YT "Featured"

[Surfie and Tiki]

From what I recall, Admin felt it was more important to help Yorkies find a forever home more so than post count/donating in the "Yorkies For Sale" section. (This was before the "Featured" section came to be.) As far as Featured Yorkies/products, there should be more structured guidelines. I am all for prove yourself on YT first, and then become a "Featured" seller of Yorkies, or product.

Now, as far as the other "For sale" threads go, yes this is a free forum, and in some instances people have made it a free forum for advertising, I do not see the benefit for YT to allow this to continue. I for one will not buy from a non-donating member period, that is my personal preference, nor will I buy from someone with minimal post count. I strongly believe if you want to sell your wares on this forum you need to be part of the community first, and a seller second.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

They are upset with the featured breeders forum because they cannot 'educate" there. We should as breeders edducate our own buyers altho I know some probably don't.

You are right...some don't. And therein lies the problem. From what I have seen, there are many people who don't want questions asked in the non-featured for sale section. If all breeders WERE ethical and doing what is right, there wouldn't be a need for scrutiny and questions. Unfortunately that is not the case and YT is not immune to such instances.

I don't understand why a breeder would get upset because someone asked a question or was interested in more or was confused and asked for clarification...regardless to if that person was considering buying a pup or not. Unless they have something to hide or feel guilty about what they are doing for some reason.

What if someone the likes of Jeff Dane with a similar practice came and posted for sale? Should everyone just sit back and leave it up to him to tell and answer only what he wants to? What about a broker or a miller? What kind of information would THEY be willing to divulge. There are many people
who come here looking for a 1st time pet and don't know what to look for and the warning signs. I can only speak for myself, but I think it would be awful to sit back knowing there is a details that the person selling left out that would put a completely different spin on things. I would feel bad if they got the wool pulled over there eyes because the people did catch these things couldn't point them out.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

that's the kind of comments made by people who haven't read the standards we are held to.

I understand why you are frustrated, seeing as you are a 'Featured Breeder' I went to that section and read the rules and requirements again. I only saw 3 'standards' that you have to account for: 1) $50/yr 2) Have been breeding for a year (so that can be one litter?) 3) Offer a 1 year health guarantee.

Are there other standards you are being required to meet that I am overlooking? I'm just trying to make sure I have a complete understanding of the section/title.

[JESSY_RN2B]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You are right...some don't. And therein lies the problem. From what I have seen, there are many people who don't want questions asked in the non-featured for sale section. If all breeders WERE ethical and doing what is right, there wouldn't be a need for scrutiny and questions. Unfortunately that is not the case and YT is not immune to such instances.

I don't understand why a breeder would get upset because someone asked a question or was interested in more or was confused and asked for clarification...regardless to if that person was considering buying a pup or not. Unless they have something to hide or feel guilty about what they are doing for some reason.

What if someone the likes of Jeff Dane with a similar practice came and posted for sale? Should everyone just sit back and leave it up to him to tell and answer only what he wants to? What about a broker or a miller? What kind of information would THEY be willing to divulge. There are many people
who come here looking for a 1st time pet and don't know what to look for and the warning signs. I can only speak for myself, but I think it would be awful to sit back knowing there is a details that the person selling left out that would put a completely different spin on things. I would feel bad if they got the wool pulled over there eyes because the people did catch these things couldn't point them out.

Excellent post.

Maybe there selling pups shouldn't be allowed at all? That's a quick-fix........no more headaches for admin.

That's not fair, I know. But, not allowing people to educate is not fair either. Now, why in the world would anyone waste their time on here (especially when they don't sell pups on here, and only breed for themselves) be on here?

I believe it's safe to say that because they TRULY love the breed and are all about the breed.

On the other hand, I can see why those that push their pups on ever other post benefit from the featured breeder's section.


Everyone should be entitled to read BOTH sides of everything. No extreme is good.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You are right...some don't. And therein lies the problem. From what I have seen, there are many people who don't want questions asked in the non-featured for sale section. If all breeders WERE ethical and doing what is right, there wouldn't be a need for scrutiny and questions. Unfortunately that is not the case and YT is not immune to such instances.

I don't understand why a breeder would get upset because someone asked a question or was interested in more or was confused and asked for clarification...regardless to if that person was considering buying a pup or not. Unless they have something to hide or feel guilty about what they are doing for some reason.

What if someone the likes of Jeff Dane with a similar practice came and posted for sale? Should everyone just sit back and leave it up to him to tell and answer only what he wants to? What about a broker or a miller? What kind of information would THEY be willing to divulge. There are many people
who come here looking for a 1st time pet and don't know what to look for and the warning signs. I can only speak for myself, but I think it would be awful to sit back knowing there is a details that the person selling left out that would put a completely different spin on things. I would feel bad if they got the wool pulled over there eyes because the people did catch these things couldn't point them out.

I for one would welcome questions, good, bad, in public or in private.....I feel that whoever is asking me the questions cares enough about the dog to make sure it has received the best possible care while in my home.....

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by JESSY_RN2B

Maybe there selling pups shouldn't be allowed at all? That's a quick-fix........no more headaches for admin.

Well the problem there is, how do they draw the line? How could they tell and who are they to say who should and shoudln't be allowed to offer dogs for sale and know they are making the right decision? People who meet in person or on the phone ask questions, it only seems logical that they would be asked here as well and hope that ALL of the information presented and discussed can be used by others to make the best decision possible.

[Sugar's Mom]

I don't understand why a breeder would get upset because someone asked a question or was interested in more or was confused and asked for clarification...regardless to if that person was considering buying a pup or not. Unless they have something to hide or feel guilty about what they are doing for some reason.


Misty, you and I have already agreed to disagree so i will only say to you that I don't mind anyone at all asking me questions about my line or dogs or program or whatever. BUT, I want to be the one to answer those questions. Mary, I will use you for an example and say if someone asks me a direct question, shouldn't I be the one to answer instead of you? if it's a general question to anyone that knows the answer, then sure answer it And jesse, you make some good points too. i find it very strange that a few, well one or two of the same people that seem to post on all these threads send pm's to some of us saying, ' i'd like to ask you a question about breeding but don't want to get bashed on the board by people that think they should be the only ones breeding." Nuff said.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

I don't understand why a breeder would get upset because someone asked a question or was interested in more or was confused and asked for clarification...regardless to if that person was considering buying a pup or not. Unless they have something to hide or feel guilty about what they are doing for some reason.


Misty, you and I have already agreed to disagree so i will only say to you that I don't mind anyone at all asking me questions about my line or dogs or program or whatever. BUT, I want to be the one to answer those questions. And jesse, you make some good points too. i find it very strange that a few, well one or two of the same people that seem to post on all these threads send pm's to some of us saying, ' i'd like to ask you a question about breeding but don't want to get bashed on the board by people that think they should be the only ones breeding." Nuff said.

Then let them PM you privately.....what's the deal......I have plenty of people PMing me privately for all kinds of questions. Never for questions on purchasing a dog for me, since I don't advertise and no one knows whether or not I have a litter available (which I usually don't).

But, if someone did want to ask someone else about my dogs, I feel that it would be in their right to do so......they're going to do it anyway, whether you're on a featured list or not.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Misty, you and I have already agreed to disagree so i will only say to you that I don't mind anyone at all asking me questions about my line or dogs or program or whatever. BUT, I want to be the one to answer those questions. Mary, I will use you for an example and say if someone asks me a direct question, shouldn't I be the one to answer instead of you? if it's a general question to anyone that knows the answer, then sure answer it And jesse, you make some good points too. i find it very strange that a few, well one or two of the same people that seem to post on all these threads send pm's to some of us saying, ' i'd like to ask you a question about breeding but don't want to get bashed on the board by people that think they should be the only ones breeding." Nuff said.

Please don't get upset. I only asked YOU because you ARE a featured breeder and rightfully seem very proud to have that distinction. Anytime someone seems to have an opinion or question regarding the featured sections, it seems like people get upset if they are answered or addressed by anyone but the Featured members, yet no one is willing to give a strait forward answer. But I'd be greatful for any input from anyone...featured or not. These questions just NOW came to mind for me. I don't see where anything I said was rude? I understand if you don't feel inclined to answer, but I would still like to know the answers if there is anyone else who knows?

If anyone feels uncomfortable asking a question on this forum for whatever reason, it is certainly their right to ask whomever by PM...but mentioning that (which seems to be a trend lately) seems like an effort to get people to refrain from posting.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Then let them PM you privately.....what's the deal......I have plenty of people PMing me privately for all kinds of questions. Never for questions on purchasing a dog for me, since I don't advertise and no one knows whether or not I have a litter available (which I usually don't).

But, if someone did want to ask someone else about my dogs, I feel that it would be in their right to do so......they're going to do it anyway, whether you're on a featured list or not.

that's true and you are a wealth of information for all of us but what could you possibly know about someone else's dog unless it would be something about the line, color or some other general question. I, as you are, am very passionate about what i believe in.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

that's true and you are a wealth of information for all of us but what could you possibly know about someone else's dog unless it would be something about the line, color or some other general question. I, as you are, am very passionate about what i believe in.

I will tell you I do know a lot about pedigrees and most dogs behind them......I've made it my life study....

But, if memory serves me correctly....the featured breeders list was developed because a few took exception to the fact that Admin put a 10 week old limit on puppies before they could be listed on the yorkies for sale and wanted forum. I do remember there was much offense to that rule. Those that took offense wanted a Forum where that rule wouldn't be imposed.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Please don't get upset. I only asked YOU because you ARE a featured breeder and rightfully seem very proud to have that distinction. Anytime someone seems to have an opinion or question regarding the featured sections, it seems like people get upset if they are answered or addressed by anyone but the Featured members, yet no one is willing to give a strait forward answer. But I'd be greatful for any input from anyone...featured or not. These questions just NOW came to mind for me. I don't see where anything I said was rude? I understand if you don't feel inclined to answer, but I would still like to know the answers if there is anyone else who knows?

If anyone feels uncomfortable asking a question on this forum for whatever reason, it is certainly their right to ask whomever by PM...but mentioning that (which seems to be a trend lately) seems like an effort to get people to refrain from posting.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you weren't rude at all and I hope I wasn't. i sure didn't mean to be. if i was you all will have to forgive me.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, you weren't rude at all and I hope I wasn't. i sure didn't mean to be. if i was you all will have to forgive me.

OK, cool. I just thought I hit a nerve and upset you or something. I really just wanted to ask a question...for you or whoever to chime in on...I didn't mean anything by it.