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lrichardsonrnc 03-11-2010 11:36 AM
Hi, I am so sorry that it has taken me to get back to the "tangle teezer" inquiry. I though my order didn't go through so I reordered and have too many "tangle teezer's". So I will sell 3 of them. I will charge $15 each and no shipping. PM me if you are interested. I learned about them before I got my first Yorkie this year and thought "how hard could grooming be on a very small dog?" Honestly, the brushing was ruining my relationship with Priscilla because I was hurting her when trying to get every single tangle out (OCD). Then I remembered the lady who shows dogs told me about "TT". I would stand on my head and stack greased BB's to keep from hurting my baby one more second. Yes, it's a hassle to order from England (pesky euro's) but I was desparate. Now it's as if the tangles are not even there. The brush glides through them. Why-O-why didn't somebody tell me about this gadget when I was causing hair loss on my silky, long haired daughters? I am so ashamed. But live and learn. I give Prissy a treat at the end of drying and brushing and now she just stands there instead of running off like a spotted zebra.

jencar98 03-11-2010 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Juliealfies mum (Post 3034709)
Jen I was trying to find this product in the UK . Do you know if they sell over here??
Julie, I know it's an Italian company and they do have a website.....but of course it's in Italian:D and I can't read it and I didn't see an English language converter on their home page.

If you can't find it there, let me know. I'll be happy to order whatever you want and forward it on. I would definitely recommend the PEK and now I'm thinking the Purifying shampoo. If you want to get the PEK now and wait til I try the shampoo, we can do that too.

jencar98 03-11-2010 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lrichardsonrnc (Post 3036077)
Hi, I am so sorry that it has taken me to get back to the "tangle teezer" inquiry. I though my order didn't go through so I reordered and have too many "tangle teezer's". So I will sell 3 of them. I will charge $15 each and no shipping. PM me if you are interested. I learned about them before I got my first Yorkie this year and thought "how hard could grooming be on a very small dog?" Honestly, the brushing was ruining my relationship with Priscilla because I was hurting her when trying to get every single tangle out (OCD). Then I remembered the lady who shows dogs told me about "TT". I would stand on my head and stack greased BB's to keep from hurting my baby one more second. Yes, it's a hassle to order from England (pesky euro's) but I was desparate. Now it's as if the tangles are not even there. The brush glides through them. Why-O-why didn't somebody tell me about this gadget when I was causing hair loss on my silky, long haired daughters? I am so ashamed. But live and learn. I give Prissy a treat at the end of drying and brushing and now she just stands there instead of running off like a spotted zebra.
I have one of these Tangle Teezer brushes and do love it. Julie (Juliealfies mum) suggested them to us a few months back. $15 is a good price for anyone wanting one of them.

Gennies 03-11-2010 04:05 PM
Is someone on YT going to sell it?
 
I don't want to offend but I didn't read all the posts as this thread got really long. Is someone on YT going to start selling this? I'd love to order some, but not $75 worth to order from the company. Thanks!!

jencar98 03-11-2010 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gennies (Post 3036484)
I don't want to offend but I didn't read all the posts as this thread got really long. Is someone on YT going to start selling this? I'd love to order some, but not $75 worth to order from the company. Thanks!!

Along with the PEK, I would suggest you order the Purifying shampoo (every 6 weeks), and possibly another shampoo for weekly bathing. Those 3 items would be near $75 if not more, depending upon the sizes and type of shampoo you order.

If you still want to order only the PEK, I can order it for you. But you'll have to pay shipping twice and paypal fees, which would be approx. $15. Just let me know what size, I'll be placing an order next week.

Micah my love 03-11-2010 04:22 PM
tangle teezer
 
This is the website i went to all in english moderngent.com or you can email Tony tonyj@moderngent.com

xxmxaxrxyxx 03-11-2010 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3036508)
Along with the PEK, I would suggest you order the Purifying shampoo (every 6 weeks), and possibly another shampoo for weekly bathing. Those 3 items would be near $75 if not more, depending upon the sizes and type of shampoo you order.

If you still want to order only the PEK, I can order it for you. But you'll have to pay shipping twice and paypal fees, which would be approx. $15. Just let me know what size, I'll be placing an order next week.
you know on paypal that anyone can send you money and if they click on personal no one is charged the fees on paypal...it is free if you use your bank account or paypal balance. hehe

jadabug 03-12-2010 09:05 AM
I am so excited my account is active now and I just placed my order for the PEK conditioner and PH balance, Green apple shampoo and eye cleaner..I can't wait to get it and try it.

xxmxaxrxyxx 03-12-2010 09:08 AM
is there a way to get a sample of the conditioner? i was on the website yesterday and was about to place an order...but then i thought about it and was like i don't think i can justify spending $75 until I know that the product works...because I have spent so much money on products that ends up just sitting there or getting toss out....

BonBon 03-12-2010 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3035833)
LOL...yes you are set up for quite awhile with that tub o' PEK :D But Bonny, I do think we should try the Purifying shampoo. I'm going to order some and will include a bottle for you if you would like (save on shipping)....we're close enough to each other, I can get it to you with little trouble. It's $23 for the small size...which is what I would order, being that you use it only every 6 weeks....it will last a long time. I probably won't order til next week, so just let me know if you want to try anything before you set up your account.
Jen, what do you think about their eye cleaner? Should I try that, too? If you think it's worth it, will you also order that for me? Thanks!

jencar98 03-12-2010 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by xxmxaxrxyxx (Post 3037378)
is there a way to get a sample of the conditioner? i was on the website yesterday and was about to place an order...but then i thought about it and was like i don't think i can justify spending $75 until I know that the product works...because I have spent so much money on products that ends up just sitting there or getting toss out....
Mary, I'm going to talk to Linda again about the sample sizes. Our last conversations have been more about how to make the product available to everyone here, and I didn't focus on samples then......but, I promise to ask again. If not, I could order you a small size and mail it to you being that you're so close and shipping would be less, I could probably get it for under $20 to you.

Also, thanks for the tip on Paypal fees...that's good to know :)

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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3037382)
Jen, what do you think about their eye cleaner? Should I try that, too? If you think it's worth it, will you also order that for me? Thanks!
After using the PEK and getting the great results, and then reading the testimonials on the site, I'm inclined to trust the products do what is claimed. Do you want me to try it out first....we can always order more?

jencar98 03-12-2010 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jadabug (Post 3037373)
I am so excited my account is active now and I just placed my order for the PEK conditioner and PH balance, Green apple shampoo and eye cleaner..I can't wait to get it and try it.
I'm excited for you....I know you'll love the PEK and will be very interested to hear of your results with all the products you've ordered....be sure to come back and post about it.:)

cj125 03-12-2010 10:07 AM
I checked this site out the other day after reading V's review - and then decided to go back today - WOW I couldn't believe how many products they offer! :eek: Now I'm not sure what to order?

I have Mia who's a THICK cotton coat, it doesn't matt because I keep her coat fairly short, but her coat isn't as shiney as I think it should be.

Max's coat is kinda thin and a mixture. He feels silky the first 3 days after his bath but it gets kinda coarse feeling after that. He also tangles after wearing any clothes.

I do give them both that EicosaDerm that has Omega-3 fatty acids, EPA/DHA, plus vitamin E.

Any suggestions Jen?

jencar98 03-12-2010 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 3037464)
I checked this site out the other day after reading V's review - and then decided to go back today - WOW I couldn't believe how many products they offer! :eek: Now I'm not sure what to order?

I have Mia who's a THICK cotton coat, it doesn't matt because I keep her coat fairly short, but her coat isn't as shiney as I think it should be.

Max's coat is kinda thin and a mixture. He feels silky the first 3 days after his bath but it gets kinda coarse feeling after that. He also tangles after wearing any clothes.

I do give them both that EicosaDerm that has Omega-3 fatty acids, EPA/DHA, plus vitamin E.

Any suggestions Jen?
I know, it can get confusing with all of the products and their different uses. Linda is great to answer specific questions, especially if it's problem coat with possible skin conditions. But right off, I would suggest the Purifying shampoo (for every 6 weeks) and PEK...then another weekly bath shampoo - maybe the green apple? Also, I'm going to try the PH Balance....it revitalizes a coat with sensitive skin....I'm going to try it on my foster girls that have typical puppymill neglected coats. I'm sure I'll use it on my others too, but wanted it to try and improve the fosters coats.

xxmxaxrxyxx 03-12-2010 10:20 AM
well i will wait to see how much a little sample is...lol....

TLC 03-12-2010 02:39 PM
Ok...now I want to get this conditioner too :p

Jen, I read that you and Linda were trying to figure out how to offer it to YT ~ is that true :confused:

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037441)
After using the PEK and getting the great results, and then reading the testimonials on the site, I'm inclined to trust the products do what is claimed. Do you want me to try it out first....we can always order more?
What's the cost? Also, how do you use it? As needed, during baths only, etc. I need a good cleaner that I can use as needed.

jencar98 03-12-2010 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037888)
Ok...now I want to get this conditioner too :p

Jen, I read that you and Linda were trying to figure out how to offer it to YT ~ is that true :confused:

Yes, it's true! Linda is offering wholesale prices for YT members ordering a $75 minimum and don't have a nearby retailer. There are very few retailers so that's not a problem for most here and ordering $75 worth doesn't take too long....usually 3-4 products depending upon which ones and the sizes. Just the 2 shampoos and PEK is around the much.

TLC 03-12-2010 02:48 PM
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:

jencar98 03-12-2010 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3037895)
What's the cost? Also, how do you use it? As needed, during baths only, etc. I need a good cleaner that I can use as needed.

The eye cleaner costs $11 for a 250ml size. I'm sure you could use it on a daily basis, but I'll find out for sure. It doesn't list any directions on the website, just the ingredients chamomile and hamamelis (witch hazel).

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037915)
The eye cleaner costs $11 for a 250ml size. I'm sure you could use it on a daily basis, but I'll find out for sure. It doesn't list any directions on the website, just the ingredients chamomile and hamamelis (witch hazel).
I'm willing to try it for that price. Will you order a bottle for me? :)

BonBon 03-12-2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037907)
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:
These are the ingredients listed on my container:
Water, ceteara alcohol, propylene glycol, cetrimomum chloride, dimethicone, parfum, silk amino acids, citric acid, cI 18050, denatonium benzoate.

jencar98 03-12-2010 03:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TLC (Post 3037907)
For those that have the actual bottle of the PEK Conditioner ~ can you please tell me if Sodium Laureth Sulfate is an ingredient :confused:
I don't see Sodium Laureth Sulfate listed in the ingredients for the PEK Maracuja.

It lists: Aqua (this one always cracks me up, why don't they just say water?) Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, cetrimonium Chloride dimethicone, Parfum, silk amino acids, panthenol, citric acid, cI 19140, Ci 18050, Denatonium Benzoate.

BonBon 03-12-2010 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037932)
I don't see Sodium Laureth Sulfate listed in the ingredients for the PEK Maracuja.

It lists: Aqua (this one always cracks me up, why don't they just say water?) Cetearyl Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, cetrimonium Chloride dimethicone, Parfum, silk amino acids, panthenol, citric acid, cI 19140, Ci 18050, Denatonium Benzoate.
Whoops! I left out panthenol. :p Glad to see I got the other right, though.....those letters just keep getting smaller and smaller....

jencar98 03-12-2010 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bonbon (Post 3037939)
Whoops! I left out panthenol. :p Glad to see I got the other right, though.....those letters just keep getting smaller and smaller....

LOLOL.....tell me about it....you should have seen me here with my glasses on to read the label, and then taking them off to type....going back and forth, changing my misspelled words.....dang spell check isn't very good for chemical type names!

BonBon 03-12-2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jencar98 (Post 3037948)
LOLOL.....tell me about it....you should have seen me here with my glasses on to read the label, and then taking them off to type....going back and forth, changing my misspelled words.....dang spell check isn't very good for chemical type names!
My glasses are at work, so I just kept moving the container closer then farther then squinting then moving it closer again.....glad no one was here to see that. :p

Yorkiedaze 03-12-2010 07:46 PM
I've been doing some checking into these products and the more I read, the more confusing it gets. They should offer classes so you would know exactly what your doing.
It says to use a purifying mask or balsam with the Purifying shampoo. The Purifying shampoo isn't concentrated, so your going to use it quicker than the Green Apple shampoo that you dilute 1 part shampoo to 5 parts water. It's also recommended for the long hair dogs.
It also says Balsams "must always be used after each shampoo". "Otherwise, the sweat gland (sebaceous gland) goes into overproduction and the dog's skin can become greasy, dry and irritated and /or smelly".
These may be wonderful products, but are very new to the states and I think more information is needed for the customer before making a purchase. Maybe the president in sun City, AZ. could send some kind of brochure or something that has all the information needed to make a more informed decision, especially since these products are expensive.

jencar98 03-12-2010 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze (Post 3038330)
I've been doing some checking into these products and the more I read, the more confusing it gets. They should offer classes so you would know exactly what your doing.
It says to use a purifying mask or balsam with the Purifying shampoo. The Purifying shampoo isn't concentrated, so your going to use it quicker than the Green Apple shampoo that you dilute 1 part shampoo to 5 parts water. It's also recommended for the long hair dogs.
It also says Balsams "must always be used after each shampoo". "Otherwise, the sweat gland (sebaceous gland) goes into overproduction and the dog's skin can become greasy, dry and irritated and /or smelly".
These may be wonderful products, but are very new to the states and I think more information is needed for the customer before making a purchase. Maybe the president in sun City, AZ. could send some kind of brochure or something that has all the information needed to make a more informed decision, especially since these products are expensive.
I understand and agree about the confusion with all of the products offered. There are several lines, with some more for "everyday use", others geared more to show people, and then the Therapeutic line for problem skin/coat conditions.

On the product instruction page it does say the Purifying shampoo is concentrated and can be diluted or used full strength for extra detoxifying. And, using Balsam (conditioner) after shampoo is something I already do. The Purifying shampoo should be used about every 6 weeks and the Green Apple can be used for every bath. So really you wouldn't use the Purifying shampoo up before the Green Apple even if you used it full strength.

I'm sure they have literature to mail out, give Linda a call and ask about literature and any questions you have....she's always been great to visit with me and answer any questions I've had.

Gennies 03-13-2010 05:55 AM
Pictures?
 
I have to say $75 is a lot to start out but if it works it's so worth it. Would those of you how have tried this product on your babies mind posting a few photos so I can see how much better it makes the cottony coats look.

I got Bijou the Yorkie Splash and Shine that so many are loving and I got to say I hated it. Her coat was so waxy feeling. I tried it on Barley's silky coat and it was the same results. I don't like the residue feeling on them. So I tried the Redken products that others have said they have used for years and Bijou's coat's much better, but not silky so I'm excited to see photos if anyone has some to post please do. Thank you

katrn 03-13-2010 06:23 AM
To get an account set up do we need to have a company??


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