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07-23-2008, 05:24 PM | #1 |
Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Glendale/AZ
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| RAW Diets And Vegetables Before Prey Model, I started RAW with premade brands. I tried NV, Primal, Oma's Pride, Bravo just to name a few. To make it more cost effective I eventually moved on to grinds that were sold through a local co-op. Among other issues I have with them, I also found one major flaw so I quit buying any of these premade brands; VEGETABLES! Since I was trying to bring my yorkie "Toy" back from the dead (or so it seemed at the time) the much discussed vegetable issue in raw circles had me listening and researching even more. I had no choice but to "experiment" by leaving them out of my dog's diet as his condition got better but not as good as I had hoped for on premade grinds that contained veggies and supplements in some cases. My intention is not to scare monger, only to provoke caution regarding the ingredients on labels; - Cruciferous veggies (broccoli, bok choi, kale, collard & mustard greens) interfere with thyroid function. Cooking makes them "okay" again. - Sugary veggies (including carrots, sweet potatoes, and winter squash) can be a problem for yeasty dogs. - Oxalic acid containing veggies should be used with caution, particularly in dogs prone to kidney stones. Cooking does NOT affect the oxalic acid content of things like chard and spinach. Rhubarb should be avoided. - Parsley, watercress, and celery are diuretic and can make dogs who already leak urine even more drippy. - The nightshade veggies like tomatoes, peppers, white potatoes, and eggplant can aggravate arthritis.
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07-23-2008, 06:03 PM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Yep! SOME day when I get my lazy butt in gear - I shall make my own grinds. I really wish Pre-made brands would NOT add so much to their patties/medallions/chubs - it really is overkill. If they'd add *less*, they'd save themselves money and allow us to feed our babies an even simpler diet! Though they use "premium" ingredients (you know what I mean), all of them are just not necessary for these little carnivores. And, it's SO important to remind everyone about veg. for dogs w/ yeast (such a battle). Great post!
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07-23-2008, 06:13 PM | #3 |
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| I couldn't agree more. While I give my dogs the occasional blueberry, I prefer not to include veggies and fruit in their regular diets. I am using primal right now, but my Louis is still a bit yeasty, even with regular probiotic... I am certain its the fruits and veggies, so I have started feeding organic chicken parts and buying organs and other meats from a butcher and just giving them to him to chow down on. A local pet shop also sells 'parts' ready to eat and fresh green tripe so he is only eating primal about 50% of the time and I am seeing positive changes! Another benefit - he is EXHAUSTED after feeding time
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07-23-2008, 06:31 PM | #4 | |
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| Veggies and yeasty dogs Exhausted- LOL. Yep! Having to work at the presented food gives dogs a physical work out as well as mental stimulation! I also find it interesting that you're seeing a difference just by reducing the Primal! I eventually cut out EVERYTHING and went "hardcore" prey model. Surprise, suprise; Toy went through detox again after that.... it reminded me just how severely polluted and fragile his health really was. Of course, diet alone did not bring him there in the first place. The yearly plethora of vaccinations should have its own section of victim accounts. But what really did my dog in was Heartguard and Frontline! P.S. If anybody wants to make the leap to home grinding, I had the pleasure of testing a few duds to end up with a winner; SILLY PUGS & MORE: A DOG-FRIENDLY, RAW-FRIENDLY SITE Quote:
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