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02-19-2009, 07:30 PM | #16 |
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| Thanks for the info. I manage some apartments and the rules with dogs are 15 lbs and under. She has a Golden Retrevier. I told her the only way she could have him there is if her Doctor would authorize her for whatever health issue she may have. But when I told the boss that, he wasn't too happy with the whole situation since we had issues with a large dog in the past and had to have rules of dogs sizes. I went to a training class and that is what they said, "if someone has a disability you can't deny them". Any other suggestions are appreciated. |
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02-20-2009, 04:14 AM | #17 |
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| there is a law out there that makes it so the people with disabilities cannot be denied if they have a service animal... albeit a store, or airline or even apartments whatever... they cannot deny a person that has a service animal if they have the right documents for having the service animal... for me I had my therapist type up a letter... and she stated that I needed my Gracie for emotional support reasons... and that she was a key role in my recovery. there is no where that says that the service animal has to be a dog or a weight restriction... I would think that your friends golden retriever would be ok albeit she has the right documentation... if you have any other questions that I might be able to help you with dont hesitate to ask!
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02-20-2009, 06:42 AM | #18 |
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| Thanks for the reply. She is not my friend. She was an older working woman whom liked the apartment. I was only asking. Then again, she has not been screened yet. I gave her that idea thinking that "she needed him" from how she talked. |
02-20-2009, 11:03 AM | #19 | |
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I think a lot of times the two are confused, but there is a difference based on the types of "jobs" they perform. I think that laws only [officially] protect the rights of those with service animals, but not neccessarily therapy animals... Last edited by BamaFan121s; 02-20-2009 at 11:06 AM. | |
02-20-2009, 01:16 PM | #20 | |
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02-20-2009, 02:05 PM | #21 | |
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Businesses ARE allowed (legally) to ask what specific tasks the animal is trained to perform, BTW. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 02-20-2009 at 02:08 PM. | |
02-20-2009, 02:27 PM | #22 | |
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Many website that sell service dog 'gear" recognize mental and psychological disabilities. | |
02-20-2009, 03:36 PM | #23 |
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| I did a Yahoo Search on service dogs and came to this site: service-dog.org . Provided is a state-by-state listing of laws regarding service dogs. If you are interested, you will have to scroll down the menu bar on the left side of the page - go to State Laws - and from ther pick your state. The Georgia law has a very specific definition for a Service/Assistance dog. If I am reading the Ga Code correctly, an assistance dog is defined as follows: (a) As used in this Code section, the term: (1) "Assistance dog" means a dog that is or has been trained by a licensed or certified person, organization, or agency to perform physical tasks for a physically challenged person. Assistance dogs include guide or leader dogs that guide individuals who are legally blind; hearing dogs that alert individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing to specific sounds; and service dogs for individuals with disabilities other than blindness or deafness, which are trained to perform a variety of physical tasks, including, but not limited to, pulling a wheelchair, lending balance support, picking up dropped objects, or providing assistance in a medical crisis. I could not find anything in our code that discusses dogs that provide services for "mental disabilities". I am sure that there are provisions, I just can't find them. Hope this helps. |
02-20-2009, 03:38 PM | #24 |
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| Someone mentioned at the beginning of the thread and quoted the ADA but I think it needs to be clarified a bit further. A dog is legally considered a service dog if it provides any form of medical assistance to the owner. These services can be, but are not limited to, guide-dogs, hearing dogs, dogs that provide assistance to a disabled individual (ie. picking things up, carrying items), dogs that detect oncoming seizures or low blood sugar or provide any degree of emotional support. Service dogs do not need to be formally certified and businesses cannot deny access to any individual with a service dog. Businesses can ask what services the dog provides but the handler is legally not required to disclose the nature of their medical conditions. There really isnt an "audit" perse, of this process but if an individual is caught lying than they can be prosecuted for fraud by the ADA. A therapy dog is a totally different. A therapy dog is required to be certified through a formal organization for insurance purposes (the industry standard is $1m in insurance). For some organizations the test is as simple as the CGC with medical equipment, other organizations have much more rigorous testing. A therapy dog usually falls into 2 different categories: emotional therapy and physical therapy. The emotional therapy is intended for other individuals such as patients in hospitals or children in special-needs programs. Physical therapy is an additional tier of certification where the dog is actually used in the physical therapy plan for certain individuals who have had loss of mobility from strokes/MS/or accidents. Therapy dogs are not considered service dogs and the certifying organization usually has a clause in their contract that any handler is caught posing their dog as as a service dog that their certification can be revoked. Wheewh that was a novel! Hope this clears things up! Last edited by Bravo916; 02-20-2009 at 03:39 PM. |
02-20-2009, 03:39 PM | #25 |
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| Just trying to help out. Last edited by Wylie's Mom; 02-20-2009 at 06:25 PM. Reason: Remove quote |
02-20-2009, 03:44 PM | #26 | |
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02-20-2009, 03:51 PM | #27 | |
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After reading the Georgia code, I can't believe that there isn't more. I guess if you wanted "real answers" you would need to talk to an attorney in the state, province, etc. that is going to be the primary home for the dog. Good luck to you in finding the type of help that your dear Auntie needs. | |
02-20-2009, 04:13 PM | #28 | |
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02-20-2009, 04:24 PM | #29 |
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| Thanks Cindy and Bravo....that was the line of info I was looking for and confirms what I suspected.. |
02-20-2009, 06:08 PM | #30 |
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| Thanks for the info, but when I tried to click on a certain portions of the state laws it goes into a program that is blocked (PDF/Adobe). I don't know how to unblock it and have tried. But this woman hasn't filled out the paperwork to be screened anyways, as well as knit-picking on stuff. I am not too worried about it. |
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