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jencar98 06-12-2010 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jadabug (Post 3160707)
The last two baths, I finally got the nerve up to blow dry. It does make a difference. Just low heat and I am really careful to keep the dryer at least 12" or more away, and keep my hand in front of it so I can feel how warm it is as I am drying. It is a lot easier and quicker than air drying too:)
Yes, much quicker than air drying. I used to use my blow dryer but found one at Petsmart on a little stand...it's great to have my hands free to comb/brush and hold the dogs.

LOL....I think the PEK may be a heat activated product, because the results are so much better with the blow drying.

jencar98 06-12-2010 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BonBon (Post 3160704)
Wow, I never thought of that! I usually blow dry my pups in the winter but often let them air dry in the summer. I've always wondered why they look so much better for longer after being blow dried. Thanks Jen!! :)
Yep...it made sense when I thought about it though...and I've blow dried all the dogs after every bath since Cher told me that.

Also, I know many yorkies tend to have wavy hair near their tails, blow drying helps keep that hair nice and straight.

dewitte 06-12-2010 10:32 AM
I joinds you 2 photos of my Yorkshire DAYA, to wash with the purifying shampoo + PEK + H270 + Essensuals contitioner!!!
She(It) is hardly dry!!
But today knots are of new there!!
Nathalie

http://moe.mabul.org/up/moe/2010/06/...025330d2rx.jpg
http://moe.mabul.org/up/moe/2010/06/...02758rgshx.jpg

dewitte 06-12-2010 10:38 AM
I joinds you 2 photos of my Yorkshire DAYA, to wash with the purifying shampoo + PEK + H270 + Essensuals contitioner!!!
She(It) is hardly dry!!
But today knots are of new there!!
Nathalie
url=http://mabul.org/]http://moe.mabul.org/up/moe/2010/06/...02758rgshx.jpg[/url]

http://moe.mabul.org/up/moe/2010/06/...036130gaj5.jpg

http://moe.mabul.org/up/moe/2010/06/...03824jdvg0.jpg

animal1 06-12-2010 05:05 PM
The results are in!!! It is the most FABULOUS product I have ever used. I love it!! Their hair is just like liquid silk. WOW. Just beautiful. Villette thank you for starting this thread and Jen thank you for all your help in letting us all know what a fabulous product it is and all the tips. I will try and post pictures tomorrow.

Sweetlips6 06-24-2010 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BonBon (Post 3160704)
Wow, I never thought of that! I usually blow dry my pups in the winter but often let them air dry in the summer. I've always wondered why they look so much better for longer after being blow dried. Thanks Jen!! :)
ALso, hair has a cuticle (think layered fish scales) when magnified. Blow drying smooths the hair cuticle, making a smooth surface, that reflects light. Therefore it shines.

Ever notice how shiny your hair is when your stylist blows it dry?

Bonnie has a cottony coat. I would love to get some of this conditioner. She has a summer "Joey" cut now, but it would be great when I start growing her hair out again.

jencar98 06-24-2010 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by animal1 (Post 3161086)
The results are in!!! It is the most FABULOUS product I have ever used. I love it!! Their hair is just like liquid silk. WOW. Just beautiful. Villette thank you for starting this thread and Jen thank you for all your help in letting us all know what a fabulous product it is and all the tips. I will try and post pictures tomorrow.

LOL....liquid silk - that's the phrase I use to describe Reno's long coat, the way it slips through my fingers after his bath and drying. I'm thrilled you love the product, and you're certainly welcome. :)

jencar98 06-24-2010 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sweetlips6 (Post 3175294)
ALso, hair has a cuticle (think layered fish scales) when magnified. Blow drying smooths the hair cuticle, making a smooth surface, that reflects light. Therefore it shines.

Ever notice how shiny your hair is when your stylist blows it dry?

Bonnie has a cottony coat. I would love to get some of this conditioner. She has a summer "Joey" cut now, but it would be great when I start growing her hair out again.
You'll have to try at least the PEK....it makes growing out coat and maintaining it so much easier - using these products is the only way I can keep Reno in long coat, he's outside and playing like a boy all of the time, w/o the PEK he would be a tangled up ball of fur:D

BonBon 06-27-2010 09:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetlips6 (Post 3175294)
ALso, hair has a cuticle (think layered fish scales) when magnified. Blow drying smooths the hair cuticle, making a smooth surface, that reflects light. Therefore it shines.

Ever notice how shiny your hair is when your stylist blows it dry?

Bonnie has a cottony coat. I would love to get some of this conditioner. She has a summer "Joey" cut now, but it would be great when I start growing her hair out again.
I am convinced. I will never allow Murphy to air dry again. It's been so hot here the last couple of months that I wasn't blow drying him and his coat was getting to be a mess, even with the PEK. This weekend after his bath I made sure to blow dry him and he is TANGLE FREE and soooo soft and silky. Wow, I never thought blow drying could make this kind of difference. But, I have to give credit to the PEK, too. Before I started using PEK, it didn't matter if I blow dried him or not, he'd start matting and tangling right away and now he stays smooth and silky for days.

jadabug 06-27-2010 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BonBon (Post 3177742)
I am convinced. I will never allow Murphy to air dry again. It's been so hot here the last couple of months that I wasn't blow drying him and his coat was getting to be a mess, even with the PEK. This weekend after his bath I made sure to blow dry him and he is TANGLE FREE and soooo soft and silky. Wow, I never thought blow drying could make this kind of difference. But, I have to give credit to the PEK, too. Before I started using PEK, it didn't matter if I blow dried him or not, he'd start matting and tangling right away and now he stays smooth and silky for days.
I agree, I had always let my two air dry. Since blow drying the last 4 baths, it has made a world of difference. Bogie's coat looks 100% better. The ISB products are def. working wonders and drying him just made it that much better.:)

red98vett 06-27-2010 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by animal1 (Post 3161086)
The results are in!!! It is the most FABULOUS product I have ever used. I love it!! Their hair is just like liquid silk. WOW. Just beautiful. Villette thank you for starting this thread and Jen thank you for all your help in letting us all know what a fabulous product it is and all the tips. I will try and post pictures tomorrow.
:):) Sure thing !! Thanks to Jen I was able to brag - not many products have turned me on over the years - I bathed Chanel last night again and her top hair is just a pretty waterfall today - back with my other stuff - it would look dry or never 'fall' like it does now

I have several new products thanks to some friends here and this is the first time in years I haven't used the CC products

TammyJM 06-27-2010 10:28 AM
I really should try this product on my guys. I have used a few different ones and like them but none seem any better than the next. I would love to find just one that completely WOWS me!

jencar98 07-06-2010 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3177793)
I really should try this product on my guys. I have used a few different ones and like them but none seem any better than the next. I would love to find just one that completely WOWS me!
Tammy, when we meet I'll bring you some of the PEK and shampoo - I do think you'll be Wowed by the results you will see using the PEK.

TammyJM 07-07-2010 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3189228)
Tammy, when we meet I'll bring you some of the PEK and shampoo - I do think you'll be Wowed by the results you will see using the PEK.
:) Thank you Jen!! I have been trying to find one product that works for all of mine so it would be nice if PEK was 'it'.

cj125 07-08-2010 07:22 AM
I wanted to post a picture when I did a review but it's been a long time since I've had to resize them so... I didn't get that done but I did put a couple of Max in my album the other day - just to show his coat.

Here's what I bought and what I think about each:

Purifying Shampoo /Purifying Balm -- comes in an extemely large bottle/jar and considering you only use it once every 6 wks... I'd say buy one and split it with someone

Apple Shampoo/Conditioner -- very nice but comes in small bottles

Pek -- LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THIS!!! If you don't get anything else this should be the one thing that you get (as Jen said) :thumbup::thumbup:

SIL -- nice

When I reorder I'll be getting 2 PEKS and I think I'll try the Essentuals for flyways. I have a microfiber couch that Max loves to rub :D I also think I'll try some other shampoo/condition.

BTW - Mia has a cotton coat and Max has what I'd call a modified. BUT since I've been using this Pek Max's coat has been a dream! The only time I have a problem with it now is when it's dirty. I keep Mia's short so I just wanted her to have healthy skin and more shine - we're well on our way.

Thanks ever so much to Villette and Jen for posting about this stuff. I'm a believer! :D :thumbup::thumbup:

jencar98 07-08-2010 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3191157)
I wanted to post a picture when I did a review but it's been a long time since I've had to resize them so... I didn't get that done but I did put a couple of Max in my album the other day - just to show his coat.

Here's what I bought and what I think about each:

Purifying Shampoo /Purifying Balm -- comes in an extemely large bottle/jar and considering you only use it once every 6 wks... I'd say buy one and split it with someone

Apple Shampoo/Conditioner -- very nice but comes in small bottles

Pek -- LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THIS!!! If you don't get anything else this should be the one thing that you get (as Jen said) :thumbup::thumbup:

SIL -- nice

When I reorder I'll be getting 2 PEKS and I think I'll try the Essentuals for flyways. I have a microfiber couch that Max loves to rub :D I also think I'll try some other shampoo/condition.

BTW - Mia has a cotton coat and Max has what I'd call a modified. BUT since I've been using this Pek Max's coat has been a dream! The only time I have a problem with it now is when it's dirty. I keep Mia's short so I just wanted her to have healthy skin and more shine - we're well on our way.

Thanks ever so much to Villette and Jen for posting about this stuff. I'm a believer! :D :thumbup::thumbup:
Connie, I'm so glad you're pleased with the products. Max's coat looks gorgeous, and Mia's even though short looks very healthy, pretty!

I've loved your review of the products and agree with you. Though, I don't mind the size of the Purifying shampoo with the number of dogs I bathe, it will get used soon enough. But, that's good idea to share, if someone doesn't need the large size.

Isn't that PEK amazing stuff?!?! I knew you would love it!:)

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I'm thrilled you all are liking the ISB products and know your pups are happier too.....the tangle struggle is OVER! :)

BonBon 07-09-2010 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3191157)
I wanted to post a picture when I did a review but it's been a long time since I've had to resize them so... I didn't get that done but I did put a couple of Max in my album the other day - just to show his coat.

Here's what I bought and what I think about each:

Purifying Shampoo /Purifying Balm -- comes in an extemely large bottle/jar and considering you only use it once every 6 wks... I'd say buy one and split it with someone

Apple Shampoo/Conditioner -- very nice but comes in small bottles

Pek -- LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THIS!!! If you don't get anything else this should be the one thing that you get (as Jen said) :thumbup::thumbup:

SIL -- nice

When I reorder I'll be getting 2 PEKS and I think I'll try the Essentuals for flyways. I have a microfiber couch that Max loves to rub :D I also think I'll try some other shampoo/condition.

BTW - Mia has a cotton coat and Max has what I'd call a modified. BUT since I've been using this Pek Max's coat has been a dream! The only time I have a problem with it now is when it's dirty. I keep Mia's short so I just wanted her to have healthy skin and more shine - we're well on our way.

Thanks ever so much to Villette and Jen for posting about this stuff. I'm a believer! :D :thumbup::thumbup:
It's funny to see this now, I was just thinking the exact same thing last night. :D My house will never be without PEK again. In fact, I think I'll just start ordering a gallon at a time so that I can use it on my own hair, too.

chachi 07-09-2010 08:11 AM
Where do you get the Pek at is it online?

tjdmom 07-09-2010 04:15 PM
Ok, I'm getting ready to place my next order and would like some recommendations. First of all, I plan to get more pek. I'm not crazy about the maracuja scent. Although I like the container much better. I found that my pump doesn't work that well and actually broke off and I'm having an awful time trying to get it out now. So anyways, I'm wondering what scent of the PEK is your favorite or do you think works the best? And then I'm still trying to pare down my list. Aside from the PEK, which products are you really pleased with and which are you not so happy with? I have over $200 worth of products and need to get that down to more like $100. :p HELP! :p

jadabug 07-10-2010 02:57 AM
I like the green pek, gloss and besides the pek my favorite out of all the products I use is the mink oil. The H270 spray I can use or do without. I probably won't order it again. I also like the tear free puppy bar soap for washing faces.:)

jencar98 07-10-2010 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 3192571)
Where do you get the Pek at is it online?
You can order from their website, the minimum is $75, but with a med PEK, the Purifying shampoo, and another weekly use shampoo, you should be close enough to the minimum.

Iv San Bernard (USA & Canada), Fine Italian Pet Grooming Products and Equipment

jencar98 07-10-2010 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 3193146)
Ok, I'm getting ready to place my next order and would like some recommendations. First of all, I plan to get more pek. I'm not crazy about the maracuja scent. Although I like the container much better. I found that my pump doesn't work that well and actually broke off and I'm having an awful time trying to get it out now. So anyways, I'm wondering what scent of the PEK is your favorite or do you think works the best? And then I'm still trying to pare down my list. Aside from the PEK, which products are you really pleased with and which are you not so happy with? I have over $200 worth of products and need to get that down to more like $100. :p HELP! :p
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Originally Posted by jadabug (Post 3193510)
I like the green pek, gloss and besides the pek my favorite out of all the products I use is the mink oil. The H270 spray I can use or do without. I probably won't order it again. I also like the tear free puppy bar soap for washing faces.:)

I prefer the original PEK, it's green in color even though on their website it looks like it's in an orange container. I wasn't crazy about the maracuja scent either, but overlooked it because of the great results....lol...I can always spray a little doggie cologne to get a good scent. The green PEK I think is a little thicker, and the scent is, while not great, it is better than the Maracuja.

I also like the Purifying shampoo and the crystal clean bar soap for cleaning around eyes and face, especially on Louis, a silver poodle. But, I'm going to try the tear free puppy bar soap next.

Like Jadabug, I could do without the H270. I compare it to buying a car, just which bells and whistles are important? I might get a slightly better looking coat by using some of the other products like the H270, but since I don't show dogs, I'm happy with the results just from the shampoos, soaps, PEK and mink oil.

jacquelinebabco 07-10-2010 07:07 AM
Just got done with the baths on the yorkies. I absolutely love the pek conditioner. Their hair is so soft and no tangles. By the looks of the amount of posts on these products guess Jen turned us on to a great company. Thanks, once again, Jencar.

cj125 07-10-2010 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jacquelinebabco (Post 3193678)
Just got done with the baths on the yorkies. I absolutely love the pek conditioner. Their hair is so soft and no tangles. By the looks of the amount of posts on these products guess Jen turned us on to a great company. Thanks, once again, Jencar.
Yea Jen - you should be a sales rep for them. :D You've done a wonderful job of putting their product out there. :thumbup:

I always believe that the best PR/advertisement is from actual customers. If it's good - it sells itself. :thumbup::thumbup:

jencar98 07-10-2010 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jacquelinebabco (Post 3193678)
Just got done with the baths on the yorkies. I absolutely love the pek conditioner. Their hair is so soft and no tangles. By the looks of the amount of posts on these products guess Jen turned us on to a great company. Thanks, once again, Jencar.
You're so welcome! I thought others would love it as much but until you actually try it, it is hard to believe something works this well. I've bought many recommended products (by vendors at shows even) only to be disappointed in the results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3193713)
Yea Jen - you should be a sales rep for them. :D You've done a wonderful job of putting their product out there. :thumbup:

I always believe that the best PR/advertisement is from actual customers. If it's good - it sells itself. :thumbup::thumbup:
Thanks - honestly, I just wanted others to enjoy the same results I was getting and if it took me selling the product, I would have. I was never interested in making a profit though, simply wanted to share a good thing:)

You're so right about "word of mouth" advertising. I've always said, I could never sell anything I didn't fully believe in, and the PEK is one thing I could sell all day....if I needed to:D

tjdmom 07-10-2010 04:31 PM
I know what you're saying Jen but seriously... you should be getting a commission! We've all spent a fortune! :p

jadabug 07-10-2010 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tjdmom (Post 3194262)
I know what you're saying Jen but seriously... you should be getting a commission! We've all spent a fortune! :p
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: I agree you should get a commission and we have spent a fortune:eek:;):)

gemy 07-16-2010 06:51 PM
Okay I have to say I'm sold on the ISB products. This is Razz's fourth wash with the green apple shampoo and conditioner. I've used the PEK sparingly on him as he really doesnt tangle so much. Because Razz is going away I really conditioned his coat, and used some mink oil as well. I blew him dry and literally couldn't believe my eyes. His coat had amazing body, and shine. I swear I said to hubby since Sunday did his frigging coat grow? He said hon I don't know but he looks amazing.

The SIL I'm not sure I'm using quite right will have to experiment some more.

What's more I needed to oil much less before I wrapped his coat - not too sure why.

Jencar thanks so much for bringing this supplier to my attention.

My breeder and her partner are also turned onto ISB as well, so they will be getting many more Canadian orders as the word spreads.

By the way I also had some problems with the pumps one didn't work at all, and one broke off

terlis 07-16-2010 10:43 PM
Anyone know where in Canada I can get this. Their website to call or e-mail. I sent e-mail 2 days ago but am yet to hear from them.

gemy 07-17-2010 11:40 AM
They usually are pretty good about getting back to purchasers. Why not send another email.....I think also you will need to set up and account with them to see pricing in Cdn$ not too sure though of that


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