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11-30-2008, 07:49 AM | #16 | |
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I agree 100%. Here is the information about the Protein C test and where to send it. Most vets see so little liver disease they are not familiar with the current protocol. Comparative Coagulation -- NYS Animal Health Diagnostic Center | |
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11-30-2008, 07:57 AM | #17 |
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| Abnormal Bile Acid Panel Hi all, I also just joined the forum. My 7 month old yorkie was found to have high liver levels pre labs for her spay. We just underwent the Bile acid panel and were informed- abnormal. Pre level was 33.7, post meal was 68.4. My vet is either recommending 1) medical mgment only and diet which can eventually catch up with her or 2) a referral to other hospital for extensive testing. He suggests this is a shunt. Any feedback or information? I am just lost, my little Lilly is my cuddlebug. |
11-30-2008, 08:10 AM | #18 | |
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11-30-2008, 08:15 AM | #19 | |
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11-30-2008, 12:25 PM | #20 | |
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Typically numbers that are above normal but under 100 are more indicative of MVD (microscopic shunting throughout the liver) and numbers above 100 are more indicative of liver shunt. This is ONLY a *guideline* though...There are dogs that have had numbers under 100 with a liver shunt and dogs with numbers above 100 with MVD. The main thing right now if your baby has any symptoms at all is to get her on the right *type* of protein which should be vegetarian/dairy because these types are less encephalogenic. Canned L/D or dry Royal Canin Hepatic LS 14 are recommended if symptomatic. If not, Natural Balance Vegetarian. Also, it's important to avoid single large meals. Make sure she's eating at least 4 small meals per day to help lighten the load on the liver.
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11-30-2008, 01:55 PM | #21 | |
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11-30-2008, 04:24 PM | #23 |
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| All I have done so far is changed him to canned LD food because it has lower protein than dry. I plan to take him back to get another bile acids test since he has been on it now for awhile just to see if it has gone down at all. You can do ultrasounds and things like that but it is going to cost quite a bit of money. Good luck with everything. |
11-30-2008, 07:33 PM | #24 | |
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Roxy's first BAT was 100.9 and with diet change and supplements, she has come down to the 60 to 85 range. She is doing well Last edited by TLC; 11-30-2008 at 07:34 PM. | |
12-02-2008, 05:15 PM | #25 |
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| I have an appointment with the vet tomorrow to discuss options. I will certainly request a repeat of BAT. The vet originally put Lilly on Adenosyl when her first liver enzyme came back high. Funny thing is when I took her in for the BAT he said her liver enzymes had come down to normal? I have continued her on the Adenosyl as he never said to stop it. Any suggestions for low protein treats? She is always chewing on my golden's bones, I assume I should keep these away from her?
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12-02-2008, 07:36 PM | #26 | |
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12-02-2008, 08:05 PM | #27 | |
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12-02-2008, 08:08 PM | #28 |
♥ love my girls!! ♥ Donating Member | I should have said, those are good protein sources...to start with! Several members who have liver compromised dogs manage their disease just fine using chicken and fish in their diet, but you should probably start out a little more strict until you know for sure what you're dealing with. At least, that's what I've heard and what I'm doing. Then, you could add chicken or fish (no red meats though!) back in depending on her symptoms and diagnosis.
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12-02-2008, 08:09 PM | #29 |
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| Do you make your own Dried Sweet Potato, or is it available is stores? Sounds like just what I need for my Liver Challenged/ not yet diagnosed, Tiki.
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12-02-2008, 09:32 PM | #30 | |
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http://www.cloudstar.com/8B85D0640D2...E42118096B204A I love Cloud Star's Itty Bitty Buddy Biscuit Sweet Potato Madness. Just make sure you are giving Tiki enough protein. Unlike dogs with kidney disease, low protein diets are not appropriate for liver compromised dogs. They can actually damage the liver further and/or prevent it from repairing itself. The key is to feed high quality protein from dairy or chicken and fish. Protein should be about 20% of their diet. | |
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