Has anyone gotten a puppy from Sportsman Kennels in Long Island?

[Sairis2008]

I was searching on google for breeders in new york city and I came across the website for Sportsman kennels and I wanna know if it's good or bad. This is the site link, http://www.sportsmanskennels.com.

[yorkiebaby123]

Hi There!

My friend got her yorkie there several years ago. She wasn't AKC registered, some other kind which i've heard can be shady and she said now that she looks back, that seemed wierd. Her dog is adorable, prettty solid and very sweet. Funny thing is, her dog doesnt know how to bark and her tongue hangs out b/c its so long, but i think she is just as cute as can be! I have looked all over this area and i had to go elsewhere to find a place i was comfortable with. She said the placed seemed fine, but when i asked if she would go back, she said she wasnt sure. Hope that helps a bit!!

[Carrie83]

Way to many breeds!

[jolissa]

Hi I am not sure were they get their puppies from. I agree way too many breeds. If you can't see the parents on the premises I would run the other way. I live on Long Island. I show my yorkies and sometimes breed. I don't know what your looking for BOY OR GIRL. I will be expecting a litter in July. My yorkies are all spoiled rotten like they should be. I also have one that is 1 year old & too small to show, she's a sweetie. She plays high 5 with her paw, which is soooo cute.

[Sairis2008]

Yeah, I don't think i'll get a dog from sportsman kennels then. Jolissa, are you near the LIRR by chance?

[jolissa]

I am about 10 minutes from the Ronkokoma station. I will send you pictures if you would like to see her tommorrow.

[jrsygal37]

PLEASE do not buy from this place. They are either a puppymill or a broker who gets their dogs from mills. Whenever you see so many breeds this is a sure red flag that it isn't good. Check out rescue Petfinder.com: Adopt a pet and help an animal shelter rescue a puppy or kitten. or if you want a puppy go to the for sale forum and investigate some of the better YT breeders. We have quite a few that are good and will be able to help you out. Elaine

[TLC]

HOLY S**T

That place is about 20 minutes from me....I NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS thought there could be some sort of mill or mill importer/broker like that here on Long Island

PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE FROM THERE - As everyone has stated, that's just WAY TOO MANY BREEDS - Very Fishy

[autumn star]

I purchased my first pug from there! (I obviously did not know any better) my second pug was a gift/surprise and he too came from there. My hubby's partner got his Schnauzer from there as well. All three have died from cancer!
Had I known then what I know now of course I never would of bought from them!

[TLC]

Originally Posted by autumn star

I purchased my first pug from there! (I obviously did not know any better) my second pug was a gift/surprise and he too came from there. My hubby's partner got his Schnauzer from there as well. All three have died from cancer!
Had I known then what I know now of course I never would of bought from them!

That's so sad What heart aches

[TLC]

Originally Posted by pollyanna

I purchased a one year old Squaw Creek Kennels bred Maltese from Sportsman's Kennels on May 18, 2008 for a service dog. She came with 3 vet health certificates. In March 2009, I took her to be spayed. Blood work for anesthesia revealed 3 elevated liver enzymes. Bile acid tests were elevated and revealed her liver function is abnormal. These indicate either a portosystemic liver shunt or microvascular shunts, both Congenital Conditions that are undiscoverable until symptomatic, without blood tests for anesthesia, or genetic screening.

Several parties suggested that Pollyanna was sold and returned, partly because the kennel only produced 4 months of vet records for a year of residence, ending in September 2007.

I went out to Sportsmans Kennels on Friday with Pollyanna to ask them to pay the $1800 diagnostic fees and $3000 surgery necessary to save her life if she has a true portosystemic shunt. Helen, the owner, told me I was legally entitled to nothing because of the lemon law that protects the Kennel after 2 weeks. Finally, after 2 hours of discussion, Helen, said she would pay for the portogram and necessary surgery. She reiterated this over and over. She even ran out to my car as I was leaving and assured me that she would "take care of my baby".

On Monday, I called my vet and told him that Sportsmans had repeatedly assured me she would pay for the necessary medical care. He called Helen and she shouted him down and told him that she had reconsidered and would not honor her verbal commitment.

She called me the next night and yelled for 30 minutes. She said her vets said it was "overkill" to treat this dog. She said the dog is too small and will die in surgery. She said she would give me $1300 (She was on sale for half price when I bought her.) for the dog and I could keep her but don't treat her; and a puppy because Pollyanna would have a short life and I could train another dog to be a service dog and then when Pollyanna dies I would not feel bad. I politely asked her if she was insane, that my service dog could be saved if I had the money. She said I was entitled to nothing under the lemon law and that she had made her verbal commitment to me to pay the medical bills without talking to her vets. She said her vets said it was probably just an infection. I told her that her web site claims a 2 year Genetic guarantee and she said that is only the price of the dog. My vet sent all the blood work to her vets by Friday.

On Saturday she called me and told me she had no legal obligation. I reminded her repeatedly that she had made a verbal contract with me to pay the portagram and the surgery if necessary. She said she never said she would do the right thing. "I don't talk like that." She was furious. She said her vets said it could be 100 things and was most likely a bacterial infection. She said I lied when I said the dog was going to die with a shunt and that I committed slander against her. I explained that this is what I am being told. She said, "This all changed because of the accusation you made." I asked her what she meant and she said I accused her of reselling the dog and of knowing the dog was sick when she sold it to me. I told her I did not say that to her. She said, "Well your vet wrote it in the letter."

After insisting that she would not pay, she said she wanted the dog on antibiotics for one week and then wanted the blood work (which was done twice) redone by her vets after antibiotics. She said she wanted the sonogram and portogram done by her vets. I said, by somebody impartial, and she said her vets. I said that was not impartial, and she said I did not trust her. She hung up on me after shouting me down for a long time, but called back almost immediately to say that she did not say she would not pay for the surgery. She was supposed to call on Monday. Today is Friday.

Since my dog is getting worse and since my vet and blood work say she does not have an infection, I decided to borrow the money and have a sonogram done. She accused me of lying and having no proof. Unfortunately, the sonogram (which is only 25% reliable to reveal a shunt but necessary to see if the other organs are normal. The portogram is 100% reliable and more expensive.) showed that Pollyanna has an "extra vessel" which could be a true shunt or a vessel caused by microshunts. A portagram will specify. Her liver is normal size on the right and extra small on the left. My heart is breaking.

Hi there....

This is heart breaking. I 100% believe she DOES have a shunt.

Liver shunt doesn't mean a death sentence. Liver shunt surgery is very successful. It sounds like you have done a lot of research already which is really good. If she will refund you the money, I would take it. Use it for the surgery.

Have you looked into Cornell University Vet School or University of Tenn ??? Both are leaders in Liver Shunt surgery and research and offer VERY reasonable Liver Shunt surgeries. Someone not too long ago said they had LS surgery done at U of Tenn (spay, and ALL tests necessary, and the LS surgery and hospital stay) for approx. $1300

Since Cornell is in NYS, you should check them out as well.

This is NOT an infection. And this place is a Puppymill.

Who is "their" Vet anyway? I live out east and I would LOVE to know which Vet is supporting this horrid place.

I know alot about LS and MVD, so please let me know what else I can help you with????

[TLC]

You can also have your Vet run a Protein C test. This will also give more confirmation that there is indeed a Liver Shunt.

The Protein C test is a blood draw that MUST be overnighted to Cornell University. The results are done at Cornell and usually take a few days.

Results come back in a %

80% and above are either normal liver or MVD (sorry, but it really can not be accurate for normal or MVD - just a guildline).


However....
Below 80% is pretty accurate for Liver Shunt

[rebeccag]

#1 Red flag: when a breeder has more than one breed.
#2 Red flag: KENNEL-can't stand the word...wouldn't want to be associated with it...

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by rebeccag

#1 Red flag: when a breeder has more than one breed.
#2 Red flag: KENNEL-can't stand the word...wouldn't want to be associated with it...

I agree with you on #1, but I don't see anything wrong with the word "kennel." Respectable breeders including YTCA members often have a "kennel" name. It's listed with the American Kennel Club registry. It doesn't mean the dogs live outside.

[rebeccag]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

I agree with you on #1, but I don't see anything wrong with the word "kennel." Respectable breeders including YTCA members often have a "kennel" name. It's listed with the American Kennel Club registry. It doesn't mean the dogs live outside.

I know, but it makes me think of a large scale type puppy mill...I just can't stand the word...lol!