momma · 01-24-2009, 07:46 PM

lol.. funny.. Anyways.. Umm if shes selling it, shes making money off it. She studied "lots" about dogs and allergies. You mention nothing about FOOD.

What does being old have to do with it? And old vet would have more experiance, and i would be more inclined to take an old vets word as a grain of salt.

emilyann · 01-24-2009, 08:02 PM

Why are you ladies arguing

?! No need for that

Keely_momma · 01-24-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by emilyann

Why are you ladies arguing

?! No need for that

Well, I wasnt really arguing before. I was stating the truth, But then i was called stupid. Sooooo

xoxodoglover89 · 01-24-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by emilyann

Why are you ladies arguing

?! No need for that

I agree! Everyone has their own opinions! There's no need to start arguing over a topic, even if you don't agree with what someone said.

01-23-2009, 04:17 PM	#1
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	Grain free foods Are grain free foods better for dogs with allergies? Do they pump up the protein to make up for the lack of grain? How much protein is too much, and what could it do to them. Can someone recommend some good grain free foods that they've used with success. Piper is such a picky eater. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

01-23-2009, 04:48 PM	#2
marcerella02 Loved by Layla Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 11,257	there is no such thing as too much protein unless your dog has liver issues. Grain free foods are naturally higher in protein as there is no grain so the percentage of protein naturally increases. I like grain free- i don't feel dogs need grains and they are the root of many allergies and often just used as fillers. Orijen is grain free, Natural Balance has grain free varieties and Merrkicks has a new food- BG- Before Grain. __________________ http://misscanam.blogspot.com/ Layla 's Simon

01-23-2009, 05:07 PM	#3
PrincessDiana I ♥ Franklin & Maggie Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 2,068	We feed Wellness Core (Regular and Ocean) as well as Nature's Variety Instinct (Chicken and Turkey/Duck). My dogs have thrived on it! __________________ Diana , Mommy to Franklin, Maggie, Oliver, and Millie - RIP Piper

01-24-2009, 03:24 PM	#4
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	Thanks for your suggestions. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

01-24-2009, 03:53 PM	#9
mscat YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hanford, CA Posts: 4,895	I feed Suzi a kibble called By Nature... It is grain free, and scored a 4 on the pre. dog food list. So I am now giving Suzi canned food by the same company that scored a 6 on the list... She loves this brand of food. __________________ "No matter how little money & how few possessions, you own, having a dog makes you rich."

01-24-2009, 03:35 PM	#5
phfgkl BANNED! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 2,376	It's really funny you asked this question. A week or two I started a thread about dog foods, etc. Well, most people will tell you vets don't know much about dog foods, well, I did find out yesterday, my vet(and yeah, she does sell some purina foods) is very good with allergies and testing. She said that some dogs aren't as allergic to foods with corn as they are certain meats in the "expensive foods". I'm going to do some more talking to her on these expensive versus purina foods when we have time to talk and see what else she has to say. I'm also going to talk to her about the grains, proteins, etc.

01-24-2009, 03:40 PM	#6
Keely_momma No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newfoundland Canada Posts: 392	lol.. BUt the vet isnt making money off these grainb free foods..lol.. he/she is making money off the crappier food.. And I stand behind the fact that vets no didly squat about foods.

01-24-2009, 03:56 PM	#10
Lolapup No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Littleton, NH Posts: 463	Quote: Originally Posted by PrincessDiana This is starting to get ridiculous. My thoughts exactly. __________________ SIGH MY vet DOES recommend either raw or grain free. He also sells it. He said my Lola is a carnivore....isn't everyone's? Last edited by Lolapup; 01-24-2009 at 03:59 PM.

01-24-2009, 04:00 PM	#11
Keely_momma No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newfoundland Canada Posts: 392	YOur dog should do fine on a HIGH protien food. IF he/she is getting to USE the protein. Putting a dog on high protein foods is not a good idea without getting a good amount of excersize. When excersizing, the muscles accually tear. And They use the protein to repair them. Making them stroger. If The muscles dont need the protein, It will go to waste. It will have to be processed through the liver. Which in turn can cause liver problems. Them the protein will most likely be lost through the waste material. After some is used to make pretty and shiney hair! lol .. So a high protein food is, in my opinion, only good when your dog is getting exsersize. lol

01-24-2009, 07:46 PM	#12
Keely_momma No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newfoundland Canada Posts: 392	lol.. funny.. Anyways.. Umm if shes selling it, shes making money off it. She studied "lots" about dogs and allergies. You mention nothing about FOOD. What does being old have to do with it? And old vet would have more experiance, and i would be more inclined to take an old vets word as a grain of salt. Last edited by admin; 01-24-2009 at 10:08 PM. Reason: Removed quoted post

01-24-2009, 08:02 PM	#13
emilyann Lovin' My LilBug! Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,513	Why are you ladies arguing ?! No need for that __________________ love my lillybug! rags and ribbons!